1. I never said evolution explained the origin of life.
what was your purpose of injecting evolution in a thread about God's existence or non-existence?
2. What I meant was, why couldn't an all-knowing being create all life in a static (non-changing) state. Why did he create an imperfect universe where life has to constantly correct itself through natural mechanisms such as natural selection?
How is this an imperfection? as the environment changes we are given the abilities to adapt to it or die, to die is the human condition and it seems purposeful. if life were simply about existence then we'd have been better off as un-evolved cockroaches. what is the point of higher reticular function, and aesthetics, if it were merely about survival?
3. How can you say life IS fine-tuned? It's easy to think that life is fine-tuned when living in a modern society, but if we were living in an unindustrialized country or living 200 or more years ago, we would be struggling to stay alive. In some places, people are lucky just to live into adulthood. The fact is, if life were put anywhere else in the known universe it would die instantly! Even on Earth, most forms of life would die if they were taken out of their ecosystems. Humans would die if were tried to live in the ocean. Oceans make up most of the planet, around 70%. That means that only a tiny portion of this Earth is "fine-tuned" for our survival.
Again, I fail to see your point? what does life expectancy have to do with existence or non existence of God? Death was decreed upon us and from a theological perspective we are immortal beings, whose existence isn't bound by a number of years no matter how long or short in this life!
Also, you completely ignored me when I said that 99% of all organisms have gone extinct. That is a fact. How can you say that the creator is all-knowing if 99% of his creations have gone extinct? Unless you claim that he wanted them to go extinct.
Again, what is your point? what does all knowing have to do with what lives and what dies?
if you constantly beg to have a theological explanation then don't set your scene excluding God and scriptures..
what you consider being remiss is in fact one of God's signs
Allah (swt) continues to direct changes that we perceive as natural processes and the atheistic evolutionist interprets as naturalistic evolution. Surah 29:19-20 Do they not see how Allah originates creation then repeats its process? Surely it is easy for Allah. Say to them: "Travel through the earth and see how Allah originates the creation, then creates the later creation.”
Surat Al Ana’am, verse #59 Says “and He Has the keys of the unseen, none knows it but He, and He Knows what on the land and in the sea, not a leaf falls but He Knows about it, and not a grain in the darkness (depth) of the earth nor any thing wet or dry but in a very comprehensive book (record)”.
so I have no reason to believe that just simply because something is extinct, that God neglected it, or didn't know about it. You need to re-visit that and elucidate your meaning.. We are not immortal as far as earthly life is concerned!
Everything fulfills its very specific purpose and expires.
4. You didn't even respond to my question about extraterrestrial life. Which I find to be a very interesting topic. If there is intelligent life else where in the universe, did your god send prophets to them?
If God created other creatures then we have no reason to assume that he didn't send them their own messengers-- I wonder why you keep asking theologically specific questions when you have stated that you have no desire for that from the get go?
here is the Islamic stance:
It is part of the justice of Allaah that He does not punish any people until He has first sent a warning to them and unless there is evidence against them. Allaah does not treat anybody unfairly. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “… And We never punish until We have sent a Messenger (to give warning).” [al-Israa’ 17:15].
In his tafseer (commentary) on this aayah, Ibn Katheer (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: “These words, ‘…And We never punish until We have sent a Messenger (to give warning)’ tell us of the justice of Allaah, may He be exalted, and that He does not punish anyone until after He has established evidence against him by sending a Messenger to him. This is like the aayat (interpretation of the meaning): ‘… Every time a group is cast therein [into Hell], its keeper will ask, “Did no warner come to you?” They will say, “Yes indeed; a warner did come to us, but we belied him and said: ‘Allaah never sent down anything (of revelation), you are only in great error.’”’ [al-Mulk 67:8] and: ‘And those who disbelieved will be driven to Hell in groups, till, when they reach it, the gates thereof will be opened (suddenly like a prison at the arrival of its prisoners). And its keepers will say, “Did not the Messengers come to you from yourselves, - reciting to you the Verses of your Lord, and warning you of the Meeting of this Day of yours?” They will say: “Yes, but the Word of torment has been justified against the disbelievers!”’ [al-Zumar 39:71]…”
A person who has never heard of Islam or the Prophet SAWS (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), and who has never heard the message in its correct and true form, will not be punished by Allaah if he dies in a state of kufr (disbelief). If it were asked what his fate will be, the answer will be that Allaah will test him on the Day of Resurrection: if he obeys, he will enter Paradise and if he disobeys he will enter Hell. The evidence (daleel) for this is the hadeeth of al-Aswad ibn Saree’, who reported that the Prophet of Allaah SAWS (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “There are four (who will protest) to Allaah on the Day of Resurrection: the deaf man who never heard anything, the insane man, the very old man, and the man who died during the fatrah (the interval between the time of ‘Eesaa (Jesus, upon whom be peace) and the time of Muhammad SAWS (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)). The deaf man will say, ‘O Lord, Islam came but I never heard anything.’ The insane man will say, ‘O Lord, Islam came but the children ran after me and threw stones at me.’ The very old man will say, ‘O Lord, Islam came but I did not understand anything.’ The man who died during the fatrah will say, ‘O Lord, no Messenger from You came to me.’ He will accept their promises of obedience, then word will be sent to them to enter the Fire. By the One in Whose hand is the soul of Muhammad, if they enter it, it will be cool and safe for them.”
According to another report, he said: “Whoever enters it, it will be cool and safe for him, and whoever does not enter it will be dragged to it.” (The hadeeth was reported by Imaam Ahmad and Ibn Hibbaan, and deemed saheeh by al-Albaani, Saheeh al-Jaami’, 881).
Everyone who hears the message of Islam in a sound and correct form (and rejects it), will have evidence aginst him. Whoever dies without having heard the message, or having heard it in a distorted form, then his case is in the hands of Allaah. Allaah knows best about His creation, and He will never treat anyone unfairly. And Allaah is All-Seer of His slaves.
so to answer your question and a point you'd previously raised.. all religions in fact have a bit of truth to them.. just like when you show up to a test and alot of the answers are possibly correct, it is a matter of which is most correct, rather than a mere opposition of one another.. the universal code and basic tenets don't change.. the question is how to cut through all the extraneous crap to get to pure unadulterated monotheism!
all the best
