Questions about the Bible

[Eric H]

Re: The GOD of the corrupted Bible gets drunk?!

Greetings and peace be with you all, and may God bless people of all faiths.

We are all free to do as we choose, which means we are all free to strive to love people of other faiths as we love ourselves.

If we choose to love others as we love ourselves then we should strive to love them for who they are, and we should strive to respect their beliefs even though they are different to our own.

We would bring glory to God in the say we strive to find good in others, but how do we bring glory to God in the way we compete against each other, and bring conflict into religion?

Do we use our truth like a verbal sword to cut our opponent down.

I can almost imagine that if each one of us was having this conversation in the same room and we all had guns, we would end up shooting each other.

Can we pray for each other, can we pray that God will be merciful to each one of us whatever our beliefs may be, can we pray for salvation for each other.

In the spirit of seeking peace on Earth

May Gods blessings be with us all

Eric

 

[*Hana*]

Re: The GOD of the corrupted Bible gets drunk?!

First of all you should understand that it is the Catholics and Anglicans that mainly use the Revised Standard Version, also the manuscripts that supposedly drop that part of Mark, do not really exist. This I have researched. What happened is the page in one of the originals was not salvegable,,this is truth..Also God said in His Word, that His Word will never parish, even after the earth has been destroyed as by fire..

Peace Seven:

You say in one sentence it did not really exist. How do you know? And if one page was not salvageable then the word wasn't preserved. You have to remember you don't have anything from the original revelations and the manuscripts that are available don't say anything about the ascension. So where did that come from? Don't forget, it was 50+ biblical scholars, working together to correct the errors and additions in the bible that made that correction. You have to ask yourself, "If they are still making corrections in the bible, how much has been changed and how much is left to be corrected?" You also have to realize, they are using the oldest manuscripts, so they are not just correcting english translations here, they are changing words completely. For example, the word most used to describe Mary, the mother of Jesus, pbuh, is Virgin....the word virgin is not in the oldest manuscripts and you may be surprised to learn that the word "begotten" is not there either.

Regardless of which denomination uses what version, they are all authorized Christian Bibles. One is no more sacred than the other. Even the Catholic Bible with it's 7 extra books, doesn't change the other 66 books found in every other Bible.

You admit there are errors, although you choose to see them as small....yet you say God preserved His word. One statement can be true...but not both.

Peace,
Hana

 

[*Hana*]

Re: The GOD of the corrupted Bible gets drunk?!

Its funny that you say first written, many people forget, that the 5 Books of Moses and the Books of the Prophets were written 2000 to 1500 years before Christ came. Also the New Testament, was written only 20-30 years after Christ's death. Prophecy in the scriptures, is another thing to consider, how did they know 2000-1500 years before Christ, that he would come(true Prophets of God). There are prophecy's in the OT that are hidden about Christ but have also come true. Did you know the chance of just 1 of the 153prophecys of Christ are 1:30000 and for all 1:1, 000,000,000

Peace Seven:

Do you know who wrote the 5 books of Moses? One thing is for sure...it wasn't Moses. The true authors of these books are not known. There's not a biblical or Christian scholar worth his weight that will tell you different. The vast majority are in complete agreement with this. Regardless of what year the words were written, they were written based on stories, hearsay and tradition....not first hand accounts. You are mistaken in your timeline about the OT. The oldest book of the OT was written approximately 80 years after Jesus,pbuh, was taken up, and the rest later. Absolutely nothing was written in the lifetime of Jesus, pbuh. And the OT books were not authored by the disciples of Jesus, pbuh. Again, these books were written on hearsay, folklore and tradition. Can you explain why John is so vastly different from the 4 synoptics? Can you explain how Isaiah 37 and 2 Kings 19 are identical word for word. Strangely, they have been attributed to two different authors, centuries apart, who the Christians claim have been inspired by God?

It is obvious that the writers of the synoptics (meaning one-eyed), were not writing from first hand experience, but what they did share was a common source for their writing, a shared document.

What exactly are "hidden prophecies"? You mean AFTER an event, someone found something in the bible to say "look, a prophecy!!" People in all faiths do that at one time or another. I can make my trip to the store sound like it was a prophecy in any holy book if I really wanted to. There are also prophecies about Prophet Muhammed, pbuh, in the bible....and these are not hidden, so why do you reject those?

You keep referring to the oldest manuscripts, yet you fail to accept that these are not the originals. No biblical or Christian scholar would tell you the originals exist. They don't.

Peace,
Hana

 

[*Hana*]

Re: The GOD of the corrupted Bible gets drunk?!

...small amout of mistranslations. But these are also in the Quran that was translated in other languages. So I don't find this a good arguement..Considering all the mistranslations are known about.

Peace Seven:

The argument is that we accept that there could be problems with language translations, that is not the problem. You see, some words cannot be exactly translated from one language to another. The perfect example is the word "God". The word God in arabic is Allah. However, in Arabic this word cannot be altered to become plural, like gods, or gender specific like goddess, or added to other words like godfather, etc. The word Allah stands alone. The closest to the english language is God. Ask any coptic Christian whose history goes back to the life of Jesus, pbuh, and ask what he calls the creator. He will tell you 100% of the time, it is Allah. And if you check the Bible translated for them, the word in the Bible is Allah.

However, the difference is, we have the original compilation exactly as it was revealed to Prophet Muhammed, pbuh. So any question about translation errors are easy to find....we go to the original source. I do it all the time. I don't speak arabic, so when I read something I don't understand, I ask an arabic speaking person to explain it from the arabic words. You don't have that opportunity because even if you found someone that spoke aramaic, you don't have the original revelation to go back to.

Allah, swt, ensured the preservation of the Qur'an and that's been done. The way it was revealed, recited, written and memorized over 1400 years ago is EXACTLY the way it is today. The word Qur'an means recite, a miracle in itself. why? Because in every minute of every day somewhere in the world the word of Allah, swt, is being recited. With the 5 daily prayers compulsary for every Muslim, when one area is finished reciting for fajr prayer, another part of the world is starting with zuhr and that is no sooner complete when another begins Asr prayers, etc.

How many people do you know that can and have memorized the entire bible? Honestly, I don't know of one and have never heard of one, however, the Qur'an was memorized by hundreds at the time it was revealed and today thousands have done the same thing, ranging in ages from 5 to 90.

Allah, swt, has most certainly kept His word when He said it would be preserved and protected.

Peace,
Hana

 

[sevenxtrust]

Re: The GOD of the corrupted Bible gets drunk?!

Peace Seven:

The argument is that we accept that there could be problems with language translations, that is not the problem. You see, some words cannot be exactly translated from one language to another. The perfect example is the word "God". The word God in arabic is Allah. However, in Arabic this word cannot be altered to become plural, like gods, or gender specific like goddess, or added to other words like godfather, etc. The word Allah stands alone. The closest to the english language is God. Ask any coptic Christian whose history goes back to the life of Jesus, pbuh, and ask what he calls the creator. He will tell you 100% of the time, it is Allah. And if you check the Bible translated for them, the word in the Bible is Allah.

However, the difference is, we have the original compilation exactly as it was revealed to Prophet Muhammed, pbuh. So any question about translation errors are easy to find....we go to the original source. I do it all the time. I don't speak arabic, so when I read something I don't understand, I ask an arabic speaking person to explain it from the arabic words. You don't have that opportunity because even if you found someone that spoke aramaic, you don't have the original revelation to go back to.

Allah, swt, ensured the preservation of the Qur'an and that's been done. The way it was revealed, recited, written and memorized over 1400 years ago is EXACTLY the way it is today. The word Qur'an means recite, a miracle in itself. why? Because in every minute of every day somewhere in the world the word of Allah, swt, is being recited. With the 5 daily prayers compulsary for every Muslim, when one area is finished reciting for fajr prayer, another part of the world is starting with zuhr and that is no sooner complete when another begins Asr prayers, etc.

How many people do you know that can and have memorized the entire bible? Honestly, I don't know of one and have never heard of one, however, the Qur'an was memorized by hundreds at the time it was revealed and today thousands have done the same thing, ranging in ages from 5 to 90.

Allah, swt, has most certainly kept His word when He said it would be preserved and protected.

Peace,
Hana

Have you forgotten so soon of the Dead Sea Scrolls, dating back to 2000 years before Christ's comming.

 

[sevenxtrust]

Re: The GOD of the corrupted Bible gets drunk?!

A full copy of the Book of Isaiah was discovered at Qumran.

Even though the two copies of Isaiah discovered in Qumran Cave 1 near the Dead Sea in 1947 were a thousand years earlier than the oldest dated manuscript previously known (A.D. 980), they proved to be word for word identical with our standard Hebrew Bible in more than 95 percent of the text.

The 5 percent of variation consisted chiefly of obvious slips of the pen and variations in spelling."

 

[sevenxtrust]

Re: The GOD of the corrupted Bible gets drunk?!

In fact, in these scrolls discovered at Qumran in 1947, we have Old Testament manuscripts that date about a thousand years earlier (150 B.C.) than the other Old Testament manuscripts then in our possession (which dated to A.D. 900).

The significant thing is that when one compares the two sets of manuscripts, it is clear that they are essentially the same, with very few changes.

 

[sevenxtrust]

Re: The GOD of the corrupted Bible gets drunk?!

In fact, in these scrolls discovered at Qumran in 1947, we have Old Testament manuscripts that date about a thousand years earlier (150 B.C.) than the other Old Testament manuscripts then in our possession (which dated to A.D. 900).

The significant thing is that when one compares the two sets of manuscripts, it is clear that they are essentially the same, with very few changes.

The 5 percent of variation consisted chiefly of obvious slips of the pen and variations in spelling."


From manuscript discoveries like the Dead Sea Scrolls, Christians have undeniable evidence that today's Old Testament Scripture, for all practical purposes, is exactly the same as it was when originally inspired by God and recorded in the Bible.

Combine this with the massive amount of manuscript evidence we have for the New Testament, and it is clear that the Christian Bible is a trustworthy and reliable book.

The Dead Sea Scrolls prove that the copyists of biblical manuscripts took great care in going about their work.

 

[*Hana*]

Re: The GOD of the corrupted Bible gets drunk?!

Have you forgotten so soon of the Dead Sea Scrolls, dating back to 2000 years before Christ's comming.

Actually, no I haven't. It just so happens that I am studying the DDS right now and have been for the past year or so.

What makes you think they go back 2000 years BEFORE Jesus, pbuh? They go back, approximately, 150-300 (300 maximum, the majority are approx. 100-150 years), before, and so far, the "newer" ones are 100 years AFTER Jesus, pbuh. As of today, NOTHING was found that was written during His lifetime.

You have to understand that the DDS were not found in neat little packages in these caves. The scientists that work so diligently to decipher them are working with minute fragments in many cases and try desperately to put them together like a puzzle. Where the scrolls have been completely destroyed through insects, mold, etc., the give their best educated guesses as to what was missing. Oftentimes, these best guesses are replaced with better best guesses.

So far, what I have studied speaks more of the way of life and tradition of those days. There is very little that talks about deep religious beliefs, etc. However, it does confirm much of what Muslims practice today. The belief in ONE God, performing ablution before prayer, prostrating during prayer, etc.

Let me give you an example of what these people are working with. When you see sqared brackets, like this [ ] it means those words were completely missing from the original DDS. If it is written like [Hana], it means the word is a guess. Here is a small sample of a piece of translated text:

[...] under[standing...] [...] to You there to do [...] [...] the God of Isreal [who] creates together (or for the Yahad) [...] [...Mos]es [called] to all Isreal when they saw [...] [...when]

As you can see, so far there is a lot of educated guesses going on. Maybe if they ever finish putting all the puzzles together they can come up with something more concrete....but don't count on it. The DDS were an amazing and invaluable find, but they don't "prove" anything. Not yet anyway. They do give us a great insight to the way of life in those days though. I would recommend the book The Dead Sea Scrolls by Michael Wise, Martin Abegg JR and Edward Cook. It gives a wonderful translation, but also provides full detail on the tedious work involved in the effort to translate the scrolls with accuracy.

Peace,
Hana

 

[sevenxtrust]

Re: The GOD of the corrupted Bible gets drunk?!

Actually, no I haven't. It just so happens that I am studying the DDS right now and have been for the past year or so.

What makes you think they go back 2000 years BEFORE Jesus, pbuh? They go back, approximately, 150-300 (300 maximum, the majority are approx. 100-150 years), before, and so far, the "newer" ones are 100 years AFTER Jesus, pbuh. As of today, NOTHING was found that was written during His lifetime.

You have to understand that the DDS were not found in neat little packages in these caves. The scientists that work so diligently to decipher them are working with minute fragments in many cases and try desperately to put them together like a puzzle. Where the scrolls have been completely destroyed through insects, mold, etc., the give their best educated guesses as to what was missing. Oftentimes, these best guesses are replaced with better best guesses.

So far, what I have studied speaks more of the way of life and tradition of those days. There is very little that talks about deep religious beliefs, etc. However, it does confirm much of what Muslims practice today. The belief in ONE God, performing ablution before prayer, prostrating during prayer, etc.

Let me give you an example of what these people are working with. When you see sqared brackets, like this [ ] it means those words were completely missing from the original DDS. If it is written like [Hana], it means the word is a guess. Here is a small sample of a piece of translated text:

[...] under[standing...] [...] to You there to do [...] [...] the God of Isreal [who] creates together (or for the Yahad) [...] [...Mos]es [called] to all Isreal when they saw [...] [...when]

As you can see, so far there is a lot of educated guesses going on. Maybe if they ever finish putting all the puzzles together they can come up with something more concrete....but don't count on it. The DDS were an amazing and invaluable find, but they don't "prove" anything. Not yet anyway. They do give us a great insight to the way of life in those days though. I would recommend the book The Dead Sea Scrolls by Michael Wise, Martin Abegg JR and Edward Cook. It gives a wonderful translation, but also provides full detail on the tedious work involved in the effort to translate the scrolls with accuracy.

Peace,
Hana

I guess what I mean is the originals, like when they were first written. Sorry for me not articulating so well. The main point is they were written before the Messiah came, regardless of the newer ones. They are the same scriptures. Just the newer ones are newer copies of the old. The Word needs to be preserved. Thats why God used people to copy his word. Do you know how much care they put into re-copying..I mean they counted every letter for one,,to make sure they were accurate..let along other things.

 

[*Hana*]

Re: The GOD of the corrupted Bible gets drunk?!

A full copy of the Book of Isaiah was discovered at Qumran.

Even though the two copies of Isaiah discovered in Qumran Cave 1 near the Dead Sea in 1947 were a thousand years earlier than the oldest dated manuscript previously known (A.D. 980), they proved to be word for word identical with our standard Hebrew Bible in more than 95 percent of the text.

The 5 percent of variation consisted chiefly of obvious slips of the pen and variations in spelling."

Peace Seven:

I don't think this is considered a full copy (just one example):

["a rod will grow from] Jesse's [stock], a sprout [will bloom] from his ro[ots]; upon him wi[ll rest] the sp[irit of] [the LORD: a spirit of wisd]om and insight, a spirit of good coun[sel and strength], a spirit of true know[ledge] [and reverence for the LORD, he will delight in reverence for] the LORD [He will not judge only] by what [his eyes] see, [he will not decide only what his ears hear;] but he will rule [the weak by justice and give decisions] [in integrity to the humble of the land. He will punish the land with the mace of his words, by his lips' breath alone] [he will slay the wicked. 'Justice will be the sash around] his waist. 'Tr[uth' the sash around his hips']

So, let's see what they actually have from this verse when you remove the best guesses:

Jesse's, a sprout from his ro; upon him wi the sp om and insight, a spirit of good coun, a spirit of true know the LORD by what see, but he will rule his waist. 'Tr

Remember the [ ] means the text was completely missing and these are guesses which have been substitued for better guesses on occassion. So, no, you don't have the full book of Isaiah.

Peace,
Hana

ps, any spelling errors are mine...it's hard to type like that.

 

[sevenxtrust]

Re: The GOD of the corrupted Bible gets drunk?!

Peace Seven:

I don't think this is considered a full copy (just one example):

["a rod will grow from] Jesse's [stock], a sprout [will bloom] from his ro[ots]; upon him wi[ll rest] the sp[irit of] [the LORD: a spirit of wisd]om and insight, a spirit of good coun[sel and strength], a spirit of true know[ledge] [and reverence for the LORD, he will delight in reverence for] the LORD [He will not judge only] by what [his eyes] see, [he will not decide only what his ears hear;] but he will rule [the weak by justice and give decisions] [in integrity to the humble of the land. He will punish the land with the mace of his words, by his lips' breath alone] [he will slay the wicked. 'Justice will be the sash around] his waist. 'Tr[uth' the sash around his hips']

So, let's see what they actually have from this verse when you remove the best guesses:

Jesse's, a sprout from his ro; upon him wi the sp om and insight, a spirit of good coun, a spirit of true know the LORD by what see, but he will rule his waist. 'Tr

Remember the [ ] means the text was completely missing and these are guesses which have been substitued for better guesses on occassion. So, no, you don't have the full book of Isaiah.

Peace,
Hana

ps, any spelling errors are mine...it's hard to type like that.

75% of it was found, then with the other manuscripts of Isaih they filled in the rest of the puzzle. Go to this link..http://www.ao.net/~fmoeller/qumdir.htm

 

[sevenxtrust]

Re: The GOD of the corrupted Bible gets drunk?!

Peace Seven:

I don't think this is considered a full copy (just one example):

["a rod will grow from] Jesse's [stock], a sprout [will bloom] from his ro[ots]; upon him wi[ll rest] the sp[irit of] [the LORD: a spirit of wisd]om and insight, a spirit of good coun[sel and strength], a spirit of true know[ledge] [and reverence for the LORD, he will delight in reverence for] the LORD [He will not judge only] by what [his eyes] see, [he will not decide only what his ears hear;] but he will rule [the weak by justice and give decisions] [in integrity to the humble of the land. He will punish the land with the mace of his words, by his lips' breath alone] [he will slay the wicked. 'Justice will be the sash around] his waist. 'Tr[uth' the sash around his hips']

So, let's see what they actually have from this verse when you remove the best guesses:

Jesse's, a sprout from his ro; upon him wi the sp om and insight, a spirit of good coun, a spirit of true know the LORD by what see, but he will rule his waist. 'Tr

Remember the [ ] means the text was completely missing and these are guesses which have been substitued for better guesses on occassion. So, no, you don't have the full book of Isaiah.

Peace,
Hana

ps, any spelling errors are mine...it's hard to type like that.

In the Qumran caves there were 19 Books of Isaiah found. Hence one consisted of 75% of its entirety. But with all the 19 Books of Isaiah, we then can make from them the full book of Isaiah.

 

[*Hana*]

Re: The GOD of the corrupted Bible gets drunk?!

In fact, in these scrolls discovered at Qumran in 1947, we have Old Testament manuscripts that date about a thousand years earlier (150 B.C.) than the other Old Testament manuscripts then in our possession (which dated to A.D. 900).

The significant thing is that when one compares the two sets of manuscripts, it is clear that they are essentially the same, with very few changes.

Peace Seven:

Actually, I think you should go to unbiased sites, books, etc., and read about the site of Qumran and the writers of those scrolls. I could type it all here myself, but quite frankly, the post would be TOOOOOOOOO long and too boring for most. It wasn't until 1991 that these scrolls were made public, and when they were....eeek, some very different ideas imerged, including the timeline and writers of these scrolls.

Please take my advice and go to non-christian, non-muslim sites to find your information. To see the truth in anything you have to use unbiased sources. Biased sites will only tell you what they want want you to believe.

Peace,
Hana

 

[sevenxtrust]

Re: The GOD of the corrupted Bible gets drunk?!

Peace Seven:

Actually, I think you should go to unbiased sites, books, etc., and read about the site of Qumran and the writers of those scrolls. I could type it all here myself, but quite frankly, the post would be TOOOOOOOOO long and too boring for most. It wasn't until 1991 that these scrolls were made public, and when they were....eeek, some very different ideas imerged, including the timeline and writers of these scrolls.

Please take my advice and go to non-christian, non-muslim sites to find your information. To see the truth in anything you have to use unbiased sources. Biased sites will only tell you what they want want you to believe.

Peace,
Hana

The writers of the scrolls are of a Jewish sect,,secondly,, the site I referred you too is not Christian,,thirdly its not about ideas but truth..

 

[*Hana*]

Re: The GOD of the corrupted Bible gets drunk?!

75% of it was found, then with the other manuscripts of Isaih they filled in the rest of the puzzle. Go to this link..http://www.ao.net/~fmoeller/qumdir.htm

Peace Seven:

The reference books I have come directly from those who are doing the translating and they have explained clearly how they try to fit the pieces together. By the way, they happen to be christian, but they do not let their faith influence their findings.

As I said, none of them were found intact and they use guesses, from other sources, from the length of the gap, etc. But, these guesses have also changed when new documents are pieced together.

Now with the information they possess as new developments arise, they don't even know who wrote them, where they originated, and very few of the earlier writings mention any historical figure by name. Keep in mind, most of the DDS talks about the way of life and community and life/laws inside a religious organization.

There is still SO much to be learned about the DDS and so much that will never be known, so taking the handwriting of unknown scribes from unknown sources is not proof of anything.

The whole DDS topic is very indepth and to have a complete understanding one really has to read a lot. When a very knowledgeable Muslim brother told me that the DDS proves Islam, I didn't take his word for it. I began research, and quite frankly, I can't say it "proves" Islam, but it certainly discusses behaviours more associated with Muslims than present day Christians. As I mentioned before, ablution, prostrating, oneness of God, and one I didn't mention....fasting.

Peace,
Hana

 

[*Hana*]

Re: The GOD of the corrupted Bible gets drunk?!

The writers of the scrolls are of a Jewish sect,,secondly,, the site I referred you too is not Christian,,thirdly its not about ideas but truth..

Peace Seven:

You are missing the point completely here. None of these scrolls were found intact, some that were "mostly" intact, unfortunately, did not offer insight into much except the way of life and laws for those inside religious communities.

And something else you have to understand, none of the DDS can be called 100% truth. Are there factual evidences in them...absolutely, are there questionable "facts"? Definitely. The people escavating these sites and sincerely translating the DDS are looking for artifacts to back what they translate. They are not trying to prove anything, they are looking for facts. This is something they will continue to do long after we meet our maker. When you have people today adding their best, educated guesses (not for deceiving people), they cannot be 100% truth, they are simply guesses, and these guesses have often been changed. There are spaces in text that I already showed you and that is because they couldn't offer a best guess to fill in the blanks. They are, I believe, sincere in their efforts.

Peace,
Hana

 

[sevenxtrust]

Re: The GOD of the corrupted Bible gets drunk?!

Peace Seven:

The reference books I have come directly from those who are doing the translating and they have explained clearly how they try to fit the pieces together. By the way, they happen to be christian, but they do not let their faith influence their findings.

As I said, none of them were found intact and they use guesses, from other sources, from the length of the gap, etc. But, these guesses have also changed when new documents are pieced together.

Now with the information they possess as new developments arise, they don't even know who wrote them, where they originated, and very few of the earlier writings mention any historical figure by name. Keep in mind, most of the DDS talks about the way of life and community and life/laws inside a religious organization.

There is still SO much to be learned about the DDS and so much that will never be known, so taking the handwriting of unknown scribes from unknown sources is not proof of anything.

The whole DDS topic is very indepth and to have a complete understanding one really has to read a lot. When a very knowledgeable Muslim brother told me that the DDS proves Islam, I didn't take his word for it. I began research, and quite frankly, I can't say it "proves" Islam, but it certainly discusses behaviours more associated with Muslims than present day Christians. As I mentioned before, ablution, prostrating, oneness of God, and one I didn't mention....fasting.

Peace,
Hana

Well I do agree with you, I was simply stating that they have found 19 Books of Isaiah, one of which was 75% completed. Also, with the other 18, there was enough to make a completed book of Isaiah. And yes the books found in the cave would be more like Islam..Why..well you live by the Law, just as the Jewish people's do. I believe the Law is the schoolmaster..Do you think that you can follow the Law to a tee,,some can..But there hearts are far from it. So they Sin internally. They make clean the outside of the cup, but the inside is full of dead mans bones.. Also, the reason there are so many anti-christian material in the Dead Sea Scrolls is because the Jews rejected Christ..and were teaching there own interpretation of the scriptures.. But that is not the Jews fault. Satan has blinded their eyes..God has a special plan for the Jewish people..They will be saved.

 

[*Hana*]

Re: The GOD of the corrupted Bible gets drunk?!

The writers of the scrolls are of a Jewish sect,,secondly,, the site I referred you too is not Christian,,thirdly its not about ideas but truth..

Peace Seven:

Yes, they could very well be from a Jewish sect...but if you researched, you will know that they don't know who wrote the scrolls found at Qumran. There is a lot of problems with these scrolls. Starting with the fact that there were not made public until loooong after they were found and many religious leaders offered their own interpretation of them before anyone else saw them. Sadly, these translations have been accepted as factual, when they are not.

Peace,
Hana

 

[sevenxtrust]

Re: The GOD of the corrupted Bible gets drunk?!

Peace Seven:

You are missing the point completely here. None of these scrolls were found intact, some that were "mostly" intact, unfortunately, did not offer insight into much except the way of life and laws for those inside religious communities.

And something else you have to understand, none of the DDS can be called 100% truth. Are there factual evidences in them...absolutely, are there questionable "facts"? Definitely. The people escavating these sites and sincerely translating the DDS are looking for artifacts to back what they translate. They are not trying to prove anything, they are looking for facts. This is something they will continue to do long after we meet our maker. When you have people today adding their best, educated guesses (not for deceiving people), they cannot be 100% truth, they are simply guesses, and these guesses have often been changed. There are spaces in text that I already showed you and that is because they couldn't offer a best guess to fill in the blanks. They are, I believe, sincere in their efforts.

Peace,
Hana

You are basing this clam on only one of the books from the DDS, there were 19 on the Book of Isaiah only..So I question your conclusion. Because you have narrowed it down to a select group. Then how can you excavate Fact from one piece of the puzzle.