Questions directed to atheists and agnostics only

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I'm also impressed that we've managed to go on for 10 pages now asking and answering questions about atheism, when atheism is nothing but a lack of a belief (there is really nothing to say about it).

:)

So to pre-empt any future questions to atheists, I reply that we atheists lack a belief in Gods. And anything else beyond that is going to vary from atheist to atheist. We have no common code. We have no common ideology.
 
What I find funny, is the number of people who will reject the existence of God, when talking to a Christian, Muslim or Jew. But when talking to a Native American fully "buy" into their form of spirituality. Don't they realize that in so doing they are no longer truly atheists?
 
i wasn't refering to the Quran at all in the antibiotic verse ,that proves to me that either you don't read what others write or you don't understand what you read..

and when someone said "How many atheists and agnostics think there is anyting to The Qur'an and Modern Science? "

i replyed "the matter is not what atheists and agnostics think."

because they are not building their thoughts and arguments upon Facts and logic but they mostly build it above theroies and weak assuptions .and you are not the most intelligent people on earth for your thoughts to be unquestionable.

so unfortunatly i came to a conclusion whish is :-

atheists don't have any kind of logic nor scientific arguments...

its like saying " i deny every thing then i am alive "


and finally i hope you accept my opinion
and i ask you to think about it without letting yourself as being a fanatic for your background thoughts even when you know you are wrong ..


and i ask the moderators to close this threat if they see that is okay because i don't think i will be willing to ask athiest or agnostics anything after that..
 
hemoo said:
i replyed "the matter is not what atheists and agnostics think."

because they are not building their thoughts and arguments upon Facts and logic but they mostly build it above theroies and weak assuptions
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How would you define facts and logic? Would somethings inclusion in a reliable Hadith or the Quran be sufficiant to be classified as fact or logical?
 
so unfortunatly i came to a conclusion whish is :-

atheists don't have any kind of logic nor scientific arguments...
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Which means your conclusion is totally flawed.
 
hemoo said:
i have more questions :

what stops you from harming any one else ?? ]
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That there is no reason to go around harming people, that I would not do to anyone something that I would not do to me.

what stop you from stealing or killing others ? ][/QUOTE]

Ditto above.

is it the rules of law in your countries that make you don't do bad thing ?]][/QUOTE]

Nope,It's my own ethics. although some bad things I do, such as not paying my car tax for a few weeks, I dont feel too bad about. I rationalise this by the state of the roads. Why should I give them 100% of their money if they dont give me 100% of my road?

what if you live on an island and there is no laws ,what will motivate you to not oppress any one else ?][/QUOTE]

What would I gain from that? Would i want someone to do that to me?

EDIT : and what if you can do whatever you want to do even if it hurts others and you are sure that you can get away with it , so what will stop you from doing all that you desire even if it is wrong ?[/QUOTE]

Same answer. I just dont need to fear shirts of pitch in endless succession to kepp me from going postal.
 
Grace Seeker said:
What I find funny, is the number of people who will reject the existence of God, when talking to a Christian, Muslim or Jew. But when talking to a Native American fully "buy" into their form of spirituality. Don't they realize that in so doing they are no longer truly atheists?
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Depends on what you mean by "buy into" and their "spirituality".

Do you mean ancestor worship? Animal worship? Or do you just mean feeling communion with nature?

Many native american cultures are very respectful of nature (the wild) and in tune with it. Many atheists find this refreshing. It is a stark contrast to the judeochristian idea that God created all of the rest of the creatures on earth to serve man - that nature is subordinate to man and there to be exploited rather than equal to and joined with man.

I admire a lot abour various native american outlooks and beliefs. I don't share in ancestor worship, but I sure do love to take my canoe out into the wild, without another human being within miles, just me and the wild. That's "spiritual" in a sense. But it isn't hocus pocus gods and faeries spiritual.
 
My goodness. Where did the nice polite discussion disappear to.

Come on, guys. Disagreements are to be expected. Take pot-shots at one another is not.

Where are all the values and ethics people were talking about a couple of pages ago? I'm not seeing them in our treatment of one another anymore.

(Note: not aimed at you're last post, Pygoscelis. I think you must have posted it while I was typing this one.)


Btw, "THE judeochristian idea that God created all of the rest of the creatures on earth to serve man" probably ought to be re-wrod to read "A judeochristian idea..." I say that because my judeochristian ethic is that mankind has the responsibility to be a steward of the earth, not it's exploiter.
 
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Let us keep this thread peacefull. Keep the discussions to the topic and not the poster.
 
Sup Folks,

To all fellow LI Athiests and agnostics is belief in God something you believed in since childhoodand lost through out some point in your life? How did your parents or friends influence your belief (are they athiests or agnostics, the majority of them :O )?


Regards
 

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