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It is important to remember our limitations when it comes to in-depth issues about Islam. It is unwise to get into a debate over a matter which requires much knowledge and understanding of the religion, as this is something for those who are learned. As lay people, we are not qualified to evaulate different evidences and come to a well-informed conclusion, and this is why threads about such matters are closed to stop people speaking without knowledge and being only further confused.

There are many sites and people of knowledge out there which will handle more in-depth questions and aspects of Islam, so please feel free to utilise them.

I see what your saying but we wouldn't even be having this discussion if there wasn't a problem with the way most people are being treated.
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We try our best to treat everyone with respect. If you feel you have been wronged, please mention it to me and I will look into the matter for you, Insha'Allaah :).

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No mod enjoys deleting posts. That is the most difficult part of being a mod. Our life would be much easier if we did not have to make the decision of deleting a post or thread.

Quite often a seemingly innocent remark is deleted. However that is usually because a thread has gone "OFF TOPIC" and there may be an entire page of posts that are related to that "New Topic" They will all be deleted in an attempt to bring the thread back to it's original topic. sometimes the poster does feel they gave a legitimate reply to a comment. They may have, except the comment they replied to was Off Topic of the original thread.

Closing a thread is not a negative thing. The closure is done to protect the integrity of the original topic. The thread can still be read and seen by all members. The action is usually taken because the thread has exhausted all expected debates. When that happens the posts turn to hate, arguments, other subjects and nonsense. You usually will not see those posts on the closed threads as they are often deleted before the thread is closed.

Personal comments to the posters would be nice. I believe most if not all mods do try to do that. But, some days it is not possible. We are human and we have our limitations as to how much we can do at a time. We are in different time zones around the world, there are times when anyone of us may be the only mod on line for several hours at a time. Believe it or not Mods do stop to sleep sometimes.
 
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I feel the Bro's pain, its hurts when the people put in the time and effort to ask questions to educate themselves or benefit the people on the forum then you suddenley get that **** e-mail about post being deleted. Indeed the fact that the reason for deleting them could be for something "off -topic" (when in fact it was on topic and one question can lead to another) it gets deleted....

The moderator doesn't even give a second thought about the effort or intention of the person making or trying to make a contribution to the thread. at the very least at keep the post open it in another thread instead of wasting their efforts?

May Allah(SWT) guide us towards having the Adab of Mohammad(SAW)
 
Wa Alaykum Assalaam,

You are right brother, it would be frustrating if much time and effort was spent on a post, and we apologise for those instances. Sometimes a deleted off-topic discussion is one that we feel is best unresponded to and avoided, perhaps because ill-feelings have been created for example or the posts are based around an offensive post that was deleted.

For those off-topic discussions which are useful and deserve their own thread, we do sometimes create a new thread for them or merge them with existing threads on the same topic.
 
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I feel the Bro's pain, its hurts when the people put in the time and effort to ask questions to educate themselves or benefit the people on the forum then you suddenley get that **** e-mail about post being deleted. Indeed the fact that the reason for deleting them could be for something "off -topic" (when in fact it was on topic and one question can lead to another) it gets deleted....

The moderator doesn't even give a second thought about the effort or intention of the person making or trying to make a contribution to the thread. at the very least at keep the post open it in another thread instead of wasting their efforts?

May Allah(SWT) guide us towards having the Adab of Mohammad(SAW)
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If you read through a thread it is usually very easy to see when it is going offtopic. If you have something you would like to say about the "new" topic then open another thread about it. But letting a thread go off topic isn't helpful. There have been many threads that I have replied to that have gone off topic and my reply to the original post is ignored because it isn't about the off topic posts. How is that fair? I don't like my efforts being wasted either.

I am a mod on another forum and I can tell you all that it isn't as much fun as it looks like. Before I became a mod there everyone loved me. Now I have the responsiblity of making sure things are the way they are supposed to be. Suddenly I am the evil mod that goes and deletes and edits peoples posts. I don't want to be that person. But I was asked to help and so I do. If you haven't been there then you don't know how it is.
 
In The Name of Allah, The Most Gracious, The Most Merciful

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I think going off topic is part of human nature. or maybe just part of me.
how about the mods relax about the off topic posts. sometimes they are important.

wasalam
-SI-
 
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I think going off topic is part of human nature. or maybe just part of me.
how about the mods relax about the off topic posts. sometimes they are important.
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It does sometimes happen, but I believe in most cases the off-topic posts are not important. It is usually a private discussion that should be held in pm, or people arguing with each other, or brothers and sisters freemixing or everyone indulging in an idle topic - we must remember the Islamic principle of speaking a good word or remaining silent, and if there is nothing beneficial to add to a topic then there is no need to unnecessarily have a conversation with another member as though in a chat room. Posts may remain behind long after a person leaves.
 
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If you read through a thread it is usually very easy to see when it is going offtopic. If you have something you would like to say about the "new" topic then open another thread about it. But letting a thread go off topic isn't helpful. There have been many threads that I have replied to that have gone off topic and my reply to the original post is ignored because it isn't about the off topic posts. How is that fair? I don't like my efforts being wasted either.

I am a mod on another forum and I can tell you all that it isn't as much fun as it looks like. Before I became a mod there everyone loved me. Now I have the responsiblity of making sure things are the way they are supposed to be. Suddenly I am the evil mod that goes and deletes and edits peoples posts. I don't want to be that person. But I was asked to help and so I do. If you haven't been there then you don't know how it is.
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I appreciate that if it goes off topic the focus on the topic is lost, all im saying is dont delete it and put it in the trash, have respect for the persons time and efforts, put it in another thread for them or suggest they open one up if you as an Mod can't be bothered.

May Allah(SWT) guide us towards the Adab of the Mohammad(SAW)
 
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I appreciate that if it goes off topic the focus on the topic is lost, all im saying is dont delete it and put it in the trash, have respect for the persons time and efforts, put it in another thread for them or suggest they open one up if you as an Mod can't be bothered.

May Allah(SWT) guide us towards the Adab of the Mohammad(SAW)
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That would be very good, if it were always possible. Sadly the best of situations do not always arise.

My situation is probably the best life for a mod. I am retired and seldom leave home. I have no real material responsibilities and no set sleep hours. But, the rest of the mods do have real lives to live, they have family cares, work and/or school. they also need set sleeping hours.

Even with my total lack of an outside life, I find it very difficult to keep up with the forum at times. I can only imagine the difficulties the other mods face.

It seems like it would be a simple thing to just move a post and start a new thread, in theory it should only take a few seconds. However, it entails reading through an entire thread to see what needs to be moved together, during that time posts are being reported, new threads and posts are waiting approval, links on the pages need to be checked for validity. Of course when you really get bogged down a drove of trolls will show up and begin trashing the boards. In the mean time you get side tracked with what you where trying to do to keep from having to delete a thread and you find yourself swamped. Now, when I really get wrapped up and tied up, that will be when one of my Grandkids will come running in to want some attention. Sorry, I do brake for the Grandkids. (Hmmm, I do have a life after all).

I do not know of any mod here that does not want the forum to be an educational and enjoyable place for each and every member. Fairness for all is difficult to achieve without some concessions needing to be made by all.
 
the best way to confront a problem with a post being deleted or something is to contact the mod who moderates that section and they will let you know which mod deleted your post, and then you can pm that mod and ask them, starting threads like these make the problem a bigger one then the one it is.

i dont think the mods have a bias againist anyone or anything, they just doing their job :D

also i think that LI could do with a few more mods *cough cough* *wink wink* :D
 
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That would be very good, if it were always possible. Sadly the best of situations do not always arise.

My situation is probably the best life for a mod. I am retired and seldom leave home. I have no real material responsibilities and no set sleep hours. But, the rest of the mods do have real lives to live, they have family cares, work and/or school. they also need set sleeping hours.

Even with my total lack of an outside life, I find it very difficult to keep up with the forum at times. I can only imagine the difficulties the other mods face.

It seems like it would be a simple thing to just move a post and start a new thread, in theory it should only take a few seconds. However, it entails reading through an entire thread to see what needs to be moved together, during that time posts are being reported, new threads and posts are waiting approval, links on the pages need to be checked for validity. Of course when you really get bogged down a drove of trolls will show up and begin trashing the boards. In the mean time you get side tracked with what you where trying to do to keep from having to delete a thread and you find yourself swamped. Now, when I really get wrapped up and tied up, that will be when one of my Grandkids will come running in to want some attention. Sorry, I do brake for the Grandkids. (Hmmm, I do have a life after all).

I do not know of any mod here that does not want the forum to be an educational and enjoyable place for each and every member. Fairness for all is difficult to achieve without some concessions needing to be made by all.
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Indeed sounds like a load of work :( wouldn't wanna take time away from your grandchildren due to deleting threds chacha-Jee so next time :( ... I hear you guys np, the Mods life isn't exactly the high life and it maybe too late for the machlee once its caught :cry:
But not all mods are the same, some just abuse their power :raging: but in your case keep up the good work :thumbs_up
DO NOT GO TO TEH />4R1< 51D3..kk I,ll shut it now, np this post most prob get deleted anyways ;D

^^^ I think I see a machlee :rollseyes
 
Look here, mods stating we shouldn't discuss certain issues - Yet when someone does - but to a salafi point - its never deleted - infact somtimes just locked so it can't be refuted...

This forum is wanting people to follow 1 angled opinions - Listen, this isnt my opinion - its the fact of the forum.
 
Wow, so you found 1 or 2 which hasnt been done, obviously this means its untrue that it happens?.... Infact, recently several incidents have already occured.
 
NoName55 said:
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I Request to be deleted because I am sick and tired of my posts being deleted by kiddie MODs repeatedly as being off topic.

Latest example being deleted from Is it allowed to see the face of a niqaabi?

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P.S. It was NOT off topic (One had to give proof of nikaab being fardh or otherwise, before one could reply to the question and that is what I did).
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It would be nice for bro to stay but if he wants to go then that is his choice.

I see no purpose for this thread to have gone on as long as it has. Enough with the back and forth. :enough!: :enough!: :enough!:
 
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