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To those who are advocating Private communication between complainaint and MOD: It does not work, In private some of them get worse.

To those who claim that only posts of followers of salaf are allowed: It is not true. I made a few few posts pro Imam Ibn Wahhab, first those were moved to sectarian forum then deleted, because I had accused Al-saud family of being killers of Muslims. Also no post of mine is ever pro ahl al-bidah or any sect or madhab.

Biggest problem as I see it is that some staff like to pander to European sounding names. While At least three have very minimum of knowledge for them to be able to judge whether a post is off topic or sectarian or extremist. When one complains in private they become stubborn and never want to admit to having made a mistake.

As I have said in my initial post, the reason my post was detailed was because a simple yes or no answer would have been deleted as per forum rules by one of the educated staff for being a guess or being made without Islamic knowledge or reference. But when one gives detailed answer those of no knowledge who don't understand it, delete it as off topic.

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As I see it:


A person starts a thread discussing Topic “A”

The response is that “A” is due to “B” and so we need to get to the bottom of “B” so we can resolve “A”

The response is that “B” is due to “C” and so “C” is discussed.

The Mods say “C” is going off topic and delete a whole bunch of posts. It becomes quite silly.
 
NoName55,
please reconsider. i've enjoyed your posts and learned from them. i will miss you.
 
The one big problem here is the 'If you aint Salaaafi, you aint right' attitude. If someone has anything at all against a salafi view they'll be deleted.
like this post will be I bet.

even i, as a non-muslim have noticed that this is often the case.
the feeling is that there is complete unanimity in islam and no diversity of opinion on rulings whatsoever.
 
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The one big problem here is the 'If you aint Salaaafi, you aint right' attitude, now I dont mind being corrected but atleat give us the reasons why a post/thread has been deleted, rather then and automated messasge that we shouldn't reply back to. If someone has anything at all against a salafi view they'll be deleted.

sis, there is no need to make divisions, many times i'm hearing from people "he is a salafi, he is a ikwhans", why are people doing this? I understand if you say "he uses the salafi method of dawa or ikwhan method of dawa", but when you say i.e "he is a salafi" , you are automaticly creating groups, and saying that you don';t follow the path of the sahabas. we are all supposed to follow the way of our salafs, cuz they are the sahabas, our ancestors, they are the blessed generation. so quit naming groups, cuz there are no groups, it's just one , and it's called Muslims and they follow the Qur'an and the Sunnah ,if you don't follow them you're not a muslim.(i'm talking here in general) it's simple.

and please everyone have some patience.
 
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i do want to add that in general, i think the mods do a really good job and i appreciate that it is what makes this forum so good. i realize it is time-consuming and not particularly fun to be a mod.
but still...
 
i do want to add that in general, i think the mods do a really good job and i appreciate that it is what makes this forum so good. i realize it is time-consuming and not particularly fun to be a mod.
but still...

it's true, and maybe they make mistakes some times, but still people need to swallow things a little bit more, bc patience is very very much rewared by Allah swt.
When one of the sahabas entered the masjid and the Prophet saws said that he is one of the people of Jannah, Omer r.a was interested what did he do that he earned Jannah, he couldn't see any thing special that he does, so he tried somehow to go to his house for couple of days, and he realized that he doesn't even wake up during the night for tahajjud, and he was wondering so much how did this person win jannah, and when he asked him , he said, before I go to sleep , everyone that has done bad to me, I forgive them (make it hallall to them).

so please be patient :D
 
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Look here, mods stating we shouldn't discuss certain issues - Yet when someone does - but to a salafi point - its never deleted - infact somtimes just locked so it can't be refuted...

This forum is wanting people to follow 1 angled opinions - Listen, this isnt my opinion - its the fact of the forum.

That's rather unusual to not have been closed/deleted. It's a good thread i'm reading through it now. Those are the threads we hear balance of diffrent views, just like a debate where both parties present there arguments and it's upto the audience to make their minds up.
Firstly, let us understand that this forum does not affliate with any sect, group or ideology. We should not use labels to divide us. We are all Muslims, and we follow Islam as it was revealed in the Qur'an by Allah, explained in the Sunnah by the Prophet Muhammad صلّى الله عليه و سلم and as it was understood by the companions and the early Muslims.

What we should also remember is that nobody on this board is a scholar or a shaykh, and that many of us are simply lay people who have little knowledge about Islam. This is why prolonged threads arguing over fatwas and details of Islamic law are closed - because nobody is qualified to answer such questions.



In cases where there are differences of opinion among the scholars, the audience cannot simply "make their own mind up" by posting fatwas and using their own reasoning because we do not have the knowledge to evaluate different evidences and distinguish between the authentic and the weak, and we cannot place our limited understanding over that of the scholars. If we look at the advice of Sheikh Saalih Al-Munajjid (who is quoting other scholars):
If the Muslim has enough knowledge to enable him to compare the views of the scholars based on the evidence and to decide which is more likely to be correct, and he can tell what is more correct and more likely to be correct, then he must do that, because Allaah has commanded us to refer disputed matters to the Qur’aan and Sunnah, as He says (interpretation of the meaning):

“(And) if you differ in anything amongst yourselves, refer it to Allaah and His Messenger, if you believe in Allaah and in the Last Day. That is better and more suitable for final determination” [al-Nisa’ 4:59]

So he should refer the disputed matter to the Qur’aan and Sunnah, and whatever appears to him to be more correct, based on the evidence, is what he should follow, because what is obligatory is to follow the evidence, and he may refer to the words of the scholars to help him understand the evidence.

But if the Muslim does not have sufficient knowledge to enable him to decide which of the scholarly opinions is more likely to be correct, then he should ask the people of knowledge whose knowledge and religious commitment he trusts and then follow the advice or fatwas they give. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“So ask the people of the Reminder if you do not know” [al-Anbiya’ 21:43]

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If their opinions differ, then he should follow the one who is most trustworthy and most knowledgeable. This is like when a person falls sick – may Allaah give us all good health – and he looks for the most trustworthy and knowledgeable doctor so that he can go to him, because he is most likely to give him the right treatment than anyone else. It is more important to be on the safe side in religious matters than in worldly ones.

It is not permissible for the Muslim to follow whatever scholarly opinion suits his desires if it goes against the evidence, or to seek fatwas from those who he thinks are going to be lenient in their fatwas.

Rather he has to be on the safe side when it comes to his religion, and ask the scholars who have the most knowledge and are most fearing of Allaah.
It has also been advised that a person should not speak about things of which he has no knowledge, and if he does not know something, he should say, “Allaah knows best". He should also avoid speaking about topics he is unsure of, and should stick to things he is certain about.

To those who are advocating Private communication between complainaint and MOD: It does not work, In private some of them get worse.
If you have had a bad experience speaking to a staff member in private, then you should contact a more senior member to deal with the situation and I am sure they would be more than willing to resolve any problems. Private communication does work, and it has worked many times before.

As I have said in my initial post, the reason my post was detailed was because a simple yes or no answer would have been deleted as per forum rules by one of the educated staff for being a guess or being made without Islamic knowledge or reference. But when one gives detailed answer those of no knowledge who don't understand it, delete it as off topic.
It is quite possible that staff misjudge posts and make mistakes; nobody is denying that. If ever someone feels they were entitled to post something, all they have to do is ask the staff member to reconsider and explain your view.

We have to also bear in mind that sometimes staff take an action based on multiple reasons, but these cannot be accurately explained in one line in an automated message, as we have already mentioned before.

Last of all, we must all remember that we are Muslims and our goal is to please Allaah (swt). We should try to avoid getting into conflict and causing anything that might divide people or create rifts; we have been taught to be forgiving and understanding towards our brothers and that we should make excuses for them. Let's try to act on this and leave things that will not benefit us Insha'Allaah.

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NoName55,
please reconsider. i've enjoyed your posts and learned from them. i will miss you.
Thank you Brother, and other brothers and Sisters who communicated in private; I have reconsidered and decided, instead, to take a break for few days or weeks

Ma'asalaama
 
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