Revision - Al-Mandhoomatul Bayqooniyyah

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Mawaddah said:
Yes I know who you are talking about. This man was named Ratin Al-Hindi and there is a famous saying about him it goes :
Ratinun al - Hindi..wa Maa Adraaka Man Ratin?
Dajjalun min ad-dajaajilah, idda3aa as-suhbata ba3dannabi bithalaath mi'at sanah.

Ratin al-Hindi, and what do you know of Ratin? Verily he was a Dajjal (liar) amongst the liars, he claimed Companionship of the Prophet after his death by 300 years.

But that definition of the 100 years is extra to me also.
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maasha'Allaah thanks for that i was stressin over that guy's name! jazaaki Allaahu khayraa

wassalamu alaykum
 
Mawaddah said:
Minta Maaf ya Akhi, semalam saya tidak berapa faham soalan kamu ini.....but I did some research, and this is the hadeeth for you :


"سيأتي قوم بعدكم لهم أجر خمسين منكم لأنكم تجدون على الخير أعواناً ولا يجدون على الخير أعوانا "
صحيح الجامع

Rasulullah said to his Sahaabah: " There will come a people after you who will gain the reward of fifty of you, and that is because you find people to help you in the performance of good, and they will not find anyone to help them with the performance of good"

Hadeeth is in Saheeh al-Jaami'



Princess please bring the next Question, we will resume again today Insha'allah!! :)



So sorry again! I did not realize that you wanted a translation to the poem which you asked for :(

So it means :

Love for her came to me when I did not know (true) love
***​
This Love came into my empty heart and stayed within it​
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Oooh...terima kasih ukhti :D But finally I found it in ushulusunnah Imam Ahmad bin Hambal. About the hadith that we can do something which bring more reward than sahabah. The hadith explain that if we can istiqomah in this kinda day which is full with fitnah, and we can be sabr facing it, then we can have 50 or 100 rewards of someone who is saheed. Then sahabah asked:"yaa Rasulullah, do U mean this saheed is from them self or even from us", and then Rasulullah said "whoever sabr and istiqomah in days of fitnah, they will have rewards 50 or 100 rewards of someone who is saheed even from you. Cause if you have problems, then you have me who will protect you, but they have no one to hang on to".....yee kurang lebih begitulah hadithnye...masha Allah, my worse English :-[ :cry: But you can check it your self, its hadith from At Thabrani.
 
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Question: When are we going to start up the bayquuniyah revsion again Ppl?
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Face it gals, you guys are nothing without me. :shade:



:X


Yeah it is pretty disorganised in here. Sorry for taking the thread off track.
 
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Insha'allah in this thread we will be revising the book :
Al-Mandhoomatul Bayqooniyyah along with the explanation of it which is At-Ta'leeqaat al-Athariyyah Ala Al-Mandhoomatul Bayqooniyyah.
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is this book anywhere in English???
 
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You can only get part of it online in english. Flick through the first few pages of this thread to get the link for that.
 
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ook after alot of digging up, i finally figured out where we left off from..

We're currently on:

و كل ما لم يتصل بحال *** اسناده منقطع اوصال

Any interepted chain of transmission, regardless of its circumstances,

Is cut off (Munqati') from continuity.​
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Question is:

What's the definiton for the hadeeth that its Sanad's "Munqati"?

And give an example please. :)
 
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From what I understand, Munqati' can be used in a general sense and a specific sense. In its specific sense it refers to any type of break in the chain, apart from mursal, mu'allaq and mu'dhal. However, in its general sense, it refers to any break in the chain.

This is what I learnt from Yasir Qadhi's talk. I might be wrong though.:-\

Example.... someone in the middle of the chain is missing.:uhwhat
 
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In addition, Munqati is a 'broken' hadeeth, where a link is missing. Imam as-suyuti (rahimullaah) was one of the scholar whom termed munqati to a narration where a reporter says " A man narrated to me..." without stating the authority. The hadeeth by Al-Hakim (the one about the prophecy of fatimah radiallaahu anha having Huseein or to that affect, can't remember its wording) was deemed a munqati and da'eef by Ad-dhahabi (rahimullaah) in his Talkhis Al-Mustadarak for the reason being that Shaddad had never met Umm Al-Fadl while Muhammad Mus'aab was da'eef.

Allaahu'3llaam.
 
Imam as-suyuti (rahimullaah) was one of the scholar whom termed munqati to a narration where a reporter says " A man narrated to me..." without stating the authority.
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Isn't that a form of tadlees, i.e. tadlees-ul-Isaad? (I think)
 
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I found the hadeeth last night!

‘The Prayed one of the ‘Isha prayed in his last days and after finishing it with Tasleem, he stood up and said, “Do you realise (the importance of) this night? Nobody present on the surface of the earth tonight would be living after the completion of one hundred years from this night.”
[Al Bukhari, Vol.1, Book 10, No. 575]

I feel like i'm following in the footsteps of shaykh al-Albaanee... searching for days and days for a single hadeeth.:p
 
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I found the hadeeth last night!

‘The Prayed one of the ‘Isha prayed in his last days and after finishing it with Tasleem, he stood up and said, “Do you realise (the importance of) this night? Nobody present on the surface of the earth tonight would be living after the completion of one hundred years from this night.”
[Al Bukhari, Vol.1, Book 10, No. 575]

I feel like i'm following in the footsteps of shaykh al-Albaanee... searching for days and days for a single hadeeth.:p
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Wa Aleykum Salam Wa Rhametullahi Wa Berekatu,

MashaAllah!!!!!!! I had no clue it was in Bukhari.
 
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...we're going off-topic.

Amirah and Mawaddah... this is a cry for help. Please teach us! Next question please.
 
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Al Muwahhidah said:
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From what I understand, Munqati' can be used in a general sense and a specific sense. In its specific sense it refers to any type of break in the chain, apart from mursal, mu'allaq and mu'dhal. However, in its general sense, it refers to any break in the chain.

This is what I learnt from Yasir Qadhi's talk. I might be wrong though.:-\
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Na'am that's it. :)

Q:

Sheikh Uthaimeen mentions in his sharh (explanation) 4 types of The Munqati', State them all.
 

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