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Mursal

Mu'allaq

Mu'dhal

Mudallas

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Wa alaykum as salaam wa rahmatullaahi wa barakaatuh,

Na'am that's correct.

Sorry for the late reply, I hadnt realised the asnwer was posted up.

Next question:

The definiton of Al-Mu'dhal?
 
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Ahsanti..

Hmm whats the next set of poems..

Wa Mu'adhalus saaqid minuthnaani ** wa maa ataa mudalassun naw'aani.

Al awwalul isqaati lish-shakykhi wa an ** yunqalu 'amman fawqahuu bi'an wa an

wath-thaaniy la yusqiduhu laakin yasif ** awsaafahuu bimaa bihii laa yan'arif


(Imma post that in proper arabic when i get home inshaAllah)

Mu'adhal is that from which two narrators ommited,
And Mudallas has bene narrated in two ways;

The first is an ommision of the shiekh and then
attributing it to one above him saying "according to".. or "that he said.."

The second is by not omiting him but rather by describing
him with charesterics for which is not known
.

So the next question is in the second shatr of the poem & beyond;

What is Mudallas (it's definiton) and state the different types of tadlees?

Give an example.
 
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I think linguistically tadlees means 'hiding the defect of a product from the purchaser'. But in mustalah it's basically when you try to improve the appearance of the hadeeth’s isnaad. There are three types:

Tadlees at-Tajweed/at-Tasweeyah: This is where a later narrator of a hadeeth fails to mention the name of a weak narrator who comes between two reliable narrators, who have both met each other (so there is a chance that they could have reported from each other), which gives the appearance that the chain of narrators are all thiqqah. While in fact, the thiqqah reporter heard it from a weak reporter. So in this way, the chain would be considered Da’eef.

The word 'an is often used between the two reliable narrators, which is similar to 'he quoted".

Tadlees al-Isnaad: This is where the narrator quotes from someone something that he had heard from him indirectly, but uses ambiguous language (like 'an) to hide the fact that he actually heard it indirectly. He might simply say things like: “So and so said…”

Just quickly searching, I found out that there are a number of definitions given by earlier scholars:

--The narrator reports from his teacher [whom he has heard some hadeeth from]

other hadeeth which he has not heard directly from his teacher;

but he has actually heard it through a third party –

and he uses an expression (such as Qaala: he said or ‘An: from)

which gives the impression – without actually saying it –

that he has heard it directly from his teacher.


--The narrator reports from a contemporary scholar [whom he may or may not have met]

Hadeeth which he did not hear from him,

Using an expression (such as Qaala: he said or ‘An: from so-and- so)

Giving the impression – without actually saying it –

That he has actually heard it directly from that contemporary scholar.

[Some scholars view this second definition as al-Mursal al-Khafee]

Tadlees al-shuyookh: This is where the narrator refers to his shaykh (or the person who he heard the hadeeth from) by a name,kunyah, title other than the one the sheikh is commonly known by, e.g. 'Abu Fulaan', yet no one knew him by that kunyah.

Do you want me to give you a real example, or make one up?
 
Wa alaykum as salaam,

I dont think its availabe for purchase in the west. However you can buy it online inshaAllah.

There are a few explanations to the book; One by Sheikh Uthaimeen rahimahullaah, Another by Sheikh Al-Halabee (or Al Hilaalee; thats slipped my mind I'll confirm it later).

For online purchase check this link inshaAllah:

http://alkindi.ideo-cairo.org/controller.php?action=SearchNotice&noticeId=8710&lang=en

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Maybe you mean Syaikh Ali Hasan Al Halaby, he is the most knowledgable student of syaikh Albani in hadith. He studied with syaikh Nashir for almost 25 years
 
Wa alaykum as salaam,

Na'am that's right, JazaakAllaah khair for the confirmation akhee.
 
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can anyone who has studied this book please advice someone who has decided and/or plans to study this book, such as is thier anything that the person who intends to study this book should do/study before/during/after studying this book. how can one revise what they have learnt, and is their an exam when finished this book.
please note that this person does not have a teacher, and intends to study by themselves.
jazakallahu khair.
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can anyone who has studied this book please advice someone who has decided and/or plans to study this book, such as is thier anything that the person who intends to study this book should do/study before/during/after studying this book. how can one revise what they have learnt, and is their an exam when finished this book.
please note that this person does not have a teacher, and intends to study by themselves.
jazakallahu khair.
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It would be best to find a teacher. If you want to teach yourself then you need to know arabic well or have good understanding of nahw, buy either the shar7 Mawaddah mentioned or the shar7 by Uthaymeen, you can find that online (the Uthaymeen's one rahimullaah) so you don't have to buy it considering you only find it in arab countries. You should study it on a regular basis and revise your notes regularly. Memorise the Shi3r. The link Mawaddah gave you has a good site, search for mandhoomat and there will be a link for the shi3r being sung by a little kid and use that as a way to memorise it. May Allaah make it easy for you habibti. Best of of luck!
 
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It would be best to find a teacher. If you want to teach yourself then you need to know arabic well or have good understanding of nahw, buy either the shar7 Mawaddah mentioned or the shar7 by Uthaymeen, you can find that online (the Uthaymeen's one rahimullaah) so you don't have to buy it considering you only find it in arab countries. You should study it on a regular basis and revise your notes regularly. Memorise the Shi3r. The link Mawaddah gave you has a good site, search for mandhoomat and there will be a link for the shi3r being sung by a little kid and use that as a way to memorise it. May Allaah make it easy for you habibti. Best of of luck!

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jazakllahu khair for your reply. your the only one that did. inshallah, reps going your way. i'll see you in about 3 years, when my arabic has picked up dramatically. lol. still learing the basics.
Also, where is this sharah that sis mawaddah mentioned??
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jazakllahu khair for your reply. your the only one that did. inshallah, reps going your way. i'll see you in about 3 years, when my arabic has picked up dramatically. lol. still learing the basics.
Also, where is this sharah that sis mawaddah mentioned??
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Wa eyakee. Mawaddah states the title of the Shar7 as "At-Ta'leeqaat al-Athariyyah Ala Al-Mandhoomatul Bayqooniyyah." Look at her first post, she gives you a link by Uthaymeen rahimullaah. You can use that bi'idnillaah. Aww from what I have seen you know quite a bit of arabic mashallaah so it won't take you 3 years, much less. They study it for a year and a half in Al Fajr Institute in Misr and Cairo institute for science of language takes about a year, discluding the balaqha book you study. So Inshallaah we will see you in a year and a half's time lol.

Oh and the best thing is to stick to one set of books. Don't jump from Nahw waadih to Kitaabul Assassia to Madinah Books, if anything you will learn less and waste alot of money, not to mention time. Kitaabul Assassia is really great because it builds up your vocubalry well and you learn conversations. I don't know about Madinah Books but Nahw waadih makes you a nahw master with less vocub than a 5 year old lol. Just my 2cents. You can PM Amirah and Mawaddah if you have further queries. They have finished studying the bayqooniya Mashallaah.

May Allaah increase you in ilm and taqwa!


 

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