Revision - Al-Mandhoomatul Bayqooniyyah

[Mawaddah]

Masha'allah right

However it's Maqtoo' Fi'li and not Fa'li

Since it seems like you have the book with you Umm Abdullah why dont you post up the next question?

 

[MinAhlilHadeeth]

:salamext:

Erm, I only studied part 1.:-[ And I don't have the book.:X

 

[Mawaddah]

Oh you dont have the book? How'd you study part one then? Is it translated in English and I dont know!! If it is can you pleassssssse tell me I'd appreciate it sooooo much!! :'( :'( :'(

 

[MinAhlilHadeeth]

:salamext:

I got it on the net.

Here.

I can't find the rest though.:-\

 

[Mawaddah]

Jazakillah Khair so much!!!

I really was looking for a translation, but how come there's only one part? :? Is there a book or did someone only translate this?

Anyway so the next Q will be :

وَالمُسْنَدُ المتَّصلُ الإِسنـــــــــادِ مــِن
رَاويهِ حَتى المُصْطفى وَلَمْ يَبنْ

In these verses there is mentioned the word Musnad

What is a Musnad?

And are there more than one meanings to this word?

Baarakallahu Feekum

 

[MinAhlilHadeeth]

:salamext:

I don't know.:? I can only seem to get part 1 online.

http://www.ifol.org/e_library/bayqe.rtf?PHPSESSID=98703354d0e6d8de7611c209beaace9a

 

[Umm Yoosuf]

Anyway so the next Q will be :

وَالمُسْنَدُ المتَّصلُ الإِسنـــــــــادِ مــِن
رَاويهِ حَتى المُصْطفى وَلَمْ يَبنْ

In these verses there is mentioned the word Musnad

What is a Musnad?

Is a connection of chains from each narrator of a hadith reported from someone…until it refers back to the sahabi who reported it directly from the Prophet uninterrupted correct?

And are there more than one meanings to this word?

I dunno :embarrass

 

[amirah_87]

Is a connection of chains from each narrator of a hadith reported from someone…until it refers back to the sahabi who reported it directly from the Prophet uninterrupted correct?

Na'am Al-Mu'minah, that is correct.

And are there more than one meanings to this word?

The word Musnad can also be used for a book that has been compiled by the A'immah/Ulaamah stating the ahaadeeth of every sahaabiy.
like you have Musnad ibnu abiy Shaybah , and Musnad Al-Bazzaar , and Musnad Imaamu Ahmed.. etc

 

[amirah_87]

:arabic6:

 

[amirah_87]

We are currently on:

و ما بسمع كل راو يتصل *** اسناده للمصطفى فالمتصل

The Hadith whose chain of transmission connects to Al-Mustafa

by virtue of hearing of each narrator, is Muttasil

So The question is:

What does Muttasil mean here Or what is the meaning of the hadeeth that is Muttasil?

 

[MinAhlilHadeeth]

:salamext:

Is it hadiths that are ascribed to Rasulullah (SAW) by an unbroken chain of transmitters, and not one of their transmitters is lacking?

 

[Maimunah]

salaam

Muttasil (connected):

A Hadeeth with an unbroken chain traced back to the source. This has two kinds:

a) Muttasil Marfoo:

Chain goes back to Sayyidina Muhammad.

b) Muttasil Mauqooq (restricted):

Chain goes back to a Sahabi (companion).

wasalaam, lol don't ask where i got it from

 

[amirah_87]

Is it hadiths that are ascribed to Rasulullah (SAW) by an unbroken chain of transmitters, and not one of their transmitters is lacking?

MashaAllah, That's correct.

Muttasil (connected):

A Hadeeth with an unbroken chain traced back to the source. This has two kinds:

a) Muttasil Marfoo:

Chain goes back to Sayyidina Muhammad.

b) Muttasil Mauqooq (restricted):

Chain goes back to a Sahabi (companion).

b) Muttasil Mauqoof*

Na'am you're also correct,Jazaakillaah for the extra bit Ruwaydah.


Do any of youse want to put up the next question InshaAllah?

Allah Yubaarik feekumaa!

 

[MinAhlilHadeeth]

:salamext:

I can't, because I don't have the book.:-\

You are our teachers, so go ahead and teach us.

 

[amirah_87]

Ookie dokes! La Ba's Ukhtiy.

Next Question: can you give an example of a hadeeth that Is Muttasil Marfuu' & another that is Muttasil Mauquuf?

ps: have youse clearly understood what muttasil is & the differences between the two?

 

[MinAhlilHadeeth]

:salamext:

Sorry if I get this wrong.:-\

Mauquuf: al-Bukhari reports in his Sahih, in Kitab al-Fara'id (Book of the Laws of Inheritance), that Abu Bakr, Ibn 'Abbas and Ibn al-Zubair said, "The grandfather is (treated like) a father."

Marfuu': 'Alqamah ibn Waqqas al-Laithi, who said: I heard 'Umar b. al- Khattab saying, while on the pulpit, "I heard Allah's Messenger (may Allah bless him and grant him peace) saying: The reward of deeds depends on the intentions, and every person will get the reward according to what he has intended; so whoever emigrated for wordly benefits or for a woman to marry, his emigration was for what he migrated." (Bukhari)

 

[amirah_87]

Na'am, MashaAllah Ahsanti!

so, we'd say: The sayin of Ibn Abbaas is "Atharun Muttasil" and That of the Prophet's "Hadeethun Muttasil!"

Moving on to the next batch:

مسلسل قل ما على وصف اتى **** مثل اما والله انباني الفتى

Musalsal, say it in whatever manner it was described,

For example: "Truly by Allah a young man informed me!...."

Q: What is The defefiniton of "Al-Musalsal"?

 

[MinAhlilHadeeth]

:salamext:

Uniformly-linked hadiths; one in which all the reporters, as well as the Prophet (SAW), use the same mode of transmission. For example, “on the authority of,”, and repeat any other additional statement or remark, or act in a particular manner while narrating the hadeeth.

Right?

 

[amirah_87]

^Na'am exactly..

So it can either be: "Qawliyy" (statement or remark) or Fi'liyy (an act).

So for example:

- Qawliyy: like you've said ; they could all use the same mode "on the authority of.." or they could "swear by Allah"

- &"fi'liy" an action of one of the transmitters whilst transmitting the hadeeth, Like he may smile at the end.. so All the narrators would do the same!! .......... .. ..

cute hunh? :giggling:

Next Question: Give me a Hadeeth that this has occured from the beginning of the sanad till the end?
it could be either qawliyy or fi'liyy.

 

[MinAhlilHadeeth]

^Na'am exactly..

So it can either be: "Qawliyy" (statement or remark) or Fi'liyy (an act).

So for example:

- Qawliyy: like you've said ; they could all use the same mode "on the authority of.." or they could "swear by Allah"

- &"fi'liy" an action of one of the transmitters whilst transmitting the hadeeth, Like he may smile at the end.. so All the narrators would do the same!! .......... .. ..

cute hunh? :giggling:

Next Question: Give me a Hadeeth that this has occured from the beginning of the sanad till the end?
it could be either qawliyy or fi'liyy.

:salamext:

Yeah! I've seen ahadeeth like that. It's really cute. Sahaba would even laugh because the prophet (SAW) laughed! SubhanAllah. Ok i'll look for a hadeeth now. It's probably going to be wrong. But that's ok, you can learn from your mistakes.

I found this:

Al-Hakim said, Ahmad ibn Al-Husain Al-Muqri’ interlocked my fingers and said, Abu `Umar ibn Al-Hasan As-San`ani interlocked my fingers and said, my father interlocked my fingers and said, Ibrahim ibn Abi Yahia interlocked my fingers and said, Safwan Ibn Salim interlocked my fingers and said, Ayub ibn Khalid Al-Ansari interlocked my fingers and said, `Abdullah ibn Rafi` interlocked my fingers and said, Abu Hurairah interlocked my fingers and said, Abul-Qasim (the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him) interlocked my fingers and said, “Allah created the Earth on Saturday…”

I don't know what book it is reported in though.:-\