Revision - Al-Mandhoomatul Bayqooniyyah

[MinAhlilHadeeth]

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What's it about? My arabic is not fluent.

 

[amirah_87]

MashaAllah that's a good link ukhtiy, jazaakillaahu khayr & ahsanti on the answer to the question!

Next question InshaAllah is:

How many types of tadlees are there?

this does'nt come up in the book, but i thought it'd be good to recall it inshaAllah.

 

[amirah_87]

:salamext:

What's it about? My arabic is not fluent.

It's a book by Our shiekh Yahya ibn Ali al-hujuuree, he wrote in it what he

witnessed in Britain when he came here a few of years back..

and yes it's really funny!! you should hear him talk about it! :giggling:

JazaakAllah for the link akhee.

Here's the book in english Shaheedah: http://www.al-ibaanah.com/cms/pdf_files/47.pdf

 

[MinAhlilHadeeth]

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Two types:
Tadlees ul isnaad

Tadleesush-shuyookh

 

[amirah_87]

Na'am sis that's right..

but there's three more types left?

 

[Mawaddah]

HAve ypu read this, it is in arabic. Quite funny.

Mushaahadaatee fee Britaaniyaa

You will have to unzip it.

I was present for this talk of his when he returned to Yemen Hafidhahullah.

I found it quite humorous

And as these type of things are practically Alien to most Yemenies, you should have seen the looks on their faces whilst listening to him.

Hilarious :giggling:

 

[Skillganon]

I was present for this talk of his when he returned to Yemen Hafidhahullah.

I found it quite humorous

And as these type of things are practically Alien to most Yemenies, you should have seen the looks on their faces whilst listening to him.

Hilarious :giggling:

It must be strange for you to hear all this stuff.

Well, for me living here in UK all my life it cracked me up, but at the same time it is soo true.

So it was funny to see the reality from a different perspective when I am so saturated (& sensitised) with it.

I read it in english.

Sorry for disrupting this revision. I accidently posted it in the wrong thread. Wassalam

 

[Umm Yoosuf]

Subhan Allah isn't it amazing how many different perspective of living there is here. Some of the situations are just sad, may Allah guide us.

 

[Khaldun]

May Allah reward sisters Mawwadah and amirah_87 and all the other members participating in learning the Bay
quniyah. I recorded something for you which inshAllah will be beneficial its by Shaykh Saleeh Al-Khazeem, I found it very helpful when memorising it, he recites old skool mashAllah.

http://download.yousendit.com/9B82F7CD05C3C7DB

JazzakAllah Khair to sister Jawhara too!

 

[Nawal89]

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Two types:
Tadlees ul isnaad

Tadleesush-shuyookh

The third type of tadlees is tadlees at taswiyah.
It is when a narrator narrates something from his sheikh, and then he drops a weak narrator between two men whom are both thiqah and met each other. The most known person for doing this type of tadlees is baqiyyah ibnul waleed.
( i hope thats clear:X )

How come we're skipping lessons? Isnt it Mubham after Mu3an3an? tadlees comes later on .

Ok so next question, what is the Mubham, and what are its types?

 

[Skillganon]

The third type of tadlees is tadlees at taswiyah.
It is when a narrator narrates something from his sheikh, and then he drops a weak narrator between two men whom are both thiqah and met each other. The most known person for doing this type of tadlees is baqiyyah ibnul waleed.
( i hope thats clear:X )

How come we're skipping lessons? Isnt it Mubham after Mu3an3an? tadlees comes later on .

Ok so next question, what is the Mubham, and what are its types?

Mubham means obscure.

If one of the transmitter of the Hadith is not named then the Hadith is called "obscure" (mubham).

I don't know the types at the moment.

 

[MinAhlilHadeeth]

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When a transmitter is named vaguely such as rajul (man) or ibn fulan (son of so and so) particularly when a father is not well known?

As to unawareness of the narrator it is, as well, a reason for faulting the Hadeeth since once his name and identity are unknown his state is unknown and whether he is trustworthy or untrustworthy like his saying “a man told me” and “a sheikh informed me”

And this is called Mubham and the Hadeeth of the Mubham is not accepted unless he is a sahaabi; because they are ‘Udool.

If the Mubhim brings words that indicate ‘Adaalah like saying “an upright person informed me” or “a trustworthy person told me” there is a difference of opinion.

That which is more correct is that it is not accepted because he could be upright in the persons view not in reality, but if a well-versed Imam says it, it is accepted.

Right?

Edit:

It's spelt like this right?

مُبْهَمًا

:wasalamex

 

[Mawaddah]

^ Masha'allah correct Umm Abdullah!

:thumbs_up

But we still need the different types now?

As'alullah an yubaarik Feekum

 

[MinAhlilHadeeth]

:salamext:

I think I'll pass... I can't find the answer.:-\

 

[amirah_87]

May Allah reward sisters Mawwadah and amirah_87 and all the other members participating in learning the Bay
quniyah. I recorded something for you which inshAllah will be beneficial its by Shaykh Saleeh Al-Khazeem, I found it very helpful when memorising it, he recites old skool mashAllah.

http://download.yousendit.com/9B82F7CD05C3C7DB

JazzakAllah Khair to sister Jawhara too!

Wa alaykum as salaam,

Ameen, wa JazaakAllaahu khayral jazaa' for the recitation Akhee!

 

[amirah_87]

But we still need the different types now?

1) Mubhamun Jaliyy.

2) Mubhamun Khafiyy..

I'm not too sure on that though, I havent revised so Dalaa dalaaa' if it's wrong tayyib?

but if it's right, next question:

Define the two types above?

 

[MinAhlilHadeeth]

:salamext:

I pass again.:-\

 

[Mawaddah]

1) Mubhamun Jaliyy.

2) Mubhamun Khafiyy..

I'm not too sure on that though, I havent revised so Dalaa dalaaa' if it's wrong tayyib?

but if it's right, next question:

Define the two types above?

Inside Bayqooniyyah it gives two types of Mubhamd :

1) Mubham al-Matn (Text) e.g. Hadeeth of Ibn Abbas : A man said to Rasulullah "Ya Rasullah! Is the Hajj prescribed every year?......"

2) Mubham as-Sanad e.g. Hadeeth of Raafi' bin Khadeej from his Uncle concerning the forbiddance of Mukhaabarah......

So here his uncle is unknown.

That's what you wanted Princess? :?

 

[MinAhlilHadeeth]

:salamext:

Genius! oh: It's so simple, yet so brilliant. Ok i'm just a bit hyper.

Next question.:mmokay:

 

[Mawaddah]

You fine Umm Abdullah?

Okay next Question :

The next two verses are :

وكُلُّ مَا قَلَّتْ رِجَالُه عَـــــــــــــــــــــلا
وَضِدُّهُ ذَاكَ الذِي قدْ نَـــــــــــزَلا

I want to know, what is the Meaning when we say a Particular Hadeeth has an 'Aali (high) chain of narration?

And also, what does it mean when we say that a Hadeeth has a Naazil (lower) chain of narration?