Revision - Al-Mandhoomatul Bayqooniyyah

[amirah_87]

Lol MashaAllah!!

و مرسل منه الصحابي سقط *** و قل غريب ما روى راو فقط

Mursal lacks a companion amonst its narrators

and say: Gharib is that which only a single narrator relates

Q: What is Al-Mursal?

 

[MinAhlilHadeeth]

It is if the Hadeeth has an omission from the end of the chain; then if it is after the the Taabi’ee is Mursal, and this action Irsaal, like the Taabi’ee saying “The messenger of Allah, prayers and peace be upon him said…”

Mursal ahadith are da'eef in principle, since we do not know the person from whom the tabi'ee related from is a sahabi. Although there is some ikhtilaaf on this issue, as there is an opinion that they are saheeh on the condition that the tabi'ee is thiqqa, and also a third opinion which is somewhere in between the two - that it is accepted after certain other conditions are met.

Sorry if I don't make sense, and I messed it all up.:X

 

[amirah_87]

I'm sorry for not postin in earlier.. I thought either Maw or Naw would get to it but... :rollseyes

Anyways that's correct sis.. I'll try my bestest to go into detail about the ikhtilaaf of the mursal as-sahaabah later on..

next question ukhity:

Give an example of a hadeeth that is Mursal, and explain where the ommision occured?

Wal-laah yubaarik feek.

 

[MinAhlilHadeeth]

:salamext:

A real one?

 

[amirah_87]

^ Na'am.

 

[Silver Pearl]

:salamext:

‘No marriage is valid except by the consent of the guardian,’ Al-Khatib gives two Isnad going back to Shu`bah and Sufyaan al-Thauuri. I don’t remember the rest of the Isnad but I know Abu Burdah is the successor whom narrated directly from the prophet (peace and blessing be upon him) hence why it has been credited as being a Mursal?

 

[Maimunah]

If the link between the Successor and the Prophet (may Allah bless him and grant him peace) is missing, the hadith is mursal ("hurried"), e.g. when a Successor says, "The Prophet said ...".

*additional info*
However, if a link anywhere before the Successor (i.e. closer to the traditionist recording the hadith) is missing, the hadith is munqati' ("broken"). This applies even if there is an apparent link, e.g. an isnad seems to be muttasil ("continuous") but one of the reporters is known to have never heard ahadith from his immediate authority, even though he may be his contemporary. The term munqati' is also applied by some scholars to a narration such as where a reporter says, "a man narrated to me ...", without naming this authority.

If the number of consecutive missing reporters in the isnad exceeds one, the isnad is mu'dal ("perplexing"). If the reporter omits the whole isnad and quotes the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, directly (i.e. the link is missing at the beginning, unlike the case with a mursal isnad), the hadith is called mu'allaq ("hanging") - sometimes it is known as balaghah ("to reach"); for example, Imam Malik sometimes says in Al-Muwatta', "It reached me that the Messenger of Allah (may Allah bless him and grant him peace) said ..."

 

[Maimunah]

:salamext:

‘No marriage is valid except by the consent of the guardian,’ Al-Khatib gives two Isnad going back to Shu`bah and Sufyaan al-Thauuri. I don’t remember the rest of the Isnad but I know Abu Burdah is the successor whom narrated directly from the prophet (peace and blessing be upon him) hence why it has been credited as being a Mursal?

i know it.
“No marriage is valid except by the consent of the guardian”; Al-Khatib gives two isnads going back to Shu`bah and Sufyan Ath-Thawri; the remainder of each isnad is: Sufyan Ath-Thawri and Shu`bah --- Abu Ishaq --- Abu Burdah --- the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him). This isnad is mursal because Abu Burdah, a Successor, narrates directly from the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him).

 

[MinAhlilHadeeth]

:salamext:

Ok clever girls, the question was addressed to me.

 

[Maimunah]

:salamext:

Ok clever girls, the question was addressed to me.

sorry:-[ geuss u were too lazy n how can i sit around while u learn elmmg:

 

[Maimunah]

this is my first attempt of joinin this thread *tnx to faiza*, but no one is payin no attention:mmokay:

next quetsion teachers

 

[amirah_87]

MashaAllah, that's correct sisters.. :shade:

Next question: what is the ruling of the "mursal as-sahaabiy"?

 

[MinAhlilHadeeth]

:salamext:

Just want to say... i'm out. I'll still view though inshaAllah. I'll leave it to the dammaaj crew and Ruwaydah!

:wasalamex

 

[amirah_87]

Shaheedahh!! *sobs* why?? why you gonna leave me here all alone with mean maw!! J/K!!

Lol, I really reaally appreciate the contribution that you've put into this thread . We wouldnt have gotten this far without you Ukhtee sa7eee7!! ( and Pearly n' Ruwaydah).

... Knowing us, We'd probably still be on Saheeh, Hasan & Dha'eef!! :blind:

Jazaakillaahu Khayr for all the effort and hardwork you've put in to this.

Much aprectiated, hope you can pop your head in once ina while atleast? *InshaAllah*

Jazaakillaahu Khayral Jazaa' wa As'al-Allaahu an Yazeeduki 'ilman naafi'an. :statisfie

Take Care Sis

 

[Mawaddah]

Umm Abdullah is gone??

Oh why oh why, you've left me alone with *cough*Princess???



But Jazakillah khair for all the effort you've put in the thread, masha'allah, you might just be our next Muhadditha

Princess check out this link I found for the Matn of the Bayqooniyyah, it's by a little boy though :-\

http://www.islamway.com/?iw_s=Lesson&iw_a=view&lesson_id=446

 

[amirah_87]

Princess check out this link I found for the Matn of the Bayqooniyyah, it's by a little boy though :-\

http://www.islamway.com/?iw_s=Lesson&iw_a=view&lesson_id=446

Wa alaykum as salaam,

Jazaakillaah for the link Maw,

& Is it me or is he reciting some of the words differently? Like there's some Tas7eef fee ba'dal kalimaat :?

Like in.. Yushaddu aw yu'all.. he goes yashidda.

and in: Mithl amaa wallaahi an'ba'anil fataa' ... he goes amaa wallaahi anbaanil

Lol @ the birds tweetin in the background? .. Aaah Ya Rabban-naaas! Limah!? :giggling:

it's by a little boy though :-\

Why the sad face? Man kunti tabghayn?

 

[Mawaddah]

Wa alaykum as salaam,

Jazaakillaah for the link Maw,

& Is it me or is he reciting some of the words differently? Like there's some Tas7eef fee ba'dal kalimaat :?

Like in.. Yushaddu aw yu'all.. he goes yashidda.

and in: Mithl amaa wallaahi an'ba'anil fataa' ... he goes amaa wallaahi anbaanil

I guess it's just one of those words where you can play around with the Harakaat innit and it'll not change such a big meaning? :?

Lol @ the birds tweetin in the background? .. Aaah Ya Rabban-naaas! Limah!? :giggling:

Well it's a likkle walad reciting, gotta make it cute

Why the sad face? Man kunti tabghayn?

Inti Daariyah :rollseyes

;D

 

[amirah_87]

I guess it's just one of those words where you can play around with the Harakaat innit and it'll not change such a big meaning? :?

I guess so!!.. but it's messing with my head! cause you see when you memorise something in one way, and then you hear another!! .. it's like.. Ah! :heated:
but anyways...... :X

Inti Daariyah :rollseyes

;D

Aywaaaa..!! :giggling: la'aabah wa7deh!!

BTW You guys found your book yet? :?

If not I might just be forced to answer my own question! :blind:

Khayr InshaAllah.

 

[Mawaddah]

^ Yes I found my book alhamdulillah!

But i'm at work now so I have to sign off soon

INsha'allah later okay?

 

[amirah_87]

Alhamdulillah!

Okay then InshaAllah, La ba's bi'dhaalik..

thing is wallaahi maa anaa daariy ayn haqqanaa! :hiding: :hiding:

wallaah khazaaa'!! ;D