Rukya Training in London - FREE

  • Thread starter Thread starter Scimitar
  • Start date Start date
  • Replies Replies 89
  • Views Views 14K
makes sense..

id hate to be wiping spaghetti of my face all the time.

itd be like somebody spit on ya.
 
Can you provide the name of your teacher? Will he only be teaching in London and surrounding areas? Does he have a network outside of that area? I'd like my husband to connect, we do have family in the UK, but travel isn't feasible right now.
 
Assalamualaikum, bro Scimitar.

Before you join on IB there was a rukya practitioner in forum. From what I know he is also speaker in rukya seminar. Frankly, I remember him and begin to thinking, does he speak in this seminar too?. ... But, he is from Luton.
 
On the subject of wearing a hat:

I heard once - a long time ago - that the Saahireen (magicians) are more easily able to affect with Sihr someone whose head is uncovered. A person who goes around bare-headed is more susceptible to Sihr, and that's the reason why the magicians of old use to wear hats. (Wizard hats? Ever wondered why all wizards need their wizard hat?)

Allaahu A`lam if it's true or not. Possibly.

والسلام
 
ardianto said:
Assalamualaikum, bro Scimitar.

Before you join on IB there was a rukya practitioner in forum. From what I know he is also speaker in rukya seminar. Frankly, I remember him and begin to thinking, does he speak in this seminar too?. ... But, he is from Luton.
Click to expand...

walakum salaam akhi

it may be him, Allahu alam - my teacher is also from Luton :) do you have a link to the ex-members profile?

Scimi
 
Umm♥Layth said:
Can you provide the name of your teacher? Will he only be teaching in London and surrounding areas? Does he have a network outside of that area? I'd like my husband to connect, we do have family in the UK, but travel isn't feasible right now.
Click to expand...

In sha Allah, thru PM :) the course is offered to those of us who have done the hijama course and completed it to qualify and to those who are involved in rukya and wish to learn the authentic method.

I'll give you details thru PM in sha Allah


Scimi
 
Huzaifah ibn Adam said:
On the subject of wearing a hat:

I heard once - a long time ago - that the Saahireen (magicians) are more easily able to affect with Sihr someone whose head is uncovered. A person who goes around bare-headed is more susceptible to Sihr, and that's the reason why the magicians of old use to wear hats. (Wizard hats? Ever wondered why all wizards need their wizard hat?)

Allaahu A`lam if it's true or not. Possibly.

والسلام
Click to expand...


i dont know..really... buuuut.. if i had to guess..

its like a door. you just have to figure out what the door was and keep it closed.

usually its bad habits and compulsions that lead to.. bad habits and compulsions.. or worse.

a clouding of the mind.. a depravity of thought..

the easiest and the hardest way is to dissociate yourself from your own thoughts.

but even then there are worse things out there.. and they will remind you of it.

but you know... its on you...


if you asked anyone who has proper knowledge of islam they would say its not anything you need to know.

its pursuit is not something you need to do.

and even if you consider it patronising.. it is not a viewpoint without merits and respect.

short answers.

a lot of young relatives sit infront of shieks..

and they tell me about people that get absolutely demolished for asking stupid questions..

hmm.. what sort of questions i ask.

be keen but be wary.

...of anyone that offers to extend your rope.
 
Last edited:
ardianto said:
I've sent you PM. :)
Click to expand...

JazakAllahu khair akhi,

I checked the thread you linked and thought "sounds like my teacher" but the part about destroying taweez was not to his method. So I contacted my teacher and he informed me it is not himself :)

Scimi
 
:salam:

I convinced my mom a long time ago to trash an amulet. They had some kufr belief that it can protect. Only Allah can do that. None else.

Wonder whether people understand Tawheed. I mean it is superficial to believe that anything can protect u from evil except Allah :swt:.

Allahu alam
 
My rukya teacher makes a point of cutting them up with scissors and dumping them in the bin.

Allahu Akbar
 
Well, I will be more strict on this taweez non sense and amulets.0

if people were taught Tawheed. They'd understand how foolish and shirky it sounds. No different from mushriks.
 
Totally with you on this bro Serenity.

With all the amulet threads and confusions about the permissibility of taweez etc - I find many here just like to copy past stuff from the web and then lay the claim to authority. Authority from the WEB :D we are a people, who are ignorant.

Which is why courses such as these help to educate us as to what Rukya is, and why taweez do not fall into this category. And with clear explanations, definitions and practical examples of all taweez being shirk.

Some brothers mentioned in the old threads how wearing taweez was permissible because children didn't know how to read or write in those days - well - neither did most adults, but that's NOT THE POINT - the Qur'an is to be RECITED. Anyone can learn to recite - I say one ayaat, you repeat after me - you learn the dua or the ayaat, and you can seek protection for yourself - why does one need taweez? The argument the brothers pushed for the unlearnt wearing taweez is therefore a weak argument and totally impractical today as we can all learn to recite very easily on our mobile phones, computers, ipads and androids etc.

Taweez - Shirk. End of Subject.

Rukya for jinn possession - on point in this thread in sha Allah.

Scimi
 
Thank you for the information.

I do have a question for you. Did you learn what the best thing to do is when a person suspects they have been afflicted with sihr (no jinn possession) but cannot reach a ruqya center? There must be something a person can do for themselves correct? At the very least to lessen the effects until they can reach further help I would think.

I think those who run into this thread will benefit from that kind of information.
 
Last edited:
Scimitar said:
In the UK, we are attempting to learn how to do rukya the authentic and little known way, where reciting ayaat is not even necessary - as per the sunnah of the prophet pbuh when he exorcised jinn from the affected. Of course, reciting ayaat is beneficial and a form of rukya in itself, and we do recite ayaat - but we know it is not necessary and the method relies more on other factors than the recitation itself.



Scimi
Click to expand...

What do you mean? I thought reciting was 90% of what rukya is about? And what other methods are used?
 
Scimitar said:
JazakAllahu khair akhi,

I checked the thread you linked and thought "sounds like my teacher" but the part about destroying taweez was not to his method. So I contacted my teacher and he informed me it is not himself :)

Scimi
Click to expand...
There are more than one rukya practitioner in Luton, I think. :)
 
M.I.A. said:
its just a hat dude.. ......no actually they are magic..9.99 for you!no i read somewhere.. cover your head for fear of your lord..although i really cant remember where...its just a hat dude.
Click to expand...
Seeing the shoe of Hz imam malik rh the jinn left the possessed girl... I think they can't face the people of taqwa
 
How does one eradicate the 'fear' of Jinn when performing Ruqyah or Self-Ruqyah?
 
DriftingCloudz said:
What do you mean? I thought reciting was 90% of what rukya is about? And what other methods are used?
Click to expand...

The Qur'an is rukya - we do not dispute this at all.

The question is about method. There was a clear method which the Prophet Muhammad pbuh utilised in performing rukya for the possessed. This method (and you can check this from the ahadeeth) the Prophet pbuh utilised did not require the recitation of Qur'an.

To further prove that ayaat for recitation over a possessed person are unneccesary - I ask you to look at the cases of possession from the pre-Islamic period of Jahilliyah in Arabia, and other nations whcih all had exorcism taking place - how did they exorcise the jinn? with Quranic ayaat before their revelation? The question is a good one, right? makes one think and become a little uncomfortable in their bias, right? Truth is never convenient.

How did the Prophet pbuh exorcise jinn? One case I will mention in sha Allah.

A woman came to the Prophet pbuh and told him her son (or nephew) was crazy, so the prophet pbuh asked her to fetch him. She went to where the animals were grazing, as she had left her son (or nephew) there, so she made him wear clean clothes and took him to the prophet pbuh. The prophet pbuh said "bring his back to me" so the young man was presented with his back to the prophet pbuh. The prophet then slapped the young man on his back forcefully and commanded the jinn "leave him oh enemy of Allah" and the boys face brightened up and he became free of the possession. From that day forth, he was the most regular in salaat in masjid.

Where were the Qur'anic Ayaat?

We are not saying "do not perform rukya with quranic ayaat" - NO - quite the opposite, Qur'anic ayaat are definietely a form of healing for both, physical and spiritual sicknesses. This is not the issue - the issue is, ignoring the method in lieu of just recitiation because this was never the sunnah of rukya for possession. The sunnah has a method to it. And modern day raqhi's do not follow any method which I can see as authentic.

My teacher performs rukya according to the method of Prophet Muhammad pbuh and also recites the Qur'an over patients as well - he does not tell us to never recite ayaat - quite the contrary, he tells us it is beneficial to do so, but to remember, the method is what allows the raqhi to know if there is a jinn, what type of jinn personality, and where it is located in the body and if there are more than one - and he method can make these jinn manifest in the person within a matter of moments. Contrast to raqhi's who recite for hours on end without getting a reaction out of the patient and you find, the cause is not understanding the method.

The method is very insightful and interesting and cannot be written about - it has to be witnessed and learnt practically.

In sha Allah, I hope this helps.

And Allah knows best.

Scimi
 
Last edited:

Similar Threads

Back
Top