SOME of the ERRORS in the HOLY BIBLE

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IsaAbdullah said:
Oh so Avar you have the really special type of feeling which cant be expressed by words aswell, when you read The Guru Granth Sahib?

Peace
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Indeed, it brings you closer to God as it contains praise of the Almighty. We stop short of calling it 'God' or worshipping it. :)

Do you not experience anything whilst reading the Koran?
 
AvarAllahNoor said:
Indeed, it brings you closer to God as it contains praise of the Almighty. We stop short of calling it 'God' or worshipping it. :)

Do you not experience anything whilst reading the Koran?
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Well I dont know what your feeling, if i knew I could tell you if thats how I feel and if that is what I experience.
 
Ok well..

I can only really echo these statements:

"I too, can't explain the feeling i get.."
"t's a feeling which cannot be expressed by words."

The feeling I get from just reading the Qu'ran is undescribeable, I do not speak arabic but the Surahs that I have learned, I know the meaning of the words and because of my origins I can understand them easier than most.

The feelins I have when I read/recite varies depending what it is I am reciting, the underlyin feelings of completeness, satisfaction, sense of jus an overwehlmin joy are there, but feelings such as not sadness but knowledge of my wrongfullness against MYSELF also can be felt when I read particular parts, or jus excessive laughter, like i cant stop laughin not out of humour not like i've heard a joke or nothing lol but i dont know its there.

its very long and kinda complicated.
 
I was just wondering if Jesus did die for our sins, then who will die for us again? because us humans are sinning even more than they did in the time of Jesus.

Just something we all need to ponder over. Personally i believe we will all suffer for our own actions.
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Jesus paid the price for every sin, meaning every sin tht any1 has ever done, and is ever going to do.

I believe if we accept jesus as our lord and saviour we escape that punishment because hes paid it already. I believe that God loved the world to much to punish so he made himself flesh to pay it for us. The bible teachs this.

For God so loved the word he gave his only begotten son, that who so ever recieved him should not persih, but hav ever lasting life. John 3:16

Also in john it says, the word is God, and God became flesh.

God bless
 
The word is a G-d and the word became flesh.

Anyhow, I dont get it, Christians tell me that G-d is just but that dont seem to conform with the concept of Jesus dying.
 
IsaAbdullah said:
Ok well..

I can only really echo these statements:

"I too, can't explain the feeling i get.."
"t's a feeling which cannot be expressed by words."

The feeling I get from just reading the Qu'ran is undescribeable, I do not speak arabic but the Surahs that I have learned, I know the meaning of the words and because of my origins I can understand them easier than most.

The feelins I have when I read/recite varies depending what it is I am reciting, the underlyin feelings of completeness, satisfaction, sense of jus an overwehlmin joy are there, but feelings such as not sadness but knowledge of my wrongfullness against MYSELF also can be felt when I read particular parts, or jus excessive laughter, like i cant stop laughin not out of humour not like i've heard a joke or nothing lol but i dont know its there.

its very long and kinda complicated.
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The state i go through, i suppose could only be described as bliss.
 
Anyhow, I dont get it, Christians tell me that G-d is just but that dont seem to conform with the concept of Jesus dying.
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He is a just God, he punishs sin which is just, but he is also an all loving God, so being a just and loving God, he had to punish, but loved us to much to punish us, so he became flesh to take our punishment, so who ever accepted him would not perish.

God bless
 
I think I will jus open a couple of threads when I get oragnised on the topics which would be nice to be discussed.

That way I can keep with the comments and not get lost and also dont go a stray.
 
Bliss could be one of the words to discribe it i guess.

By the way, 'The Enlightened One' was He enlightened by anyone?
 
IsaAbdullah said:
So you kinda agree you only really worship Jesus and so on because of the feeling and beautiful experience you have had at the hands of askin Jesus to be ur saviour and praising him?
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we usualy call this feeling: "faith" or "grace of faith" ;)
R. otto said that God is both fascinating and terrifying at the same time. When faith comes you feel you're nothing, less then dust, dirty and sinful. But you wouldn't like to avoid this feeling even if you could.
I guess this mean that - yes, because of "this beautiful expirience"

IsaAbdullah said:
Peace be upon Jesus and his Mother and his followers.
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...whether they believe He was a prophet or a God
Amen :)
 
I'd like to register my objections to the premise of this thread.
The Bible is a book that Christians consider to be a sacred text. Sacred texts are notoriously nuanced, and not to be treated superficially. If you discuss the Bible, show respect for it as a text held sacred by our siblings in humanity.
Some of the same things that make the Bible hard to understand on a superficial level apply to the Qur'an, yet many Muslims take offense at people decrying the Qur'an's apparent lack of structure, plagiarization of other sacred texts, and verses advocating violence.
Instead of flinging accusations about "errors" in the Bible or any other sacred text, let's celebrate our differences, or similarities, and what makes God's creation beautifully diverse.
 
NJUSA said:
I'd like to register my objections to the premise of this thread.
The Bible is a book that Christians consider to be a sacred text. Sacred texts are notoriously nuanced, and not to be treated superficially. If you discuss the Bible, show respect for it as a text held sacred by our siblings in humanity.
Some of the same things that make the Bible hard to understand on a superficial level apply to the Qur'an, yet many Muslims take offense at people decrying the Qur'an's apparent lack of structure, plagiarization of other sacred texts, and verses advocating violence.
Instead of flinging accusations about "errors" in the Bible or any other sacred text, let's celebrate our differences, or similarities, and what makes God's creation beautifully diverse.
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No offense sis, but I think this thread is valid, the christians here can refute as they wish.
 
Greetings and peace be with you NJUSA,

NJUSA said:
I'd like to register my objections to the premise of this thread.
The Bible is a book that Christians consider to be a sacred text. Sacred texts are notoriously nuanced, and not to be treated superficially. If you discuss the Bible, show respect for it as a text held sacred by our siblings in humanity.
Some of the same things that make the Bible hard to understand on a superficial level apply to the Qur'an, yet many Muslims take offense at people decrying the Qur'an's apparent lack of structure, plagiarization of other sacred texts, and verses advocating violence.
Instead of flinging accusations about "errors" in the Bible or any other sacred text, let's celebrate our differences, or similarities, and what makes God's creation beautifully diverse.
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What a wonderful approach to take when looking at other people's faith, we do need to to be more tolerant and understanding.

May Allah continue to Bless your efforts

Eric
 

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