SOME of the ERRORS in the HOLY BIBLE

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Eric H said:
What a wonderful approach to take when looking at other people's faith, we do need to to be more tolerant and understanding.
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Go explain that to your own people.
 
Asalaamu Alaikum Wa Rahmatullahi


this is the funniest thread I have ever seen in my life!!

Allah The All mighty creator has challenges anyone of man and Jinn untill the day of judgment to comprise a book comparable to its caliber
Allah doenst need U islam Bashers U need Allah and weather u like it or not Islam is free of contradiction u can try to find "errors" all u want till ur face turns purple...Till the cows come home. But these contradictions are and forever will be a mere lack of understanding and knowledge of islam
weather or not the bible contradicts itself is not for me to say but for all u bible lecturers up in here i suggest u practice what u preach and try to read The holy Quran cover to cover with no preconcieved ideas...(which i doubt any of u will do but until then please stop copying and pasting from ignorant saps who had nothing better to do on a bright sunday afternoon than to trash talk the Glorious Quraan

That wwas a really good laugh

Maa salaama
 
why would anybody waste their time searching for mistakes in someone else's holy book????
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May to tell (proof) them that they are wrong and should stop because if they do not they will go to hell. That's a short anwers to a short question

If you want more of an anwer to why we are wasting our time then PM :)
 
Idris said:
May to tell (proof) them that they are wrong and should stop because if they do not they will go to hell. That's a short anwers to a short question

If you want more of an anwer to why we are wasting our time then PM :)
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why is there any desire to prove that others are wrong? why not worry about ourselves and leave the others to god to judge and worry about?
i can't imagine going through other people's holy books to find errors...
 
yes, thanks.
i guess it is just a strange idea to me because i think trying to change some one else's religion is strange, tho i realise it you are obliged to do it.
 
snakelegs said:
why is there any desire to prove that others are wrong? why not worry about ourselves and leave the others to god to judge and worry about?
i can't imagine going through other people's holy books to find errors...
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Hmm, jus for the purpose of trying to see both sides I will TRY lol to put something forward, now this has jus come to mind so if there are mistakes tell me:

For example,

Say you found out that your friend lived in a house, and the building company who built his house was known for making mistakes with the gas, and many people had died from living in houses made by them because of gas leaks, and you had this knowledge, I am hoping you would tell your friend, 'yo, whats the dillio :giggling: bro check your house I think you mighth ave a gas leak since I know others who have had them when their houses were made by this company' but your friend doesnt believe you so you go to your friend's house and say, 'let me look around to find the fault' and you go to the boiler and find the fault and show him, and then he believes you and leaves.


Now similarly, if you know that someone's religion has a fault in it, then wouldnt you tell him? Or would you jus let him be, which could mean he would die or find out himself.

If you would take the risk of him dying then I guess thats upto you.

But personally, I would tell him, and if he didnt believe him I would show him.

Peace
 
IsaAbdullah said:
Hmm, jus for the purpose of trying to see both sides I will TRY lol to put something forward, now this has jus come to mind so if there are mistakes tell me:

For example,

Say you found out that your friend lived in a house, and the building company who built his house was known for making mistakes with the gas, and many people had died from living in houses made by them because of gas leaks, and you had this knowledge, I am hoping you would tell your friend, 'yo, whats the dillio :giggling: bro check your house I think you mighth ave a gas leak since I know others who have had them when their houses were made by this company' but your friend doesnt believe you so you go to your friend's house and say, 'let me look around to find the fault' and you go to the boiler and find the fault and show him, and then he believes you and leaves.


Now similarly, if you know that someone's religion has a fault in it, then wouldnt you tell him? Or would you jus let him be, which could mean he would die or find out himself.

If you would take the risk of him dying then I guess thats upto you.

But personally, I would tell him, and if he didnt believe him I would show him.

Peace
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your analogy doesn't work because the gas leak is clearly observable and measurable. the afterlife is a belief.

how could i know that someone's religion has a fault in it, since it is a matter of faith? i don't have to agree with someone's beliefs, all i have to do is respect them.
 
what im saying is:

In the similar sense that one has knowledge of a fault in the gas system, a muslim may feel he knows his friends religion has a fault.

So for example if the muslim says your religion has a fault in its scripture, but the person doesnt believe the muslim then the muslim can say look and shows him a contradiction thats all.

similar with a person having knowledge of a gas leak and showin his friend of the gas leak.

"your analogy doesn't work because the gas leak is clearly observable and measurable. the afterlife is a belief."

I dont know where I was comparing anything to the afterlife, the gas leak which is observable, is 'the fault' which in religion would be the contradiction, which is observable.

"how could i know that someone's religion has a fault in it, since it is a matter of faith? i don't have to agree with someone's beliefs, all i have to do is respect them."

Ok, if someone says that something is written by someone who is perfect, then you wouldnt expect mistakes in it. If you find one then you know it has a fault right?

(and I know most christians here dont think the bible is G-ds word)

Noone said you have to agree, and yes respect the belief, but respecting isnt just accepting, you should speak and act in a respectable manner but still be truthful. If you find what you believe to be a fault in someones belief system then it would be the noble thing to do for you to approach them and ask about it, so together you can both find truth.
 
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FROM the article The TORAH and the BIBLES of TODAY

http://serenityfountain.org/islam.asp

Let us listen to educated Christian men of science and see what their opinions are on the matter of whether today's Bibles are Allah's word or not.

On the 17 th page of his book Is the Bible Allah's Word? Dr. Graham Scroggie, who is from the "Moody Bible Institutions," says: "Yes, the Holy Bible is the work of human beings. Some people oppose this fact with reasons I cannot understand. The Bible is a work which was prepared in the minds of men, written down in their language, with their own hands and completely possessed of the human character."


Although he is a Christian, Kenneth Crag, a man of religion, says: "The New Testament, which is part of the Holy Bible, is not the word of Allah. In it, there are tales told by mankind and the testimony of people who saw how something had happened. Those words, which originated only from the minds of human beings, have been presented to people as if they were the words of Allahu ta'ala."


Theologist Prof. Geyser says: "The Holy Bible is not the word of Allahu ta'ala. But, in spite of this, it is a holy book."


There had been popes in history who did not believe in the doctrine of the "Trinity" which is the unity of three: "Allah, the Son, the Holy Ghost." One of these popes, Honorius, was officially cursed forty-eight years after his death by the Synod which was held in Istanbul in 680 A.D.


The Bible, written by Barnabas who was one of the apostles of Isa ('alaihi 's-salam) and who traveled together with Paul to spread Christianity, suddenly disappeared and, hence, the proof that "A Prophet will come after me; his name will be Muhammad (sall-Allahu 'alaihi wa sallam) and he will teach you many things" which was said by Hadrat Jesus, has been hidden by the extreme elements of the Christian Church.this passage is going on...
 
Yep I think most christians on here agree with those statements, right upto jus before the mention of Gospel of Barnabas lol.
 
IsaAbdullah said:
what im saying is:

In the similar sense that one has knowledge of a fault in the gas system, a muslim may feel he knows his friends religion has a fault.

So for example if the muslim says your religion has a fault in its scripture, but the person doesnt believe the muslim then the muslim can say look and shows him a contradiction thats all.

similar with a person having knowledge of a gas leak and showin his friend of the gas leak.

"your analogy doesn't work because the gas leak is clearly observable and measurable. the afterlife is a belief."

I dont know where I was comparing anything to the afterlife, the gas leak which is observable, is 'the fault' which in religion would be the contradiction, which is observable.

because you had said "If you would take the risk of him dying then I guess thats upto you."

"how could i know that someone's religion has a fault in it, since it is a matter of faith? i don't have to agree with someone's beliefs, all i have to do is respect them."

Ok, if someone says that something is written by someone who is perfect, then you wouldnt expect mistakes in it. If you find one then you know it has a fault right?

how would i know it has a fault? to people who follow a religion, that is their truth and i see nothing wrong with that.

(and I know most christians here dont think the bible is G-ds word)

Noone said you have to agree, and yes respect the belief, but respecting isnt just accepting, you should speak and act in a respectable manner but still be truthful. If you find what you believe to be a fault in someones belief system then it would be the noble thing to do for you to approach them and ask about it, so together you can both find truth.
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i understand what you're saying, and that this is the muslim (christian, too i think) position.
i have to admit that i have a problem with proselytizing religions (here it's always christians).
in any case, i am glad that i don't have to read other people's holy books to search for mistakes!
thanks for your explanations.
 
Greetings and peace be with you Idris;

May to tell (proof) them that they are wrong and should stop because if they do not they will go to hell. That's a short anwers to a short question
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There is no proof for any of us, we do not even have proof for the existance of God, we can only believe and have faith, you only have to read through the atheism thread to see this.

In both Islam and Christianity it says God chooses whom he wills, yet he seems to choose us in many diverse ways.

In the spirit of seking a greater interfaith friendship

Eric
 
snakelegs said:
i understand what you're saying, and that this is the muslim (christian, too i think) position.
i have to admit that i have a problem with proselytizing religions (here it's always christians).
in any case, i am glad that i don't have to read other people's holy books to search for mistakes!
thanks for your explanations.
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Im glad you kinda understood me, lol i was begging to think I was jus confusing everyone.

I dont get the proselytizing thing, I dont have a clue on that word.

I dont think many people jus go reading other peoples books to find mistakes, they jus hear lectures or something.
 
IsaAbdullah said:
Im glad you kinda understood me, lol i was begging to think I was jus confusing everyone.

I dont get the proselytizing thing, I dont have a clue on that word.

I dont think many people jus go reading other peoples books to find mistakes, they jus hear lectures or something.
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proselytizing religions are those (i think it's only muslims and christians) who believe that they must convert others to their religion. in other words, they believe they have the Truth and they think they have to change others.
i have a problem with that because i have no desire to change them, why should they seek to change me? to me, it is disrespectful and arrogant to tell someone their religion is Wrong.
 

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