Strange thread about cheese

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at this time of year it has to be baby bell, the baby cheeses, although the nativity is nought but crackers
 
baby bell and laughing cow are made by the same co. me thinkus .. I used to like it too, but my local super only had it in diet and I wish I hadn't tried it in diet form because it turned me off for life...

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Gossamer skye said:
baby bell and laughing cow are made by the same co. me thinkus .. I used to like it too, but my local super only had it in diet and I wish I hadn't tried it in diet form because it turned me off for life...

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sister its a joke, the baby cheeses.......xmas humour......baby Jesus (pbuh).............I love allcheese though
 
Tony said:
sister its a joke, the baby cheeses.......xmas humour......baby Jesus (pbuh).............I love allcheese though
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oh lol.. I thought you were talking about these:

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my humble apologies :hiding:
 
Tony said:
lol...catch up sister haha..... i missed this forum. ;D
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I am trying I am trying, but it is 24˚F, and everything about me including my reflexes is slow.. except for my headache, it is fast and expanding

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lol.. been trying to avoid all that xmas stuff by watching the chiller Chanel..

maybe I'll venture into watching a man for all seasons on netflix the rest of this fine sunday :D

p.s it is good to have you back..

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Woodrow said:
All except for laughing cow and Tillmook are cheese varieties. any of which can be found in either halal or haram Need to check the labels and see if they are produced with animal enzymes, gelatins etc. But all can be found made by halal methods.

Laughing Cow is a specific brand, and it has been verified halal and is proably the most popular French Cheese in Islamic nations.

Tillmook sells many varieities, it is best to check the individual varieties.
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But I have also heard people say that since during production the chemical composition of the cheese changes, it becomes halal (due to chemical reaction)?

Some scholars even argue that eating food cooked in wine is halal, because in the cooking process the alcohol is completely burnt up.
 
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My mother had bought a pizza but I can't eat it because of the cheese. She didn't know that cheese can be haram. I'm going to check all labels to determine which cheeses are halal and always buy those. I usually don't eat many processed foods, but from now on I will stop eating them altogether. Everything seems to be either haram or suspect.

I was happy to find an online cheese shop which sells Dutch cheese, but astonishingly all of them seem to have been made with rennet! I saw this delicious cheese which had onion, garlic and red pepper in it, but I can't buy it. I want some delicious cheese! :heated:
 
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what is a good cheese to send for a gift that won't rot in the distance? say if you are sending it to another country, if you pack it with ice packs how long will it take before it rots?

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Gossamer skye said:
what is a good cheese to send for a gift that won't rot in the distance? say if you are sending it to another country, if you pack it with ice packs how long will it take before it rots?

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Salam,

Some of the Dutch cheeses fall into that category, I read this on this Dutch site I was talking about. You can order there, they sell worldwide: http://www.goudacheeseshop.com/


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You're welcome. I'm not a big fan of Dutch cheese though, some are really good, but others taste like rubber.
 
Oh wait, how clever of me.. you want to send cheese abroad? In that case you'd better buy cheese in the U.S. of course..

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Argamemnon said:
Oh wait, how clever of me.. you want to send cheese abroad? In that case you'd better buy cheese in the U.S. of course..

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lol... indeed.. I need to send it to the far east & that will take a very long time..I wanted something with some longevity or a company that takes international orders or something..

Jazaka Allah khyran

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Gossamer skye said:
or a company that takes international orders or something..

Jazaka Allah khyran

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if you are going to buy the cheese in the U.S. (to send them to the far east), then why do you need a company that takes international orders?

that cheese shop i mentioned takes international orders;

Shipping duration
DHL | TNT

United States of America 2-3 days 5-7 days

sorry maybe i misunderstood...

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Argamemnon said:
if you are going to buy the cheese in the U.S. (to send them to the far east), then why do you need a company that takes international orders?

that cheese shop i mentioned takes international orders;

Shipping duration
DHL | TNT

United States of America 2-3 days 5-7 days

sorry maybe i misunderstood...

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you understood correctly, I want to send it as a gift for someone who wants to try the cheese but purchasing cheese from the U.S will sure to turn plain Philadelphia cream into Roquefort by the time it gets there.. finding a middle place is best I think, or I might just actually sent Roquefort, I don't think it can get more rotten? I just don't know how well that will be received ;D I personally love it, but it is definitely an acquired taste..
 
Is Cheese Halal or Haram?

The Question of Rennet
Answered by Shaykh Ilyas Patel

Question:I have found three opinions concerning cheese made with animal rennet.

Q1) One is that since the rennet is haram, the cheese is haram.

Q2) Another is that since the rennet doesn't remain a part of the cheese- it is only used to separate the curds from the whey, the cheese is halal.

Q3. Another is that the Prophet (saws) ate cheese, therefore it is halal. I am not clear about this particular one and would like to find out in more detail, i.e. was this cheese made using animal rennet?

So, is cheese/whey made using animal rennet halal or haram, according to the Hanafi School?

Answer:

A1. In the Hanafi School, rennet obtained from an animal slaughtered by a non-Muslim or Muslim in accordance with Islamic law or contrary to it, in all cases is permissible, as long as the animal in question is not a pig.

Most well informed people are adamant that rennet, which is used to make cheese, is not derived from pigs.

A2. Rennet, Rennin as an enzyme is used in the food industry for the preparation of cheese by curdling milk. The only way to know whether the source of rennet is animal, plant or microbe is to ask the food industry about it or have it written on the label.

The lawfulness of rennet does not depend on the slaughterer being a Muslim or non-Muslim, in fact it depends upon whether there is life in it or not. The circulation of blood in an organ is the cause of life. No blood flows through rennet, therefore rennet is not a living thing. Therefore, it cannot 'die' and it is thus permissible to consume rennet.[Muslim Food Guide, pg 25-30, http://www.halaal.co.uk ]

A3. It has been narrated in the major hadith collection s from Abdullah ibn Umar (Allah be pleased with him and hi s father) that the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) was brought cheese in the Battle of Tabuk. He asked for a knife then recited 'bismillah' and cut the cheese.' (Abu Dawud)

Cheese made with animal rennet other than a pig source is halal. The fuqaha explain, however, that it is better to avoid whenever reasonably possible when its source is unknown because of the difference of opinion between the Sunni schools of fiqh regarding its permissibility and the doubt therein.

And Allah alone gives success.

Ilyas Patel,
Abu Zahra Institute
Keighley , UK .

http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=1&ID=432&CATE=29
 
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update on Wisconsin cheese man products.. I just received this email from them today a few weeks after inquiry..

I have checked with our Quality Assurance Department and they responded as follows:

"I can assure you that the rennet/enzymes in cheese are more than likely microbially manufactured rather than being of animal origin. It's more common now. If animal origin, it would be from cows not pigs. Further questions, let me know.

Hope this helps.

Kristy"

Patricia
Customer Service

THE WISCONSIN CHEESEMAN
1-800-698-1751
Monday-Friday
8:00 a.m.-4:30 p.m. CST
 

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