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If 100 milion muslims would donate 1000$, it would make a great difference, inshaAllah.
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During the war in Bosnia, about 65 billion $ were donated and Bosnia has about 1 million muslim population (by name).
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If 100 milion muslims would donate 1000$, it would make a great difference, inshaAllah.
https://sunnah.com/muslim:2984a
During the war in Bosnia, about 65 billion $ were donated and Bosnia has about 1 million muslim population (by name).
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correction - 2,5 million population at the beginning of the war, and the money was mainly donated by non Muslim countries. Muslim countries didn't do much.
And, are you serious? Where would you find that rich number of Muslims donating for the cause? 100 million of Muslims? Get real!
Money doesn't change much if there's no real effort. And we all know what's the real effort. Unfortunately, today money replaces everything in human heads. It's probably easier to sit in armchair and do nothing, just click on few buttons and that's it...
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The psychology of the world today is complicated. Before digital era and before era of the media it was easier to live. Today people around the world are bombarded by information on what exactly is going on in every corner of the world. So unbelievers have their way to cope with horrors of this world: ignore, drink, party, meditate, drugs, watch movies, listen to the music, some spiritual stuff like following pagan ideas and finally focusing on themselves and their own problems.
This affects Muslims, as Muslims are also involved in the media and social media of the world - new world order. And you'll hear same wordings as unbelievers. Think positive, medidate, do nothing, concentrate on yourself.
It indeed is very hard to know how horrible people live in this world - that's what's Jahannam is for, but by the time we have to share this world with them - mass killers, rapists, hypocrites etc.
The new era made men weak as boys. So many excuses to do right thing. As "mediation and focus on yourself" you'll find among muslims "sit, pray, dhikir, read books."
But the salaf were the opposite. They would shiver if any bad thing would be happening to muslim brother or sister. They'd give up everything for the Ummah. They'd give up wealth and health. Ibn Masud was almost a dwarf, but he was one of the best in battles.
Dear sister, Prophet peace be upon him told us that there is going to be khalifa in the end of times, that he is going to establish justice. That prophecy is a test. Khalifa is going to come, we need to do nothing. But the problem is that he's not going to come before we change ourselves, before we build the movement, strong movement inside the Ummah which is going to give up everything of worldly life to defend muslims and to establish unity which Allah commanded us to do. And that movement is definitely not going to advise: sit, dhikr, pray, donate...
Luckily sister, girls are not responsible for this. Men of this Ummah time will be asked on Judgment day what have they done.
Imagine, no one cares about Al Aqsa!!! Our third holly place and our first Qibla! That's enough my dear. Sorry, only Palestinians care and they're being slandered by other muslims.
The psychology of the world today is complicated. Before digital era and before era of the media it was easier to live. Today people around the world are bombarded by information on what exactly is going on in every corner of the world. So unbelievers have their way to cope with horrors of this world: ignore, drink, party, meditate, drugs, watch movies, listen to the music, some spiritual stuff like following pagan ideas and finally focusing on themselves and their own problems.
This affects Muslims, as Muslims are also involved in the media and social media of the world - new world order. And you'll hear same wordings as unbelievers. Think positive, medidate, do nothing, concentrate on yourself.
It indeed is very hard to know how horrible people live in this world - that's what's Jahannam is for, but by the time we have to share this world with them - mass killers, rapists, hypocrites etc.
The new era made men weak as boys. So many excuses to do right thing. As "mediation and focus on yourself" you'll find among muslims "sit, pray, dhikir, read books."
But the salaf were the opposite. They would shiver if any bad thing would be happening to muslim brother or sister. They'd give up everything for the Ummah. They'd give up wealth and health. Ibn Masud was almost a dwarf, but he was one of the best in battles.
Dear sister, Prophet peace be upon him told us that there is going to be khalifa in the end of times, that he is going to establish justice. That prophecy is a test. Khalifa is going to come, we need to do nothing. But the problem is that he's not going to come before we change ourselves, before we build the movement, strong movement inside the Ummah which is going to give up everything of worldly life to defend muslims and to establish unity which Allah commanded us to do. And that movement is definitely not going to advise: sit, dhikr, pray, donate...
Luckily sister, girls are not responsible for this. Men of this Ummah time will be asked on Judgment day what have they done.
Imagine, no one cares about Al Aqsa!!! Our third holly place and our first Qibla! That's enough my dear. Sorry, only Palestinians care and they're being slandered by other muslims.
Both men and women have their own obligations, but in the end, everyone has a responsibility. There is no bias on judgement day based on gender.
my posts are getting cut off, but I wanted to add it’s not as simple as picking up a sword and marching out to fight. That would be ridiculous. Muslims are spread all over the world under no leadership or unity of any kind. I appreciate the enthusiasm that people bring to these discussions, but they are so out of touch with reality sometimes.
Also, the slandering part. Are you referring to my previous post or what? I want to make sure before replying further..
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Aren't you the one with 2 Ph.D. degrees from different sciences, at Cambridge? Aren't you reading 2 books a day? If yes, why are you asking me this? I'm not as smart as you...
However, to everyone:
When the war in Ukraine started, most of Muslims said "Look at those hypocrites, they never reacted like this in regards to Syria."
Mmmm, who's hypocrite here?
Westerns got united against a common enemy. Though Ukrainians think the west didn't do much. Still, all the countries sanctioned Russia severely. They're sending weapons, even people, military units, volunteers, giving every single Ukrainian shelter (those who manage to escape).
As for Middle East, they're right: why would we react the same way since Muslims don't care at all. Refugees?? Which Muslim country offered shelter to all of them? None... Russia is main enemy of the West: USA, EU, ex Soviet Union. Israel, Indian hindus, Assad are not.
The West is scared of Russia. They can be scared, they're disbelievers. What about us?
Ohh, don't tell me: our governments are corrupt. What are you doing in regards to change that? Can't you boycott Israeli products? Can't you boycott French products? Can't you stop supporting products that make Muslims depend on the West, like banks? Couldn't you offer shelter to refugees from Afghanistan or Syria? Who is sending weapons to Palestine? Who, except Palestinians, is defending Al Aqsa with their bodies?
Can't we start a movement to unite and defend Muslims? Look at the Westerns. I personally know people who gave up everything to help Ukraine. They went there, left jobs, took loans.
Only a few people are enough to start the movement. It'll spread. Allah will give barakah to it if we just show a little bit of effort.
In regards to responsibilities: No, girls are not responsible. We are not into politics, we can't be political leaders and social movements are politics as well.
Aren't you the one with 2 Ph.D. degrees from different sciences, at Cambridge? Aren't you reading 2 books a day? If yes, why are you asking me this? I'm not as smart as you...
However, to everyone:
When the war in Ukraine started, most of Muslims said "Look at those hypocrites, they never reacted like this in regards to Syria."
Mmmm, who's hypocrite here?
Westerns got united against a common enemy. Though Ukrainians think the west didn't do much. Still, all the countries sanctioned Russia severely. They're sending weapons, even people, military units, volunteers, giving every single Ukrainian shelter (those who manage to escape).
As for Middle East, they're right: why would we react the same way since Muslims don't care at all. Refugees?? Which Muslim country offered shelter to all of them? None... Russia is main enemy of the West: USA, EU, ex Soviet Union. Israel, Indian hindus, Assad are not.
The West is scared of Russia. They can be scared, they're disbelievers. What about us?
Ohh, don't tell me: our governments are corrupt. What are you doing in regards to change that? Can't you boycott Israeli products? Can't you boycott French products? Can't you stop supporting products that make Muslims depend on the West, like banks? Couldn't you offer shelter to refugees from Afghanistan or Syria? Who is sending weapons to Palestine? Who, except Palestinians, is defending Al Aqsa with their bodies?
Can't we start a movement to unite and defend Muslims? Look at the Westerns. I personally know people who gave up everything to help Ukraine. They went there, left jobs, took loans.
Only a few people are enough to start the movement. It'll spread. Allah will give barakah to it if we just show a little bit of effort.
In regards to responsibilities: No, girls are not responsible. We are not into politics, we can't be political leaders and social movements are politics as well.
We should empower, educate and enrich you woman to parttake is a global change.
We do not need any specific location, as Albert Einstein told to the Jews.
We must first put effort to change ourselfs and to get better in getting closer to Allah. That is the best sabab for dunya too, not neglecting others.
Do you know how Malaysia and Indonesia accepted Islam?
We need new walis-every other recommendation is not that good.
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We should empower, educate and enrich you woman to parttake is a global change.
We do not need any specific location, as Albert Einstein told to the Jews.
We must first put effort to change ourselfs and to get better in getting closer to Allah. That is the best sabab for dunya too, not neglecting others.
Do you know how Malaysia and Indonesia accepted Islam?
We need new walis-every other recommendation is not that good.
Tell me what do you do when you see a fire in your neighborhood? A neighbor's house is burning and a family is inside. What is your reaction?
Unless governments or entire countries worth of people get involved, boycotts are child's play with only maybe temporary effects. There were Muslims and non Muslims boycotting against a bunch of different companies over the years but it would be impossible to successfully have any permanent effects as many of the different companies and brands out there end up being tied to one parent company anyway. Some products have simply rebranded like nothing ever happened. Unless you're living on some kind of self sufficient homestead out in the mountains, chances are, you are helping contribute to the people you consider enemies whether you realize it or not. I'm afraid the world is more complicated than you make it out to be.
What you see going on in eastern Europe is nothing but a puppet show. Redditors who've never even heard of Ukraine a few months ago are all of a sudden painting their faces yellow and blue while wanting to go and fight for them. The kind of movement you are asking for is the kind of movement that gets Muslims locked up in prison for the rest of their lives. Now, for a more realistic approach to this, I'd say that a foundation for success would be with the Muslim countries and the scholars within them to unite and collaborate on this issue. How is it that israel is able to successfully bring in Jews from all around the world while giving them aid on top of that? Are there Muslim countries that are doing the same thing? Chances are, the leaders of these Muslim countries are put in there by the west anyways, and the ones that aren't, are simply following their orders. So yea, I'd say our governments are corrupt.
I made a general, non political, statement that both men and women have responsibilities in this life. No one gender gets to take the back seat here. You're viewing the world with a magnifying glass. Try looking at the bigger picture here. Why do you think the structure of the family has been slowly broken apart over the years? Muslim kids are growing up in dysfunctional homes because both of the parent's aren't doing their jobs. The "housewife" title has been shunned, so now the women want to compete with the men or at the very least, be their equals. Laws are heavily biased against men, so the men have to conform or else they lose everything. Kinda hard to raise men in those situations.
Interesting response, but we must empower and educate women in every role, even housewife.It is good to have educated women, but in moral and lawful ways, not mistresses or pseudoeducated academia, which is so often in corrupted lands.Nowdays, a college before marriage should be a must. Salaries jump at least twice for every 2 years of additional formal education.We should put our efforts. It is easy to have a "housewife" if men earn half a million and more yearly. We must invest, have business and social skills.manofIslam
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I think we try to help our Muslim Brothers and Sisters as much as we can, in any way that we possibly can, and, perhaps more importantly, be diligent with our Salat and Du'a, and be patient for ALLAH SUBHANAHU WA TA'ALA to grant us Mercy when He sees fit!
Almost the best remedy for female corruption is to further and further educate and empower them, both in quality and in quantity, so that the quantity will bring forth morality and quality.I know what female corruption is developing muslim countries is. You can not protect you against so many scenarios they will try to subdue you if you do not support them in many different ways. If you are moral, it is harder, but a group can do many things. Do not ever talk about private sphere with women at work or plan like a marriage with them, especially if alone. For marriage her family will contact you if ypu are that good. Alhamdulillah, doing regular adhkaar, salawat and dua and every kind of nawafil ibada (including sadaqa, altruism...), we will inshaAllah be a lot more protectedPSAs the female corruption eradicates, the male will be eradicated fast inshaAllah.I do not say one is better or other, both men and women can be corrupted.We as muslims are far away from golden generations, our universities and libraries, like Alexandria, Baghdaad, Cordoba, where thousands of both male and female shuyuuk would put their efforts in serious research and teaching.What they maybe neglected is increasing sunnah nawafil. We maybe do not love efforts. Female, it is known scientifically and natural, love efforts less than men. They need a lot more and better examples than men.
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