SUFISM: The Deviated Path

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"Sufism as an organised movement arose among pious Muslims as a reaction against the worldliness of the early Umayyad period"

I still don't understand the point of Sufism if it was supposed to be the answer to corruptness. That's an issue on an individual basis, not a religious one. If early Muslims were having problems and not following the way of the Sunnah, Islam didn't need reforming or have new sects branch out of it because of issues people were having. To come up with something new would mean that there were issues with Islam as a whole, otherwise there wouldn't of been a need for the Sufism belief. At least that's what I'm getting out of this.

That's the claim. On the face of it seems as though Sufis are simply concerned with dhikr to get closer to Allah, which seems like an innocent and praiseworthy endeavour. However, the real issue is, just as it is with any group or sect, they restrict themselves to particular acts of worship at the expense of others. Sufis focus so much on dhikr that they fail to worship Allah as described by Allah and His Messenger. The basic principle in Islam is that all acts of worship are forbidden except for those that are approved within the Qur'an and Sunnah. One cannot 'invent' an act of worship and expect Allah to accept it. This includes acts like the Sufi dances, chanting, singing, etc.

You've said it yourself 'there are also lots of different orders and beliefs within sufism'. This is plain and clear division amongst Muslims because the Qur'an and Sunnah are not being learned and applied within these 'different orders'. There was no such nonsense as sufism or salafism, etc at the time of the Prophet (:saws1:). You label yourself a Muslim and follow the teachings of Islam as described in the Qur'an and Sunnah.

People these days are too concerned with labelling themselves as one thing or the other with each group claiming to be more righteous and closer to Allah than the other. The reality is these are all just names and imaginary boundaries that are far removed from Islam.

For instance, why don't Sufis focus on all aspects of Islam and follow the religion wholly and completely rather than making a mockery of one act of worship? The same goes for all other groups and sects.

If anybody here is offended by the above then the problem is with you. Not with anyone else.

Which is basically my point of view. If the above quote in my post is true in how Sufism began, than my point still stands in terms of people needing to reform themselves and not the religion.
 
That's the claim. On the face of it seems as though Sufis are simply concerned with dhikr to get closer to Allah, which seems like an innocent and praiseworthy endeavour. However, the real issue is, just as it is with any group or sect, they restrict themselves to particular acts of worship at the expense of others. Sufis focus so much on dhikr that they fail to worship Allah as described by Allah and His Messenger. The basic principle in Islam is that all acts of worship are forbidden except for those that are approved within the Qur'an and Sunnah. One cannot 'invent' an act of worship and expect Allah to accept it. This includes acts like the Sufi dances, chanting, singing, etc.

You've said it yourself 'there are also lots of different orders and beliefs within sufism'. This is plain and clear division amongst Muslims because the Qur'an and Sunnah are not being learned and applied within these 'different orders'. There was no such nonsense as sufism or salafism, etc at the time of the Prophet (:saws1:). You label yourself a Muslim and follow the teachings of Islam as described in the Qur'an and Sunnah.

People these days are too concerned with labelling themselves as one thing or the other with each group claiming to be more righteous and closer to Allah than the other. The reality is these are all just names and imaginary boundaries that are far removed from Islam.

For instance, why don't Sufis focus on all aspects of Islam and follow the religion wholly and completely rather than making a mockery of one act of worship? The same goes for all other groups and sects.

If anybody here is offended by the above then the problem is with you. Not with anyone else.
erm, here's a question for you.....why do non sufis love to blow themselves up at sufi shrines dedicates to sufi saints and kill scores of people as well as desecrate graves?
 
erm, here's a question for you.....why do non sufis love to blow themselves up at sufi shrines dedicates to sufi saints and kill scores of people as well as desecrate graves?

I don’t know the answer to that question. Unfortunately the “non-Sufi’s” in question have so far appeared to be unavailable for comment.

As I’ve said previously if you’re offended by my post then the problem is with you and you alone.

I’m sure you’re aware of the following:

1) the impermissibility of creating shrines (whether these are dedicated to Sufis or not is irrelevant)
2) the impermissibility of believing in shrines as a source of blessing or to attribute them with any form of divinity
3) Allah’s command to unite and His prohibition of disunity

Let’s not go round and round in circles about this issue.
 
All sufis are not bad. Have you studied some books of righteous sufis e.g. Sh Abdul Qadir Jilani r.a.?

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Tasawwuf or sufisim or zuhd is the essential part of human life though but some bad sufis have stagmatized it. Plz see this link.https://www.deoband.org/category/tasawwuf/


Thanks for the link
I heard sufis worship Abdul Qadir JIlaanni
and islamqa.com allows calling upon angels...
 
sufism does not worship shrines. and there is a difference between "deviant sufism" and "sober sufism"
 
Thanks for the link I heard sufis worship Abdul Qadir JIlaanniand islamqa.com allows calling upon angels...
They are wrong. Plz specify the opinion of islamqa (preferably in English)
 
As-Salāmu ‘Alaykum

‘It is narrated on the authority of Abu Huraira that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: “Ask me (about matters pertaining to religion), but they (the Companions of the Holy Prophet) were too much overawed out of profound respect for him to ask him (anything).

‘In the meanwhile a man came there, and sat near his knees and said: “Messenger of Allah, what is al-lslam”?

‘To which he (the Holy Prophet) replied: “You must not associate anything with Allah, and establish prayer, pay the poor-rate (Zakat) and observe (the fasts) of Ramadan”.

‘He said: You (have) told the truth. He (again) said: “Messenger of Allah, what is al-Iman (the faith)”?

‘He (the Holy Prophet) said: “That you affirm your faith in Allah, His angels, His Books, His meeting, His Apostles, and that you believe in Resurrection and that you believe in Qadr (Divine Decree) in all its entirety”.

‘He (the inquirer) said: “You (have) told the truth. He (again) said: “Messenger of Allah, what is al-Ihsan”?

‘Upon this he (the Holy Prophet) said: “(Al-Ihsan implies) that you fear Allah as if you are seeing Him, and though you see Him not, verily He is seeing you”.

‘He (the inquirer) said: “You (have) told the truth”. He (the inquirer) said: “When shall be the hour (of Doom)”?

‘(Upon this) he (the Holy Prophet said:

‘“The one who is being asked about it is no better informed than the inquirer himself. I, however, narrate some of its signs (and these are): when you see a slave (woman) giving birth to her master - that is one of the signs of (Doom); when you see barefooted, naked, deaf and dumb (ignorant and foolish persons) as the rulers of the earth - that is one of the signs of the Doom. And when you see the shepherds of black camels exult in buildings - that is one of the signs of Doom. The (Doom) is one of the five things (wrapped) in the unseen. No one knows them except Allah”.

‘Then (the Holy Prophet) recited (the following verse): " Verily Allah! with Him alone is the knowledge of the hour and He it is Who sends down the rain and knows that which is in the wombs and no person knows whatsoever he shall earn on morrow and a person knows not in whatsoever land he shall die. Verily Allah is Knowing, Aware.”

‘He (the narrator, Abu Huraira) said: “Then the person stood up and (made his way). The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: “Bring him back to me”.

‘He was searched for, but they (the Companions of the Holy Prophet) could not find him. The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) thereupon said: “He was Jibreel and he wanted to teach you (things pertaining to religion) when you did not ask them yourselves”.

(Muslim: Book 001, Number 0006). See also: Muslim: Book 001, Number 0004; and Bukhari: Volume 1, Book 2, Number 47.

From this Hadith we see that Islam is a tree with three major branches:

Islam - Submissions to the Will of Allāh (Subḥānahu ūta'āla), especially concerning what is right or wrong, halal or haram. This branch is the preserve of the jurists.

Iman – Faith. Belief in One God; in His Angels; in His Prophets; in His Books; in the Day of Judgement and so on. This branch is the preserve of the theologians.

Ihsan – Remembrance of Allāh (Subḥānahu ūta'āla); righteousness, self-realisation and so on. This branch is the preserve of those who practice Tasawwuf.

There are people - especially in the West - who call themselves ‘Sufis’ but are not Muslims. And there are Muslims who call themselves ‘Sufis’ but whose practices are - to say the least - suspect. A true follower of Tasawwuf knows that the shari‘a and ‘aqida of Islam are paramount. They know this…….and they act accordingly. One who does not act in this way, and yet pretends to be a Sufi, is like one who walks through a hospital wearing a white coat, with a stethoscope around his neck, trying desperately to convince everyone that he is a doctor. A real doctor is something else.

It is clear from the Hadith that the practise of Tasawwuf (living in the remembrance of Allāh (Subḥānahu ūta'āla) was the norm among the Prophet (sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam) and his Companions, even though the term ‘Tasawwuf’, like many other Islamic disciplines, was not known to them. It was, however, very much in use during the period of the four great Imams of the Maḏāhib. This is what they had to say about it:

‘If it were not for two years, I would have perished. For two years I accompanied Hazrat Jafer as-Sadiq (R.A) and I acquired the spiritual knowledge that made me a knower in the Way (i.e. Sufism).’
(Reported of Imam Abu Hanifa: ‘Ad-Durr Al-Mukhthar’; Volume 1, page 43).

‘Whoever studies jurisprudence and does not study Sufism will be corrupted. Whoever studies Sufism and does not study Jurisprudence will become a heretic. Whoever combines both will reach the truth.’ (Imam Malik: ‘Kashf Al-Khafa Wa Muzid Al-Abas’; Volume 1, page 41).

‘I accompanied the Sufi people and I received from them three kinds of knowledge: They taught me how to speak. They taught me how to treat people with leniency and a soft heart. They guided me in the ways of Sufism.’ (Imam Shafi: ‘Tanwir Al-Qulub’; page 405).

‘O my son you have to sit with the Sufis, because they are like a fountain of knowledge. They recite the remembrance of Allah (S.W.T) in their hearts. They are ascetics and they have the most spiritual power……………………… I do not know any people better than them.’ (Imam Ahmad bin Hanbal, advising his son: ‘Ghiza Al-Albab’; Volume 1, page 120).

And what of other scholars?

‘I knew it to be true that the Sufis are the seekers in Allah's Way. Their conduct is the best of conduct. Their way is the best of ways. Their manners are the most sanctified. They have purified their hearts from other than Allah and they have made them as pathways for rivers to run receiving knowledge of the Divine Presence.’ (Imam Ghazali: ‘Al-Munqidh Min Ad-Dalal’; page 131).

‘The specification of the Ways of the Sufis are five: To keep the Presence of Allah (S.W.T) in your heart in public and in private. To follow the Sunnah of the Prophet (S.A.W) by action and speech.
To keep away from dependence on people. To be happy with what Allah (S.W.T) gives you, even if it is little. To always refer your matters to Allah (S.W.T) Almighty and Exalted.’ (Imam Nawawi: ‘Al-Maqasid At-Tawhid’; page 20).

‘Sufism appeared in the 1st century of Islam and it received tremendous honour. It purified the self, straightened the conduct and gave knowledge to people from the wisdom and secrets of the Divine Presence.’ (Muhammad Abduh: ‘Majallat Al Muslim’; page 24).

‘The Sufis initiate people in Oneness and sincerity in following the Sunnah of the Prophet (S.A.W), in repentance from their sins and in avoidance of every disobedience to Allah, Almighty and Exalted. Their guides encourage them to move in the way of perfect Love of Allah.’ (Abul Hasan Ali An-Nadwi: ‘Muslims in India’; pages 140-146).
‘Sufism is a reality whose signs are the love of Allah and the love of the Prophet (S.A.W), where one absents oneself for their sake and one is annihilated from anything other than them. It instructs us how to follow in the footsteps of the Prophet (S.A.W)……………The Shariah and Sufism; what is the similitude of the two? They are like the body and the soul. The body is the external knowledge, the Shariah, and the spirit is the internal knowledge.’ (Abul Ala Mawdudi: ‘Mabadi Al Islam’; page 17).

It is clear from the above that Tasawwuf is very much a part of Islam.

My son is a murid in the Shadhili tariqa, and has been one for around twelve years. All members of this tariqa follow one of the four Sunni Maḏāhib; as well as one of the two schools of tenets of faith, Ash‘ari or Maturidi. My son is of the Maliki; and follows the Ash‘ari school in ‘aqida. Like all Shadhili murids he does not take his din from those who are not Imams, especially not from oriental-ists or authors without a traditional Islamic education at the hands of the tradition’s sheikhs.

I hope this helps.
I love it... great article. Thk you bro.
 
I don’t know the answer to that question. Unfortunately the “non-Sufi’s” in question have so far appeared to be unavailable for comment.As I’ve said previously if you’re offended by my post then the problem is with you and you alone. I’m sure you’re aware of the following:1) the impermissibility of creating shrines (whether these are dedicated to Sufis or not is irrelevant)2) the impermissibility of believing in shrines as a source of blessing or to attribute them with any form of divinity3) Allah’s command to unite and His prohibition of disunityLet’s not go round and round in circles about this issue.
extremists of both sides are wrong
 
https://islamqa.info/en/181206

I read that answer so I thought whats the differance between calling upon jinn

if anyone can explain to me otherwise I would be thankful

but from what I understand in that answer is that he is allowing to say "oh slaves of Allaah help me (the angels) when lost

I stick to quraan since quran is against all such practices....

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I seek Allaah's forgiveness I didnt understand it right

ISLAMQA.COM IS CALLING THE HADITH WEAK AND A LIE SO FORGIVE ME...concerning calling on angels...

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ISLAMQA.COM DID NOT SAY CALLING ON ANGELS IS ALLOWED IT WAS MY FAULT I UNDERSTOOD THE HADITH WRONG SINCE IT WAS A WEAK HADITH...
 
https://islamqa.info/en/181206I read that answer so I thought whats the differance between calling upon jinnif anyone can explain to me otherwise I would be thankfulbut from what I understand in that answer is that he is allowing to say "oh slaves of Allaah help me (the angels) when lostI stick to quraan since quran is against all such practices....- - - Updated - - -I seek Allaah's forgiveness I didnt understand it rightISLAMQA.COM IS CALLING THE HADITH WEAK AND A LIE SO FORGIVE ME...concerning calling on angels...- - - Updated - - -ISLAMQA.COM DID NOT SAY CALLING ON ANGELS IS ALLOWED IT WAS MY FAULT I UNDERSTOOD THE HADITH WRONG SINCE IT WAS A WEAK HADITH...
according to this mawqoof hadith someone who has lost his way can seek the help of angels who're appointed to help the people........
 
according to this mawqoof hadith someone who has lost his way can seek the help of angels who're appointed to help the people........

In the other answer it says its shirk...

https://islamqa.info/en/132642 here it says its shirk and anyone who calls to other Than Allaah is shirk

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Listen im mentally ill so dont take advice from me my understanding is a bit disturbed at times unless someone repeats the advice at least 3 times...memory problems...
 
In the other answer it says its shirk...https://islamqa.info/en/132642 here it says its shirk and anyone who calls to other Than Allaah is shirk- - - Updated - - -Listen im mentally ill so dont take advice from me my understanding is a bit disturbed at times unless someone repeats the advice at least 3 times...memory problems...
plz see the link again and read it carefully.
 
Fanatic followers of 2 specific groups are afflicted with either saint mania or shirk phobia respectively and both are wrong. The former group prostrates before graves and considers ''believing in saints'' as the essential tenet of their sect whereas latter believes in demolition of shrines by force, exhuming and desecrating dead bodies of pious people.
 
Fanatic followers of 2 specific groups are afflicted with either saint mania or shirk phobia respectively and both are wrong. The former group prostrates before graves and considers ''believing in saints'' as the essential tenet of their sect whereas latter believes in demolition of shrines by force, exhuming and desecrating dead bodies of pious people.

Sufism was not always associated with tomb-veneration. The latter is a popular expression of "folk Islam" but it has nothing to do with Sufism in its essence. Sufism is just that dimension of Islam which is concerned with purification of the soul and establishing a living relationship with Allah. Some of the most zealous Unitarians who condemn tomb-veneration and other polytheistic and superstitious practices prevalent among the Muslims today are from a Sufi background themselves, such as the Panjpir movement, known as Ishaat Tawhid was-Sunnah. I am also influenced by this movement.

The real problem is not Sufism but folk-religion which has become confused with Sufism. There are also many fake Sufi guides out there who do not observe the strictures of Shari'a. True Sufism has to be in accordance with Shari'a and Sunna otherwise it is fake. It is tragically common for many so-called "Salafis" to equate Sufis with Quburis (grave-worshipers).
 
Sufism was not always associated with tomb-veneration. The latter is a popular expression of "folk Islam" but it has nothing to do with Sufism in its essence. Sufism is just that dimension of Islam which is concerned with purification of the soul and establishing a living relationship with Allah. Some of the most zealous Unitarians who condemn tomb-veneration and other polytheistic and superstitious practices prevalent among the Muslims today are from a Sufi background themselves, such as the Panjpir movement, known as Ishaat Tawhid was-Sunnah. I am also influenced by this movement.The real problem is not Sufism but folk-religion which has become confused with Sufism. There are also many fake Sufi guides out there who do not observe the strictures of Shari'a. True Sufism has to be in accordance with Shari'a and Sunna otherwise it is fake. It is tragically common for many so-called "Salafis" to equate Sufis with Quburis (grave-worshipers).
No, it's not merely folk Islam. Even the scholars participate in annual gatherings called Urs at shrines. They, being the part of unislamic practices, don't teach the folk what real sufism is,
 
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No, it's not merely folk Islam. Even the scholars participate in annual gatherings called Urs at shrines. They, being the part of unislamic practices, knowingly, don't teach the folk what real sufism is, if they truly distinguish both ways

No true Islamic scholar can participate in such un-Islamic activities. Surely they are not scholars of righteousness, but scholars of evil and corruption. The Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم emphatically prohibited construction of such shrines. And celebrating Urs has nothing to do with Islam either, it is just a way for the "shrine-keepers" i.e. Gaddi Nashins to make profit from their custody of the idolatrous shrines.

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It is really the Gaddi Nashins and Sajjada Nashins which have ruined the reputation of Sufism and make many Muslims think that Sufism is all about tomb-veneration and other polytheistic customs. There is no such concept as "Gaddi Nashini" in Islam, it was invented as the equivalent of Brahminism. In Hindus, a priest who carries out the rituals at the Mandir (temple) must be from the Brahmin caste. That is similar to how the Gaddi Nashin inherits custody of the Mazaar (shrine) from his father and then organizes the annual "Urs" which becomes a source of profit for him. It is quite tragic that the mainstream "religious leadership" of the Muslim world is so corrupt.
 
No true Islamic scholar can participate in such un-Islamic activities. Surely they are not scholars of righteousness, but scholars of evil and corruption. The Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم emphatically prohibited construction of such shrines. And celebrating Urs has nothing to do with Islam either, it is just a way for the "shrine-keepers" i.e. Gaddi Nashins to make profit from their custody of the idolatrous shrines.- - - Updated - - -It is really the Gaddi Nashins and Sajjada Nashins which have ruined the reputation of Sufism and make many Muslims think that Sufism is all about tomb-veneration and other polytheistic customs. There is no such concept as "Gaddi Nashini" in Islam, it was invented as the equivalent of Brahminism. In Hindus, a priest who carries out the rituals at the Mandir (temple) must be from the Brahmin caste. That is similar to how the Gaddi Nashin inherits custody of the Mazaar (shrine) from his father and then organizes the annual "Urs" which becomes a source of profit for him. It is quite tragic that the mainstream "religious leadership" of the Muslim world is so corrupt.
I know all these things as I belong to India. Lets see this aspect of issue mentioned in this link https://islamictextinstitute.co.za/...eceased-fata-by-the-mufti-of-egypt-ali-jumua/
 
I know all these things as I belong to India. Lets see this aspect of issue mentioned in this link https://islamictextinstitute.co.za/...eceased-fata-by-the-mufti-of-egypt-ali-jumua/

This is a totally wrong Fatwa for a number of reasons:

1. The Holy Quraan never endorses the action of those who built a place of worship over the youths of the Kahf. It only mentions that for information not to encourage such behavior.

2. The fatwa states that the Hadith which curses Jews and Christians for building places of worship/prostration over the graves of their Prophets means it is forbidden to worship the actual grave or inmate buried in the grave. Yet the Jews and Christians admit that they do not worship the actual grave or the person buried in the grave since they worship God only, yet the Prophet Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم still cursed them.

3. There is no reason for Jews and Christians to be cursed but Muslims to be blessed for the exact same action. Why the inconsistency?

4. The Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم said: وَاعْلَمُوا أَنَّ شِرَارَ النَّاسِ الَّذِينَ يَتَّخِذُونَ الْقُبُورَ مَسَاجِدَ
"Know that the worst of mankind are those who take the graves as places of worship" (Musnad Ahmad)


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This is supposedly the tomb of the Prophet Joshua son of Nun عليه السلام. So the Prophet Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم cursed the Jews for building this

but the so-called "Muslims" are blessed for building this

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The tomb of a Sufi saint, not even a Prophet!
 

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