the difference between islam and christianity ....

Moss said:
Translation errors are bound to occur, I mean gospels are not exactly extensively protected from eroor like Hadith is in Islam. But generally it fits with islam.

But i do not confess i don't know that much about this Gospel.

1) When was it found?
2) When is it dated back to?
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It is obvious that Muslims will be very selective in what they choose to believe from any Gospel. If it matches with the Quran it's a fact if not it's been tampered with..

Take a look at the links provided here in this thread or google it..if your interested in because if I link here or paste anything concerning the scriptures of B...I'll probably get warned again...being has the G of B...really goes to town on Mohammed and that isn't allowed in this forum.
 
nimrod said:
Muslim Knight, to say "produce proof" is rather pointless in this type of subjective discourse. It becomes a study in probabilities after the fact.
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It's not pointless. It's crucial to one's faith because obviously both Christians and Muslims want to be saved and admitted to Paradise after their death. Pointless if you say you're a Muslim or Christian and you WANT to go to hell.

You can’t offer “proof” nor can I.
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If you can't offer proof then don't say something like this;

Nicola said:
born again Christians are guarenteed salvation..Muslims are not
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Because in any court of law your dissertation would be thrown out in less than 2 minutes and the judge will be angry with you because you've wasted 2 minutes of his life.


Which is harder to do, write a book based on more than 44 different authors and have it fit together, or to have a book based on a single author?
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If you're implying that on the Bible and the Quran; No Muslims say Muhammad wrote the Quran! In contrast to that, no Christian will deny that the Bible is the culmination of works of several authors, in addition, some were unknown authors. It could have been anyone. Hell, it could've been the Devil himself!

So if you request proof, then offer logical convincing proof in favor of Islam over Mormonism.
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I was not the one who claim to be guaranteed salvation. The Muslim stand is that one is saved by the grace of Allah.

Muslim Knight, show me a scanned copy of your ticket signed by God, I have been wondering what they look like.
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Since Nicola made the statement it is fitting that the burden of proof rests with her. I make no claim of holding such "ticket". I'm only saved by God's grace. My contention is that if someone behave badly and blaspheme against God, it is not fitting that person be guaranteed salvation.

Muslim Knight, exactly who was the apostle that saw the vision of the sheet being let down from heaven?
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Don't know what you're referring about. Sorry.
 
Panatella said:
Exactly. This is the exact point that any athiest will present any member of any faith. Christians can't prove this. Muslims can't prove their faith is right. No religion can. That is what faith is.
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I was responding to this;

Nicola said:
born again Christians are guarenteed salvation..Muslims are not
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It's implying that Muslims will go to hell. If Christians can't prove that they will most definitely go to heaven, it would be wise to refrain from saying it. Otherwise, provide proof because we Muslims would also be most certainly like to go to heaven.
 
HeiGou said:
Actually I think I have had this discussion with Ansar Al-Adl. He did not forgive them all. He gave orders for several people to be killed - not for insulting him per se, but for propaganda against Islam and Muslims which often happened to insult him. Some of those people he forgave. Some he did not.
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Precisely! Muhammad (saw) forgave people who insulted him personally, but as for those who attacked Islam, those were dealt with according to God's will and laws.
 
Panatella said:
Exactly. This is the exact point that any athiest will present any member of any faith. Christians can't prove this. Muslims can't prove their faith is right. No religion can. That is what faith is.
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Actually all the miracles of the Quran prove that Islam is the correct religion, but those who chose to disbelieve ignore it.
 
Muslim Knight said:
I was responding to this;



It's implying that Muslims will go to hell. If Christians can't prove that they will most definitely go to heaven, it would be wise to refrain from saying it. Otherwise, provide proof because we Muslims would also be most certainly like to go to heaven.
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But doesn't your Holy Book say the same thing about non believers that Christians will be thrown into hell

Do you believe Jesus should save people who do not believe in him...who are not covered with the protection of his precious blood?

Jesus tells us if we abide in him...we are saved from Gods wrath on judgement day..that is our guarentee.
I think Nimrod mentioned about if we are saved are we always saved..

What the bible tells us is born-again Christians can lose their salvation...we must abide in Christ always.. else we will lose our salvation and will be thrown into hell along with all other non believers.
 
Nicola said:
But doesn't your Holy Book say the same thing about non believers that Christians will be thrown into hell

Do you believe Jesus should save people who do not believe in him...who are not covered with the protection of his precious blood?

Jesus tells us if we abide in him...we are saved from Gods wrath on judgement day..that is our guarentee.
I think Nimrod mentioned about if we are saved are we always saved..

What the bible tells us is born-again Christians can lose their salvation...we must abide in Christ always.. else we will lose our salvation and will be thrown into hell along with all other non believers.
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why do you believe that jesus (P) is the son of God? is God not strong enough to do things without having to have a son to help Him?

why does jesus say "my father is greater than i"? If God is all-powerful then why is His power divided into 3?
 
marge1 said:
why do you believe that jesus (P) is the son of God? is God not strong enough to do things without having to have a son to help Him?

why does jesus say "my father is greater than i"? If God is all-powerful then why is His power divided into 3?
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I believe Jesus is God in human form
their is no division..between the three.
 
Hey.


You don't have to post the link, but can you summarise the story? O yeah, with evidence from reliable sources too please.
 
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That was because i asked about the original scriptures which were revealed to Jesus, i wasn't reffering to the barnabus because that was created 1500years after Jesus (peace be upon him.)
 

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