im going to leave it what alpha dude said, but in my defense, i want to say:
please teach that to Ummu Sufyaan. I am only playing a devil's advocate here.
to address your barrage of baseless allegations.
Provide me evidence were i gone against the quran and sunnah in any of my relies? provide me evidence from any of my posts where (whether it is in this thread or elsewhere) i have indicated that im a feminist or im a supporter of feminism. tell me where i have said for sisters to disobey their husbands and/or where have i said for sisters to remain hijabless, etc (as is the character of feminists)
i have told you previously that im none of this, but it seemed to have gone unnoticed.
im going to ignore your other cunning and cleverally worded quotes, because i know you have worded them the way you have, on the presumption that they will be reacted to in a certain way, and hence have myself made to look stupid. i refuse to fall for your deception and even more have myself vilified and mocked at because my mindset isn’t in conformation to someone else’s.
Please don’t think I was born yesterday.
but these 2, i cant ignore.
I am sure if I apply your definition of chauvinism to Umer (ra) then he certainly appears to be so! He finds it necessary for women to draw veil on themselves but does not feel that men should rather do that?! If that is not chauvinism, as you define it, then I do not know what it is.
But of course, Umar (ra) was far above what you label as the disgusting chauvinism of the men of past and present (mine specially).
Patronization doesn’t go down well with me, neither does putting words in my mouth, so your "method" holds no weight, use another one.
please read the whole hadth and incident to that before you accuse me of such rubbish. he found it necessary because he felt protective over the women, which is lot more then i can say towards some of the men of today who have twisted this meaning to suit their desires.
as for your comments on women not raising scholars, I’ll have you know that it is the very man you have quoted in your signature, that is named/attributed to his mother. "taymiyyah" is a girl’s name. also, the greatest of ulamaa eg imam al-buhkari praise and acknowledge that it was their mothers who encouraged them towards knowledge. there is also a saying in arabic that goes: أم تصنع أمة (Ummun tasna3o ummah)- a mother builds a nation.
As for your comments regarding women chasing a medicine degree because it is easier for her then jihad, his one i also cant ignore. go take this up with the sahaabiyaat who used to provide medical aid to the soldiers. and tell me where are the men who have willingly left their degrees to fight?
