Malsidabym
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Same stuff I always hear, christians say they have suffered at the hands of others, jews say they have suffered, muslims say they have suffered. blah. blah. blah. The point is, no group is innocent. All races and religions have killed and oppressed. Any person to deny that is a waste of time to talk to.
Many(I admit not all), muslims today have a tendancy towards violence. If muslims feel insulted, some (not all) will hold violent protest. The list I presented earlier was a lengthy example of individuals commiting violent acts toward others in the name of religion. Not states. So please don't ramble on about how Israel did this, how china did that, or the U.S. is doing this. I agree. And the countries should pay for thier crimes. The list contains examples of individuals killing individuals for different beliefs. The truth is though, the common thread is killing in the name of islam. I don't believe allah would approve of killing for the simple reason of difference of opinion. This evil comes from the seeds of hatred, anger and intolorence of difference of opinion. These seeds grow very quickly. I take Andaraawus' reaction to my statements as an example. Rather than convince me that I am wrong, he chose to cover his ears(figuratively speaking), and ridicule what was said. Not the slightest inclination to rational discussion. His hostility was immediate. And I expected it. He proved my point. It was a test and he failed.
You can say "yes, but you were an antagonist". True, but I've pushed sikhs, christians, and others in the same way, and rarely encounter hostility. Usually they think of what was said and try to disprove it(not always with success). Say the same thing to a small group of muslims, and you are sure to find at least one angry bigot. Now I am not saying all muslims, I am saying some, but more likely than with other religions. Please, I beg of you prove me wrong. But seeing is believing. We all are guilty to some degree of intolerance, but every human should feel the responsibility to at least try to be tolerent of other views, and if you disagree, then explain why. The Quran 3.134 refers to Allah being pleased with those that restrain thier anger and pardon men. If that daily task is not obeyed, than soon that anger seed grows to hate, and then what? I am willing to change my view, but it would take convincing. If you don't care then don't worry about it. But for now, what I see is a religion that has many members killing other individuals in the world today. Please, if you are going to ramble about the U.S., Israel, Britain, France, or any other countries atrocities, save it. That is not what I am saying. I said individuals.
Attack armies, not people. "But they attack our people", individuals are not attacking your people, armies are.
Hey Andaraawus, the definition of bigot is as follows, and if you can control your anger long enough to absorb the words, you might notice that this actually discribes you.
Bigot; a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions
Many(I admit not all), muslims today have a tendancy towards violence. If muslims feel insulted, some (not all) will hold violent protest. The list I presented earlier was a lengthy example of individuals commiting violent acts toward others in the name of religion. Not states. So please don't ramble on about how Israel did this, how china did that, or the U.S. is doing this. I agree. And the countries should pay for thier crimes. The list contains examples of individuals killing individuals for different beliefs. The truth is though, the common thread is killing in the name of islam. I don't believe allah would approve of killing for the simple reason of difference of opinion. This evil comes from the seeds of hatred, anger and intolorence of difference of opinion. These seeds grow very quickly. I take Andaraawus' reaction to my statements as an example. Rather than convince me that I am wrong, he chose to cover his ears(figuratively speaking), and ridicule what was said. Not the slightest inclination to rational discussion. His hostility was immediate. And I expected it. He proved my point. It was a test and he failed.
You can say "yes, but you were an antagonist". True, but I've pushed sikhs, christians, and others in the same way, and rarely encounter hostility. Usually they think of what was said and try to disprove it(not always with success). Say the same thing to a small group of muslims, and you are sure to find at least one angry bigot. Now I am not saying all muslims, I am saying some, but more likely than with other religions. Please, I beg of you prove me wrong. But seeing is believing. We all are guilty to some degree of intolerance, but every human should feel the responsibility to at least try to be tolerent of other views, and if you disagree, then explain why. The Quran 3.134 refers to Allah being pleased with those that restrain thier anger and pardon men. If that daily task is not obeyed, than soon that anger seed grows to hate, and then what? I am willing to change my view, but it would take convincing. If you don't care then don't worry about it. But for now, what I see is a religion that has many members killing other individuals in the world today. Please, if you are going to ramble about the U.S., Israel, Britain, France, or any other countries atrocities, save it. That is not what I am saying. I said individuals.
Attack armies, not people. "But they attack our people", individuals are not attacking your people, armies are.
Hey Andaraawus, the definition of bigot is as follows, and if you can control your anger long enough to absorb the words, you might notice that this actually discribes you.
Bigot; a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions