The sudden death

Since people are getting a bit tetchy, feel free not to answer this, but I am genuinely interested and i'm not just trying to stir it up.

I thought that the words said were supposed to hold true for all people for all time, otherwise why would people still be expected to follow it, and why would all people be judged in the final days... but it sounds like you're excusing it because of when it was revealed.
Yes while there may have been a small group of arabs who were following the teachings to the letter back in the day the whole rest of the world was acting as it always has done and most of these prophecies, particularly regarding behaviour, could have been fulfilled by non-muslims at any time in history.

I wouldn't mind some serious opinions on this, thanks

To me this doesnt make alot of sense to be honest. It does hold true for all people for all time, but can you understand that the day of judgement comes only ones?

Are you trying to say that for each nation there should be a different end of the world and a day of judgement? These signs only come towards the end of the world.

What i ment by 1400 years ago, is that these predictions are spot on with todays reality. While most of these predicitons were not even occuring back then.
 
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@ lillaahi - ^ Be Patient my brother.... for if you will you will surely reunite with him in Paradise inshaaAllaah..AMeen... :)
 
I think you should establish this claim. Provide evidence. till then i think its very fair to call the claim BS, reality seems to contradict it.

I can provide evidence from now till tommorow afternoon, but your going to find a way to question it (even if u had 2 make things up).

So I am going to ask you, what kind of evidence is going to satisfy you?
 
Anybody name a year. Any year you like in history.
I can pretty much garuntee that I can point to all the end of the world signs happening in that period.
Call it a challenge.

Jesus said that before the last of the people who he was speaking to at the time died, (his diciples)They would see him come again in full power and glory bringing in the end of the world.

When the Muslims took Constantinople, The anti-christ would appear and all the end of the world stuff would happen:
Book 37, Number 4281:
Narrated Mu'adh ibn Jabal:

The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: The flourishing state of Jerusalem will be when Yathrib is in ruins, the ruined state of Yathrib will be when the great war comes, the outbreak of the great war will be at the conquest of Constantinople and the conquest of Constantinople when the Dajjal (Antichrist) comes forth. He (the Prophet) struck his thigh or his shoulder with his hand and said: This is as true as you are here or as you are sitting (meaning Mu'adh ibn Jabal).


But it kind of diddnt happen. At all, and that was centuries and centuries ago.
Either the Anti-christ is turning up fashionably late, or he's just not coming.
 
To me this doesnt make alot of sense to be honest. It does hold true for all people for all time, but can you understand that the day of judgement comes only ones?

Are you trying to say that for each nation there should be a different end of the world and a day of judgement? These signs only come towards the end of the world.
Yes I understand it comes once and no I'm not saying there should be a different end for each.

[/QUOTE=Hamada;923143]What i ment by 1400 years ago, is that these predictions are spot on with todays reality. While most of these predicitons were not even occuring back then.[/QUOTE]There were millions of people on earth at that time, while these things might not have been done by the people in the

For example look at the Roman Empire, we have fairly extensive records of activity from back then and you can see that adultery, public fornication, murder, intoxicants, greed, public exposure, arrogance, lies, indulgence, wars etc. were commonplace and continue to be so. If you have information that shows the rest of the world was behaving nicely during this time and at any time since then, I'd love to see it.
 
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@ lillaahi - ^ Be Patient my brother.... for if you will you will surely reunite with him in Paradise inshaaAllaah..AMeen... :)

insha'llah,
what do you felt about this? If you died because of someone... or wait if someone died because of you, I hope you can be happy and patient, insha'llah.
 
^ Allah knows best why he died.

unless you have proof, you'll be more at rest if you didnt assume :)
 
it do happens.. this is not strange, believe me you may also harm yourself because of someone.

So straightforward answer my previous question, so that I can be at rest.
 
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^ DID I SAY HAPPY?!?!

I said PATIENT...and his DEATH was written...he would've died if u visited him or not...either way....it was written
 
Anyways, no onez gonna die because of you.

Motto of a Muslim's life is:
inna salaati wa nusuki wa mahyaaya wa mamaati lillahi Rabbil'alamin
Verily my worship, my sacrifice, my life and my death is for Allah the Lord of the worlds.
 
I think you should establish this claim. Provide evidence. till then i think its very fair to call the claim BS, reality seems to contradict it.

I say the same about evolution:

"I think you should establish this claim. Provide evidence. i think its very fair to call the claim BS, reality seems to contradict it."

:D
 
I can provide evidence from now till tommorow afternoon, but your going to find a way to question it (even if u had 2 make things up).

So I am going to ask you, what kind of evidence is going to satisfy you?

i think it would be pretty easy for you to show that none of these were occuring at the time you said the were. Unless you were making things up.
 

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