Threat of Hell, Promise of Heavan

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

well yea if ur a Muslim,you sin repeatedly, and do not repent you will go to hell, but not permanently because u hadnt left the fold of Islam.

 

[Woodrow]

Hey,



What I find interesting is that in Islam we are also told that most of us will be going to hell as well, but we won't remain there forever. Even with this there are still many nonmuslims converting. So in Islam, hell is not made just to be a 'threat' it is also a promise for every sinner whether muslim or nonmuslim, just as paradise is made to be a reward for every believer. There are justifications for each.

As creations, our Creator made it our right to know where we will end up in the end and at least what kind of rewards/punishments we will recieve so that we won't be oblivious on the day of judgement with excuses such as, "well we didn't know what we would be getting ourselves into, its not our fault, you didn't tell us." It's a warning.

Without some type of punishment that will be promised, will be living life on earth to its "fullest" with other intentions than for the intention of pleasing their Lord (partying, drinking, sex, etc.) without many limits in life.

Paradise and Hell, I would say, are probably equally mentioned in Islam. Both are extremes that we've never witnessed before. One is a beautiful, exotic, unimaginable reward, and the other is a terrible, painful, as well as unimaginable punishment.

If you're interested about the descriptions of hell and paradise check these links out:

http://www.islamicboard.com/akhira-hereafter/30767-descriptions-paradise-islam.html

http://www.islamicboard.com/akhira-hereafter/30771-descriptions-hell-islam.html

peace

What I find interesting is that in Islam we are also told that most of us will be going to hell as well,

If I rcall what you are refering to is that Islam will divide into sect 72 I beleive and that only the followers of one will go to Heaven. But we are not told how many will be in each sect. Let us look at the extreme scenarios.

Suppose 71 of the sects have only one follower in each and the 72 nd has all reamining Muslims and that is the right sect. Or the opposite one sect only has one member and that is the correct one.

I don't believe we have any Idea as to what percentage of Muslims will find Heaven.

 

[snakelegs]

But I am positive that what I believe is true! There is a difference.



[/B][/SIZE][/COLOR]That implys that you are not secure in your beliefs to believe something and then say that God only knows. Dont get me wrong, God is the only One that knows all. But to be convinced about something and then state something that implys insecurity shows that you are not fully convinced.

i understand that you are positive -heart and soul- that what you believe is true, but you cannot "prove" it to any one who doesn't accept the basic premise that the qur'an is the word of god. same for other holy books.

 

[جوري]

If I rcall what you are refering to is that Islam will divide into sect 72 I beleive and that only the followers of one will go to Heaven. But we are not told how many will be in each sect. Let us look at the extreme scenarios.

Suppose 71 of the sects have only one follower in each and the 72 nd has all reamining Muslims and that is the right sect. Or the opposite one sect only has one member and that is the correct one.

I don't believe we have any Idea as to what percentage of Muslims will find Heaven.

We are not standing at 71 sects now though are we? I mean this is an evolving thing -- sheik Mecca stated he believes there are 44 right now.… Ahmedis are a fairly recent (late 19th century into the twentieth) so-called Muslims in truth instilled by the Brits to wreak havoc and allow for British colonization and to misguide the people... I believe as the world progresses even more freakish sects will be born calling themselves Muslims but aren't ... and as promised Knowledge will die with people of knowledge ... in a sense that is the only thing keeping sectarianism at bay ... unfortunately not for long -- G-D save us from all these tribulations...

 

[Ibn Abi Ahmed]

56: 13. A multitude of those (foremost in the religion) will be from the first generations (who embraced Islam).
14. And a few of those (foremost) will be from the later time (generations).


56: 39. A multitude of those (on the Right Hand) will be from the first generation (who embraced Islam).
40. And a multitude of those (on the Right Hand) will be from the later times (generations).

 

[*charisma*]

I'm just wondering where is this stated? I haven't been told this, sounds scary

And there is none of you except he will come to it (to be exposed to the hell fire). This is upon your Lord an inevitability decreed. Then We will save those who feared Allah and leave the wrongdoers within it, on their knees. (19:71-72)

Allah will punish us for our sins, then we will be cleansed from them, afterwards we will meet in paradise inshallah. However, Allah is all-merciful subhanallah, so He could easily save us from the punishment of hell-fire if He wanted.

Also to add, we would be in the lowest level of hell, while the nonbelievers would be in the highest, so they will recieve more punishment. Still, one should repent while they are living in dunyaa, rather than wait till last minute and be punished by Allah.

fi aman Allah
w'salaam

 

[glo]

But I am positive that what I believe is true! There is a difference.

There is??? How so?
But I am absolutely positive that what I believe is true! :rollseyes

You are mistaken, Ahmed. Using superlatives to describe the level of your belief doesn't make it any better, bigger or truer!

[/B][/SIZE][/COLOR]That implys that you are not secure in your beliefs to believe something and then say that God only knows. Dont get me wrong, God is the only One that knows all. But to be convinced about something and then state something that implys insecurity shows that you are not fully convinced.

Please don't assume to know the sincerity and strength of my faith, Ahmed.

It doesn't imply that my belief is not secure at all!
It states that I believe God to be all-knowing and wise. I assume you may share that belief with me.

May God bless you abundantly

 

[*charisma*]

Assalamu Alaikum

If I rcall what you are refering to is that Islam will divide into sect 72 I beleive and that only the followers of one will go to Heaven. But we are not told how many will be in each sect. Let us look at the extreme scenarios.

Suppose 71 of the sects have only one follower in each and the 72 nd has all reamining Muslims and that is the right sect. Or the opposite one sect only has one member and that is the correct one.

I don't believe we have any Idea as to what percentage of Muslims will find Heaven.

ekhi, i was referring to the sinners, not quite those who are parts of sects. I meant that most of us will have a taste of hell-fire, but it won't be our eternal abode. I believe the only ones that will be granted paradise without trial are martyrs, and those who are too young or insane to be accountable. I will get some proof for that inshallah.

fi aman Allah
w'salaam

 

[*charisma*]

Hey,

i understand that you are positive -heart and soul- that what you believe is true, but you cannot "prove" it to any one who doesn't accept the basic premise that the qur'an is the word of god. same for other holy books.

The whole point of faith is to believe in what you don't see. Everyone is capable of having faith in something, religious-related or not. God can't be proven when it comes to science, because science is physical, that's it (compared to religion where it is emotional, mental, physical, and spiritual).

Even so, religion is not supposed to prove science, but the Quran has many scientific facts that couldn'tve been proven long ago anyways. If there were hard-core evidence with very explicate details in the time the Quran was revealed, many would reject Islam all together because NO ONE would understand what they were reading or what its on about.

YOu can't contradict religion with science because these are two different entities, but you can believe in both!

Even science can't prove anything sometimes, nor can everyone understand it no matter how logical it is. Religion is for everyone to understand and is easily understandable with logic.

peace

 

[Ibn Abi Ahmed]

And there is none of you except he will come to it (to be exposed to the hell fire). This is upon your Lord an inevitability decreed. Then We will save those who feared Allah and leave the wrongdoers within it, on their knees. (19:71-72)
w'salaam

Yeah, thats true. This is what Ibn Kathir said regarding these verses:

Everyone will be brought to Hell, then the Righteous will be saved

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Ibn Jarir reported from `Abdullah that he said concerning Allah's statement,

﴿وَإِن مِّنكُمْ إِلاَّ وَارِدُهَا﴾

(There is not one of you but will pass over it.) "The bridge over Hell is like the sharp edge of a sword. The first group to cross it will pass like a flash of lightning. The second group will pass like the wind. The third group will pass like the fastest horse. The fourth group will pass like the fastest cow. Then, the rest will pass while the angels will be saying, `O Allah save them, save them.' '' This narration has supporting narrations similar to it from the Prophet in the Two Sahihs and other collections as well. These narrations have been related by Anas, Abu Sa`id, Abu Hurayrah, Jabir and other Companions, may Allah be pleased with them all. Ahmad also recorded that Umm Mubashshar, the wife of Zayd bin Harithah, said, "The Messenger of Allah was in the house of Hafsah when he said,

«لَا يَدْخُلُ النَّارَ أَحَدٌ شَهِدَ بَدْرًا وَالْحُدَيْبِيَّة»

(No one who was present at the battles of Badr and Hudaybiyyah (of the Muslims) will enter into the Hellfire.) Then, Hafsah said, "Doesn't Allah say,

﴿وَإِن مِّنكُمْ إِلاَّ وَارِدُهَا﴾

(There is not one of you but will pass over it (Hell); ) The Messenger of Allah replied by reciting,

﴿ثُمَّ نُنَجِّى الَّذِينَ اتَّقَواْ﴾

(Then We shall save those who had Taqwa.) In the Two Sahihs there is a Hadith reported from Az-Zuhri, from Sa`id from Abu Hurayrah that the Messenger of Allah said,

«لَا يَمُوتُ لِأَحَدٍ مِنَ الْمُسْلِمِينَ ثَلَاثَةٌ مِنَ الْوَلَدِ تَمَسُّهُ النَّارُ إِلَّا تَحِلَّةَ الْقَسَم»

(No one of the Muslims who has had three children, who all died, will be touched by the Hellfire, except for an oath that must be fulfilled.) `Abdur-Rahman bin Zayd bin Aslam commented on Allah's statement,

﴿وَإِن مِّنكُمْ إِلاَّ وَارِدُهَا﴾

(There is not one of you but will pass over it; ) "The passing of the Muslims (over the Hellfire) means their passing over a bridge that is over it. But the passing of the idolators over the Hellfire refers to their admission to the Fire.'' As-Suddi reported from Murrah, from Ibn Mas`ud, that he said concerning Allah's statement,

﴿كَانَ عَلَى رَبِّكَ حَتْماً مَّقْضِيّاً﴾

(this is with your Lord; a Hatman decree.) "An oath that must be fulfilled.'' Mujahid said, "Hatman means preordainment.'' Ibn Jurayj said the same. Concerning Allah's statement,

﴿ثُمَّ نُنَجِّى الَّذِينَ اتَّقَواْ﴾

(Then We shall save those who had Taqwa. ) When all of the creatures passed over the Hellfire, and those disbelievers and the disobedient people who are destined to fall into it because of their disobedience, Allah will save the believers and the righteous people from it because of their deeds. Therefore, their passing over the bridge and their speed will be based upon their deeds that they did in this life. Then, the believers who performed major sins will be allowed intercession. The angels, the Prophets and the believers will all intercede. Thus, a large number of the sinners will be allowed to come out of Hell. The fire will have devoured much of their bodies, except the places of prostration on their faces. Their removal from the Hellfire will be due to the faith in their hearts. The first to come out will be he who has the weight of a Dinar of faith in his heart. Then, whoever has the next least amount after him. Then, whoever is next to that after him, and so forth. This will continue until the one who has the tiniest hint of faith in his heart, equal to the weight of an atom. Then, Allah will take out of the Fire whoever said "La ilaha illallah,'' even one day of his entire life, even if he never performed any good deed. After this, no one will remain in the Hellfire, except those it is obligatory upon to remain in the Hellfire forever. This has been reported in many authentic Hadiths from the Messenger of Allah . This is why Allah says,

﴿ثُمَّ نُنَجِّى الَّذِينَ اتَّقَواْ وَّنَذَرُ الظَّـلِمِينَ فِيهَا جِثِيّاً ﴾

(Then We shall save those who had Taqwa. And We shall leave the wrongdoers in it, Jithyya.)

﴿وَإِذَا تُتْلَى عَلَيْهِمْ ءَايَـتُنَا بِيِّنَـتٍ قَالَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُواْ لِلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُواْ أَىُّ الْفَرِيقَيْنِ خَيْرٌ مَّقَاماً وَأَحْسَنُ نَدِيّاً - وَكَمْ أَهْلَكْنَا قَبْلَهُمْ مِّن قَرْنٍ هُمْ أَحْسَنُ أَثَاثاً وَرِءْياً ﴾

(73. And when Our clear Ayat are recited to them, those who disbelieve say to those who believe: "Which of the two groups has the best dwellings and the finest Nadiyyan'') (74. And how many a generation have We destroyed before them, who were better in wealth, goods and outward appearance)

 

[Umar001]

Assalamu Aleykum Wa Rhametulah, Sister Charisma.

Thank you for your patience with me

And there is none of you except he will come to it (to be exposed to the hell fire). This is upon your Lord an inevitability decreed. Then We will save those who feared Allah and leave the wrongdoers within it, on their knees. (19:71-72)

Allah will punish us for our sins, then we will be cleansed from them, afterwards we will meet in paradise inshallah. However, Allah is all-merciful subhanallah, so He could easily save us from the punishment of hell-fire if He wanted.

Also to add, we would be in the lowest level of hell, while the nonbelievers would be in the highest, so they will recieve more punishment. Still, one should repent while they are living in dunyaa, rather than wait till last minute and be punished by Allah.

fi aman Allah
w'salaam

I would first just like to show the slight, slight difference in translation:

019.071
YUSUFALI: Not one of you but will pass over it: this is, with thy Lord, a Decree which must be accomplished.
PICKTHAL: There is not one of you but shall approach it. That is a fixed ordinance of thy Lord.
SHAKIR: And there is not one of you but shall come to it; this is an unavoidable decree of your Lord.

Source

Under the Title of Everyone will be brought to Hell, then the Righteous will be saved In Tafsir Ibn Kathir it says:

Ibn Jarir reported from `Abdullah that he said concerning Allah's statement,


﴿وَإِن مِّنكُمْ إِلاَّ وَارِدُهَا﴾


(There is not one of you but will pass over it.) "The bridge over Hell is like the sharp edge of a sword. The first group to cross it will pass like a flash of lightning. The second group will pass like the wind. The third group will pass like the fastest horse. The fourth group will pass like the fastest cow. Then, the rest will pass while the angels will be saying, `O Allah save them, save them.' '' This narration has supporting narrations similar to it from the Prophet in the Two Sahihs and other collections as well. These narrations have been related by Anas, Abu Sa`id, Abu Hurayrah, Jabir and other Companions, may Allah be pleased with them all. Ahmad also recorded that Umm Mubashshar, the wife of Zayd bin Harithah, said, "The Messenger of Allah was in the house of Hafsah when he said,


«لَا يَدْخُلُ النَّارَ أَحَدٌ شَهِدَ بَدْرًا وَالْحُدَيْبِيَّة»


(No one who was present at the battles of Badr and Hudaybiyyah (of the Muslims) will enter into the Hellfire.) Then, Hafsah said, "Doesn't Allah say,


﴿وَإِن مِّنكُمْ إِلاَّ وَارِدُهَا﴾


(There is not one of you but will pass over it (Hell) The Messenger of Allah replied by reciting,


﴿ثُمَّ نُنَجِّى الَّذِينَ اتَّقَواْ﴾


(Then We shall save those who had Taqwa.) In the Two Sahihs there is a Hadith reported from Az-Zuhri, from Sa`id from Abu Hurayrah that the Messenger of Allah said,


«لَا يَمُوتُ لِأَحَدٍ مِنَ الْمُسْلِمِينَ ثَلَاثَةٌ مِنَ الْوَلَدِ تَمَسُّهُ النَّارُ إِلَّا تَحِلَّةَ الْقَسَم»


(No one of the Muslims who has had three children, who all died, will be touched by the Hellfire, except for an oath that must be fulfilled.) `Abdur-Rahman bin Zayd bin Aslam commented on Allah's statement,


﴿وَإِن مِّنكُمْ إِلاَّ وَارِدُهَا﴾


(There is not one of you but will pass over it "The passing of the Muslims (over the Hellfire) means their passing over a bridge that is over it. But the passing of the idolators over the Hellfire refers to their admission to the Fire.'' As-Suddi reported from Murrah, from Ibn Mas`ud, that he said concerning Allah's statement,


﴿كَانَ عَلَى رَبِّكَ حَتْماً مَّقْضِيّاً﴾


(this is with your Lord; a Hatman decree.) "An oath that must be fulfilled.'' Mujahid said, "Hatman means preordainment.'' Ibn Jurayj said the same. Concerning Allah's statement,


﴿ثُمَّ نُنَجِّى الَّذِينَ اتَّقَواْ﴾


(Then We shall save those who had Taqwa. ) When all of the creatures passed over the Hellfire, and those disbelievers and the disobedient people who are destined to fall into it because of their disobedience, Allah will save the believers and the righteous people from it because of their deeds. Therefore, their passing over the bridge and their speed will be based upon their deeds that they did in this life. Then, the believers who performed major sins will be allowed intercession. The angels, the Prophets and the believers will all intercede. Thus, a large number of the sinners will be allowed to come out of Hell. The fire will have devoured much of their bodies, except the places of prostration on their faces. Their removal from the Hellfire will be due to the faith in their hearts. The first to come out will be he who has the weight of a Dinar of faith in his heart. Then, whoever has the next least amount after him. Then, whoever is next to that after him, and so forth. This will continue until the one who has the tiniest hint of faith in his heart, equal to the weight of an atom. Then, Allah will take out of the Fire whoever said "La ilaha illallah,'' even one day of his entire life, even if he never performed any good deed. After this, no one will remain in the Hellfire, except those it is obligatory upon to remain in the Hellfire forever. This has been reported in many authentic Hadiths from the Messenger of Allah . This is why Allah says,


﴿ثُمَّ نُنَجِّى الَّذِينَ اتَّقَواْ وَّنَذَرُ الظَّـلِمِينَ فِيهَا جِثِيّاً ﴾


(Then We shall save those who had Taqwa. And We shall leave the wrongdoers in it, Jithyya.)


﴿وَإِذَا تُتْلَى عَلَيْهِمْ ءَايَـتُنَا بِيِّنَـتٍ قَالَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُواْ لِلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُواْ أَىُّ الْفَرِيقَيْنِ خَيْرٌ مَّقَاماً وَأَحْسَنُ نَدِيّاً - وَكَمْ أَهْلَكْنَا قَبْلَهُمْ مِّن قَرْنٍ هُمْ أَحْسَنُ أَثَاثاً وَرِءْياً ﴾


(73. And when Our clear Ayat are recited to them, those who disbelieve say to those who believe: "Which of the two groups has the best dwellings and the finest Nadiyyan'') (74. And how many a generation have We destroyed before them, who were better in wealth, goods and outward appearance)

I think that should help.

Assalamu Aleykum, Eesa

EDIT The smiley faces in the quote are not mine, they just come up lol.

 

[Ibn Abi Ahmed]

Assalamu Alaikum

I believe the only ones that will be granted paradise without trial are martyrs, and those who are too young or insane to be accountable. I will get some proof for that inshallah.

fi aman Allah
w'salaam

There are others too Alhamdullilah and may Allah make us among them. And the martyr is forgiven all his sins except debts that he may owe.

Muslim Book 020, Number 4649:

It has been reported on the authority of 'Amr b. al-'As that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: All the sins of a Shahid (martyr) are forgiven except debt.

Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 71, Number 606:

Narrated Ibn 'Abbas:


Allah's Apostle said, 'Nations were displayed before me; one or two prophets would pass by along with a few followers. A prophet would pass by accompanied by nobody. Then a big crowd of people passed in front of me and I asked, Who are they Are they my followers?" It was said, 'No. It is Moses and his followers It was said to me, 'Look at the horizon.'' Behold! There was a multitude of people filling the horizon. Then it was said to me, 'Look there and there about the stretching sky! Behold! There was a multitude filling the horizon,' It was said to me, 'This is your nation out of whom seventy thousand shall enter Paradise without reckoning.' "Then the Prophet entered his house without telling his companions who they (the 70,000) were. So the people started talking about the issue and said, "It is we who have believed in Allah and followed His Apostle; therefore those people are either ourselves or our children who are born m the Islamic era, for we were born in the Pre-lslamic Period of Ignorance.'' When the Prophet heard of that, he came out and said. "Those people are those who do not treat themselves with Ruqya, nor do they believe in bad or good omen (from birds etc.) nor do they get themselves branded (Cauterized). but they put their trust (only) in their Lord " On that 'Ukasha bin Muhsin said. "Am I one of them, O Allah's Apostle?' The Prophet said, "Yes." Then another person got up and said, "Am I one of them?" The Prophet said, 'Ukasha has anticipated you."

Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 52, Number 314:

Narrated Sad bin 'Ubaida:
Abu Abdur-Rahman who was one of the supporters of Uthman said to Abu Talha who was one of the supporters of Ali, "I perfectly know what encouraged your leader (i.e. 'Ali) to shed blood. I heard him saying: Once the Prophet sent me and Az-Zubair saying, 'Proceed to such-and-such Ar-Roudah (place) where you will find a lady whom Hatib has given a letter. So when we arrived at Ar-Roudah, we requested the lady to hand over the letter to us. She said, 'Hatib has not given me any letter.' We said to her. 'Take out the letter or else we will strip off your clothes.' So she took it out of her braid. So the Prophet sent for Hatib, (who came) and said, 'Don't hurry in judging me, for, by Allah, I have not become a disbeliever, and my love to Islam is increasing. (The reason for writing this letter was) that there is none of your companions but has relatives in Mecca who look after their families and property, while I have nobody there, so I wanted to do them some favor (so that they might look after my family and property).' The Prophet believed him. 'Umar said, 'Allow me to chop off his (i.e. Hatib's) neck as he has done hypocrisy.' The Prophet said, (to 'Umar), 'Who knows, perhaps Allah has looked at the warriors of Badr and said (to them), 'Do whatever you like, for I have forgiven you.' " 'Abdur-Rahman added, "So this is what encouraged him (i.e. Ali)."

Then there are the Muhajirun that will come to Jannah 500 years earlier because they wont have to give Hisab because they have nothing to give Hisab about. The favor of Allah upon this Ummah is great indeed!

 

[*charisma*]

Assalamu Alaikum

I would first just like to show the slight, slight difference in translation:

019.071
YUSUFALI: Not one of you but will pass over it: this is, with thy Lord, a Decree which must be accomplished.
PICKTHAL: There is not one of you but shall approach it. That is a fixed ordinance of thy Lord.
SHAKIR: And there is not one of you but shall come to it; this is an unavoidable decree of your Lord.

Barak Allahu feek for that ekhi.

There are others too Alhamdullilah and may Allah make us among them. And the martyr is forgiven all his sins except debts that he may owe.

ameen!
Jazak Allahu khair for those sources.

fi aman Allah
w'salaam

 

[snakelegs]

YOu can't contradict religion with science because these are two different entities, but you can believe in both!

Even science can't prove anything sometimes, nor can everyone understand it no matter how logical it is.

peace

i agree completely. god needs no "proof". sceience and religion are not in-compatible. they are simply 2 different systems.

 

[Umar001]

Assalamu Alaikum



Barak Allahu feek for that ekhi.


ameen!
Jazak Allahu khair for those sources.

fi aman Allah
w'salaam

Wa Aleykum Salam Wa Rhametulah,

And May Allah reward you! Ameen.

 

[Pygoscelis]

So.. what is your point here exactly? :?

Well, my post was edited and it lost some its meaning due to the editing. I'll leave it at that out of respect to whoever edited it (I assume they have good reason)

 

[Pygoscelis]

Fear of Hell is a poor reason to accept a religion. I choose Islam because I believe it to be the true way to express Love of Allah(swt).

Yes, here you are re-iterating my point for me. People will not come to a religion because of a fear of hell, if they don't believe hell exists.

I doubt very much that the threat of Hell is the bond that holds any person to a belief of God(swt).

And here is where we disagree. I can not speak regarding Islam, as I have little of the religion and do not know many deconverts from it (the main reason why I'm here) but I do know many deconverts from Christianity and many of them have recounted their experiences to me of how they were initially afraid to question their beliefs because they would be punished by hellfire.

It is a real phenomenon in that religion. It would not suprise me if it also occurs in Islam, but again I'm no expert on deconversion from that religion.

 

[Woodrow]

Yes, here you are re-iterating my point for me. People will not come to a religion because of a fear of hell, if they don't believe hell exists.



And here is where we disagree. I can not speak regarding Islam, as I have little of the religion and do not know many deconverts from it (the main reason why I'm here) but I do know many deconverts from Christianity and many of them have recounted their experiences to me of how they were initially afraid to question their beliefs because they would be punished by hellfire.

It is a real phenomenon in that religion. It would not suprise me if it also occurs in Islam, but again I'm no expert on deconversion from that religion.

I doubt if many Muslims are Muslim out of fear of Hellfire. Remember Islam is simply the submission to God(swt) A Muslim is a person who submits to God(swt). That is all what the words mean. Our common bond is our submitting our lives to God(swt) We have no ordained clergy, we do not tithe to any church, we do not blindly accept any teachings of any living person, we accept full responsibility for all of our actions. We are content with the knowledge that we will be rewarded in accordance to our own individual deeds. we do not know if we will earn heaven or hellfire, all we know is that our love of Allah(swt) is the reason for our submission to him.

 

[*charisma*]

Hey,

but I do know many deconverts from Christianity and many of them have recounted their experiences to me of how they were initially afraid to question their beliefs because they would be punished by hellfire.

If they couldn't question their beliefs, then wouldn't it mean they were following it blindly?

I'm not sure if you're saying the reason for their deconversion is because the fear of hell, but if it was then wouldn't they still believe in hell anyways, whether they deconverted or not? I mean if they became athiests then it's like saying you're demolishing the existing of hell, (which you really aren't because its reason of your deconversion) and you just choose to disbelieve in it because you fear it.

peace

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

If you do not understand something, its a must that you ask so that u may learn and not follow blindly. Thats how it is in Islam. Your allowed to question, cuz we r told to seek knowledge.