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Re: Does the Holy Quran or any other Islamic Text say that God does not look like any

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4: Walam yakun lahu kufuwan ahadun
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the fourth verse of QS. AL-Ikhlas (112).

Truthseeker63, I notice that you have been recycling your questions?
 
Can anyone help me refute/debunk just this part of this article called is Jesus like

Can anyone help me refute/debunk just this part of this article called is Jesus like Adam ? Sam Shamoun is saying that Adam's creation was and is a exception because he was the first human or the first of mankind.

Quran Inconsistency
Is Jesus Like Adam?

Sam Shamoun

Adam's creation was due primarily to the circumstances in which he was created, i.e. seeing that he was the first man there could have been no possible way for him to have been born from human parents.

Rebuttal to Sam Shamoun's Article "Is Jesus Like Adam?"

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Bassam Zawadi​
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Shamoun thinks that he might have refuted the Qur'anic logic by arguing back that Adam is an exception since he was the first of mankind. However, the Qur'ans logic is that the miracle of Adam's and Jesus' creation without a father refutes the simple argument of "Jesus not having a father means God is his father". Shamoun is also assuming that the reason why Jesus was given this miracle was because he was divine. However, to prove this he must provide other evidence and not just the mere fact that Jesus was created without a father.

http://www.call-to-monotheism.com/rebuttal_to_sam_shamoun_s_article__is_jesus_like_adam___

Jesus Is Indeed Like Adam
 
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Salaam/ Peace

it's better not to visit and read writings of hate mongers. They love to spread hate and lies. Pl. just ignore those sites. Thanks.
 
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Peace,

Agree with the Sister above, no one takes Sam Shamoun's articles seriously, he's articles are filled with absolute bias and are rediculous claims that have all easily been refuted.

And havn't you already posted the rebuttal?

Anyways, if your into rebuttals alot, then here's a nice forums thats dedicated to it -http://www.islamic-life.com/forums/tafsir-sciences-quran/linguistic-miracle-quran-orientalists-2774
 
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Greetings and peace be with you truthseeker63;

I agree that God created Adam, and I do not believe that Adam evolved from apes. I also agree that Jesus was born of the Virgin Mary, and had no Father other than God. So the things that both Adam and Jesus share are that they have God as a Father.

In the spirit of searching for God

Eric
 
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Eric H said:
Greetings and peace be with you truthseeker63;

So the things that both Adam and Jesus share are that they have God as a Father.
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No they both had a creator. It looks like you dont know the difference between the words Creator and Father
 
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I need to look for the original article. But just to comment the quotes proposed above
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Sam Shamoun is saying that Adam's creation was and is a exception because he was the first human or the first of mankind.
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Adam's creation was due primarily to the circumstances in which he was created, i.e. seeing that he was the first man there could have been no possible way for him to have been born from human parents.
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that's beautiful. but I just didn't understand, how this proves quran logic is inconsistent ? and why is the creation of adam (whithout a father) less miraculous than the creation of Jesus (in the quran) ?
 
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The question is an intresting one and surely deserves an answer. I believe it is asking is Jesus like Adam as being the only 2 men that were created without any new scientific methods with no Input in their being from a human Father in the formation of their earthly form . So far I have seen no answer
 
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just a little light relief but as i was reading it occured to me that a lot of commentaters in the West blame the lack of a Father in many households as the cause of so much decline in social standings so maybe ADAM was the first teenage delinquent as he had no father lol.
 
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I think Jesus was human like Adam was this is why I posted this.
 
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you are correct Jesus was human like Adam but it is hard to ignore the fact that although they are both human they differ from all other humans in that they both had a body created without any biological input from a human male. Eve was made from Adams rib so that rules her out but makes her an intresting anomaly to some could say she was the first clone.
 
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sorry i forget my manners

love and respect
 
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Greetings and peace be with you Airforce;

No they both had a creator. It looks like you dont know the difference between the words Creator and Father
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My apologies for using Christian meanings on an Islamic forum, I did not mean to offend

In the spirit of searching for a greater understanding between our faiths

Eric
 
Re: In Islam was Jesus a Human Being just like Adam/Eve were I ask this question beca

of course in Islam they consider Jesus was human like everyone else ; i'm a christian and I know that. Christians believe this too I also know they both believe he was also special. The difference between the Christians and the Muslims is how special. You will notice that I had the manners to post a reply that at least attempts to answer your question.

LOVE and RESPECT
 
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Wyatt said:
Does anyone know anything about Muhammad's parents? Does Islam believe Jesus was the product of a virgin birth?
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Yes, Islam believes in the virgin birth. I'm not sure about Muhammad's parents. Hopefully one of our Muslim brothers can respond to that question.
 
Re: In Islam was Jesus a Human Being just like Adam/Eve were I ask this question beca

I mean, of course people know some things about Muhammad's parents. When I say I'm not sure about them, I mean I don't know what the story is, but yes a story does exist.
 
3 facts that prove that Jesus can't be God number 1 God does not die like a human or

3 facts that prove that Jesus can't be God number 1 God does not die like a human or be born tell a lie or sin at all or stop existing since God is Eternal and Perfect also God does not sleep or eat or drink number 2 God is not a Trinity there is not 3 gods also God is 1 not 3 and number 3 is that Jesus was created without a Father just like Adam was while Adam had no Parents Mother/Father which means that the Virgin Birth does not make Jesus God or God the Son or God's Son.

Quran 3:59 "Lo! the likeness of Jesus with Allah is as the likeness of Adam. He created him of dust, then He said unto him: Be! and he is.
 
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Re: 3 facts that prove that Jesus can't be God number 1 God does not die like a human

^Are you a Muslim? :hmm:
 
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I am searching for the truth and these 3 things proved to me that Jesus can't be God.
 
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I am searching for the truth and these 3 things proved to me that Jesus can't be God.
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May Allah open your heart to Islam, ameen. :)

Number two does it for me, how can God be three? And then one? :hmm:
 

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