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I think that the ideaa of the hypostatic union the idea that Jesus was and is God and

I think that the ideaa of the hypostatic union the idea that Jesus was and is God and man at the sametime a God man makes no sense because one must have God be a Trinity for the hypostatic union to work in other words was there a God when Jesus was born and a baby and a child about when he died on the cross as Christians believe did God just die and there was no God anymore this is why Christians have the Trinity to explain that what do you think ?
 
Re: I plan on going to a Mosque this Friday I have made up my mind I want to convert

truthseeker63 said:
I plan on going to a Mosque this Friday I have made up my mind I want to convert to Islam will I be welcomed what I mean is should I call first or Email ?
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congratulations Truthseeker; i just knew this moment will come inshallah for the sincere seekers! :statisfie

Since you want to convert, you can go into a mosque 'uninvited' for your allready invited as Muslims [or Muslims to be] allready have invitation from the owner of the House of prayer; ALLAH [SWT] :smile:

But i think it would be a good idea to go about half an hour befroe the congregational prayer time [you can phone up the mosque in advance to find out their times] , so you can go the the office and have a word with the Imaam or mosque staff that you want to convert, and they may 'initiate' you into Islam there and then or they may ask you to go to the imaam while he is about to start the prayer so you can convert in front of many pleased witnesses! :smile:

it would also be a good idea to be in a state of ritual purity when you go to the mosque, so you can partake in the prayer too; all you need to do is have a bath, and make sure that all the body is wetted with water, water reaches the soft/fleshy part of the nostrils, and that you gargle out the mouth; this is the major ablution one needs to have, and it would suffice for the minor ablution too one needs before prayer; the major ablution has to be repeated if a male ejaculates semen form their body or has sexual intercourse [even without ejeculation], and it is the same for females... but they also need to have it once their menses have finished

hope this helps

Salam! :smile:
 
Re: I think that the ideaa of the hypostatic union the idea that Jesus was and is God

Asalamu Alaykum

I was raised as a Christian and the I never understood exactly how the Trinity worked. When I would ask about it people would just tell me that it was something that human beings couldn't fathom.

On the issue of the Holy Spirit, that's just basically being in God's presence. When you are filled with the Holy Spirit, it is being "filled" with God's presence. It doesn't cause you to speak any differently (unless with go into the speaking in "tongues" debate lol), it's mostly just a feeling.
 
Re: I think that the ideaa of the hypostatic union the idea that Jesus was and is God

Most religions are pretty straightforward---but Chrsitianity is a maze---you go in there and you only get a headache!

Christians explain their trinity by talking about water and egg and such---I think an ameoba works just as well----that is, an ameoba divides into 2 daughter cells---in their case, I suppose God got divided into 3....one of which ended up in human form....so why didn't God keep on dividing?----apparently the God in human form was under the mistaken impression that the world he (or one of him) had created was about to end!---didn't happen----but hey, lets just sweep that under the carpet!----so the God-division stopped at 3---and you end up with a trinity and a lot of crazy Christians waiting around for the "end times"...........
 
Re: I think that the ideaa of the hypostatic union the idea that Jesus was and is God

Never understood the trinity. Don't believe in it and I won't attempt to explain it because I never understood the way it was explained to me as a child, as a teen and now as an adult.

I got the whole think of water existing in ice, liquid and air. That didn't make sense to me because water is water, liquid is liquid and air is air. There are things that make them all uniquely different. Even though we have similar DNA to chimps, chimps are chimps and humans are humans.

Then of course as a child I was interested in Greek mythology and for the longest time I thought of Jesus (pbuh) as a demi-god because that's what it seemed to mean to be if Jesus (pbuh) is a begotten son. The story of Mithra didn't help.

This is where I differ with trinitarian Christians.
 
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Re: I think that the ideaa of the hypostatic union the idea that Jesus was and is God

or how about this.......

Once upon a time, there was an all powerful Diety who got bored and lonely and decided to clone himself. But he didn't like the way he looked, not to mention, it was too confusing. So he sent one clone off into human form and the other into a bird form. The one in human form became too popular and the Diety was afraid people would forget him and worship his clone---so he had his clone killed off. But it was too late---people already worshipped the clone and called themselves Xtians!!!.........so now, the Diety is upset and wants to end the world but can't quite decide on the timing.......I think my version of events is much more interesting...perhaps some people should ditch their stories in favor of mine!!!
 
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Re: I think that the ideaa of the hypostatic union the idea that Jesus was and is God

Be careful. Although I think the trinity in and of itself is a joke, some people might be offended by the story above.

Remember, we Christians like flowery language that sounds good and doesn't quite always answer the questions all the way. At least that's all I've ever gotten from many fellow Christians. :-(

May God guide us all to the right path. Amen.
 
Re: I think that the ideaa of the hypostatic union the idea that Jesus was and is God

Thanks for the warning Aprender. It wasn't my intention to offend---made some changes---hopefully people will see it more as the mythology it was intended as.....
 
Re: Are there any verses in the Quran and or the Hadith that say that the Moon is God

truthseeker63 said:
Are there any verses in the Quran and or the Hadith that say that the Moon is God's creation the Moon was and is created by God I ask this question because some Non Muslims claim that the God of Islam is a Moon God ?
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The above verses are more than sufficient.
But for the sake of argument, the burden of proof is on those people (christians I presume) to provide evidence that muslims worship moon.
 
Re: Are there any verses in the Quran and or the Hadith that say that the Moon is God

This seems to be "Moon-god" thread number 793,276. It is amazing that this ridiculous claim is so persistent. The idiotic concept came about from the Ottoman flag which not-Muslims came to associate with Islam. We have never worshiped the Moon nor does the star and crescent have any religious significance to us. If the moon has any significance it is that of a calendar and is a way of determining the date, much like the position of the sun is a way to determine the time of day.
 
Re: Are there any verses in the Quran and or the Hadith that say that the Moon is God

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This seems to be "Moon-god" thread number 793,276. It is amazing that this ridiculous claim is so persistent. The idiotic concept came about from the Ottoman flag which not-Muslims came to associate with Islam. We have never worshiped the Moon nor does the star and crescent have any religious significance to us. If the moon has any significance it is that of a calendar and is a way of determining the date, much like the position of the sun is a way to determine the time of day.
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Kinda shows their desperation.
 
Re: Where in the Quran or other Islamic text is Homosexuality talked about as being a

Assala mu alaiqum ! brother and sister ,

As per my little knowledge : almost all males ( may not be 100% but most of them ) are having homo sex in their life . It may be partly or completely . It may be with knowledge or lack of knowledge about homosexuality .

Heterosexual men are having homo sex because : they may face crisis of women or after a certain time they want change they want some new adventure .

Bisexual men are having homo sex because : they cant satisfy them self with woman only . they want or need to full fill their desire by having sex with male as well as female .

Homosexual men are having homo sex because : they don't have any choice , they don't feel any sexual attraction with woman . either they have to live without sex in their life or they have to sex with male .

Now My question is : If we look at the Quran or any Hadid ; we get homosexual is prohibited But for whom is prohibited It didn't mention . Is Homosexual prohibited for Heterosexual people Or Bisexual people Or heterosexual & Bisexual Or Homosexual people ? Because Quran and Sahih Hadid did not specify sexual orientation .

Any body can describe me that, For whom homosexual is prohibited along with prove ? Thanks a lot ....
 
Re: Where in the Quran or other Islamic text is Homosexuality talked about as being a

hopeonallah said:
Now My question is : If we look at the Quran or any Hadid ; we get homosexual is prohibited But for whom is prohibited It didn't mention . Is Homosexual prohibited for Heterosexual people Or Bisexual people Or heterosexual & Bisexual Or Homosexual people ? Because Quran and Sahih Hadid did not specify sexual orientation .

Any body can describe me that, For whom homosexual is prohibited along with prove ? Thanks a lot ....
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Wa alaykum salam,

1. Adultery is a sin (i.e. fornication outside of marriage).
2. Men cannot marry men and women cannot marry women. Such marriages are not recognised in Islam, hence homosexual acts would always be considered a type of fornication.

In light of the above, you should realise that homosexual acts can never be done without them being considered sins. So, homosexual behaviour is prohibited for all people.

Furthermore, Islam doesn't recognise people as being 'homosexual' or 'bisexual' to begin with, so there is no 'allowance' for them.

Also, sodomy is a sin even between heterosexual couples.
 
Re: Where in the Quran and or the Hadith does it say that the Prophets were Muslims a

To add to the evidences given above...

الراوي جابر بن عبدالله أن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم قال: لو أن موسى حيا ما وسعه إلا اتباعي

Narrated Jabir Bin Abdullah that The Messenger of Allah (SAW) said: "If Moses were alive, he would follow me." (Classed Sahih By Imam Jawzi & Ibn Kathir & Good Chain By Ibn Hajar & Sheikh Albani).

The reason why, is because he, like all other prophets were Muslims.
 
Re: Are there any verses in the Quran and or the Hadith that say that the Moon is God

naidamar said:



which begs the question:

Why do they keep spreading lies about Islam?
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For the simple fact: If they ever see us as being true, it will cast doubt upon what they believe. It is a matter of self preservation, if they have no reason to believe we are wrong, they will have to question their own beliefs.

A person will grasp at anything to save them from even thinking they were in error for their entire life and all they held as sacred was false.
 
Re: Where in the Quran or other Islamic text is Homosexuality talked about as being a

Assalamu aliqum ! " Bedouin "

Thank you for your valuable response to my queries . But you did not shown any evidence regarding your replies . I request you please enlightening me by the evidence . As per my knowledge there are neither any prophet nor any companion left in this world now a days. But there are evidences for all answer regarding Islam. And there are many fake people who are talking about Islam without evidences for misguide the people . I don't want to became a part of misguided people . Truthful Muslims never mind to show the prove . Truthful Muslim people always humble in their behavior . I think you are a Muslim .

1). As you said : " Men cannot marry men and women cannot marry women. Such marriages are not recognised in Islam, "
Can you show me any prove regarding this ?

2). you mentioned : " Also, sodomy is a sin even between heterosexual couples. " . Here my query is ,will it be allowed in Islam If two same sex people do sex without doing sodomy ?

I am asking advance apologize if I have done any mistake or hurt you here . I hope you will answer soon . thanks ...
 
Are there any verses in the Quran and or the Hadith where it talks about God giving h

Are there any verses in the Quran and or the Hadith where it talks about God giving humans souls or God giving Adam and or Jesus souls thank you ?
 
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Dear Truthseeker,

This verse is about Jesus AS:

" O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) a messenger of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His messengers. Say not "Trinity" : desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah. Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs. " Quran 4/171

This is about Adam AS:

" Behold! thy Lord said to the angels: "I am about to create man, from sounding clay from mud moulded into shape;
When I have fashioned him (in due proportion) and breathed into him of My spirit, fall ye down in obeisance unto him." Quran 15/29

This is about souls:

" They ask thee concerning the Spirit (of inspiration).(2285) Say: "The Spirit (cometh) by command of my Lord: of knowledge it is only a little that is communicated to you, (O men!)" Quran 17/85
" When thy Lord drew forth from the Children of Adam - from their loins - their descendants, and made them testify concerning themselves, (saying): "Am I not your Lord (who cherishes and sustains you)?"- They said: "Yea! We do testify!"(This), lest ye should say on the Day of Judgment: "Of this we were never mindful":" Quran 7/172
 

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