U.S. Presidential Election 2008: Obama and Huckabee

[north_malaysian]

I don´t see why... go to Brazil and ask their opinion

Barack Obama's father is not an African Latino, it's unfair to call him a Mulatto as he's not a latino.

His father came from Kenya, a member of the British Commonwealth... he should be known as Eurafrican.

 

[ricardo_sousa]

Barack Obama's father is not an African Latino, it's unfair to call him a Mulatto as he's not a latino.

His father came from Kenya, a member of the British Commonwealth... he should be known as Eurafrican.

but mulatto have nothing to do with being "latino" or not....

 

[Whatsthepoint]

As much as I fail to see the point of discussing this, I'm gonna have to go with Ricardo. A mulatto is a descendant of a black and a white parent.
Eurafrican is a good term, however white people are not indigenous only in Europe but also in parts of Asia.

 

[AvarAllahNoor]

Just call him by his name. Problem solved. (Not addressing Hillary by her background are we)

 

[Keltoi]

Now is that being a good Christian?

Is anything you have said about Hillary Christian?

Christian? Does being Christian mean I can't have an opinion about someone's speaking style, politics, or personal demeanor? No it doesn't, so stop with cheap tactics.

 

[tomtomsmom]

Now now boys, lets keep this civil. I am tired of interesting threads being closed due to mud slinging. K thanks!!!!!!!

 

[adeeb]

^^ agree...

 

[Keltoi]

Now now boys, lets keep this civil. I am tired of interesting threads being closed due to mud slinging. K thanks!!!!!!!

You're right, sorry. Being called a bigot seems to rub me the wrong way. However, you are correct.

 

[MTAFFI]

LOL poison dart frog!

lol.. I am glad you could find the humor in that!

Like I said, many people think that $8000 isn't a lot to have to pay. But when you don't have that extra money to spend it might as well be a million dollars. It is a hard choice to make when you have to decide if your rent gets paid or your lawyer does. Does it frustrate me that people avoid doing it. Hell yeah. As a matter of fact it thoroughly pisses me off. I can't help but think that if more people did it instead of going around the system, that it would cost me less money and time to make sure my husband gets to stay with me. And after all is said and done, they can still reject his application and he would be deported. I think that if someone illegal commits a crime, they should be deported. We shouldn't have to pay for them to stay here. I would much rather my tax dollars be spent on a one way plane ticket. I don't think that illegals should be allowed to get government assistance at all. If they don't pay taxes, they shouldn't get help. There are thousands of US citizens that need help and can't get it because there in no money to help them. That isn't fair. I understand why people think that every illegal should be deported. But at the same time, it is a lot different when it is someone you love who can possibly meet that fate. It gives you a different perspective.

This is exactly my point, it probably wouldnt cost you $8 grand for your husband if it wasnt for all of this illegal nonsense. So the price is pushed up for you and your husband because of these people who disrespect our country by disobeying our laws their first days in our country. It just isnt right for everyone else who is working hard and abiding by the system to have to pay such a tremendous amount of money for these people. Hilary visited a primarily latino community yesterday and said that there wasnt an illegal woman in america... How is that right? And again she claims to be on these peoples side but then if she were to get in office she would cut medicare and medicade, she would put higher taxes on the poor and middle classes.... These are just two minor things, her husband is who really allowed us to be in such a trade deficit with China today, by importing everything at the cost of the middle and lower class jobs.. Sad, and if she is president I would bet big money that it will only create a larger divide between the rich and the poor, at some point the middle class working man, the man that I truly admire for driving this country over the past 200 or so years, will lose his status and simply be a poor man.

 

[Cognescenti]

I do! Why you may ask? He is responsible for the deaths of thousands if not millions in the Middle East. Innocent people who had nothing to do with the conflict. Including USA soldiers. (Well him and Blair) So I'd wish him and Dick (how appropriate) Cheney and croonies to perish as others have for the sake of oil!

Gur Fateh.

Avar;

People like you give "hate" a bad name.

 

[Cognescenti]

I am just trying to gain more information on why people don't want her to be president. So if you so feel inclined you can explain why you don't. I was just looking on Edwards site and I really like the healthcare plan he has on there. If it will really happen, who knows. But as a non-insured person, it is nice to see that there is a detailed plan already instead of saying "yeah we are gonna do something about it but we just aren't sure what yet"


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Right...well she tried to have to Federal Government take over 1/5 of the US economy (healthcare initiative during hubby's first term)

She lied about the Rose Law firm records that, though claimed lost, miraculously appeared in the West Wing.

She lied about making $100,000 in a single day on a cattle futures contract when Billy was Governor.

She is a weather vane politician...she operates by focus group and polls...carefully trying to hide her true ideological beliefs (because this would doom her chances)

Her thighs are too fat. :giggling: (just kidding)

 

[tomtomsmom]

lol.. I am glad you could find the humor in that!




This is exactly my point, it probably wouldnt cost you $8 grand for your husband if it wasnt for all of this illegal nonsense. So the price is pushed up for you and your husband because of these people who disrespect our country by disobeying our laws their first days in our country. It just isnt right for everyone else who is working hard and abiding by the system to have to pay such a tremendous amount of money for these people. Hilary visited a primarily latino community yesterday and said that there wasnt an illegal woman in america... How is that right? And again she claims to be on these peoples side but then if she were to get in office she would cut medicare and medicade, she would put higher taxes on the poor and middle classes.... These are just two minor things, her husband is who really allowed us to be in such a trade deficit with China today, by importing everything at the cost of the middle and lower class jobs.. Sad, and if she is president I would bet big money that it will only create a larger divide between the rich and the poor, at some point the middle class working man, the man that I truly admire for driving this country over the past 200 or so years, will lose his status and simply be a poor man.

Yes the poor get poorer and the rich get richer. There is all this talk of extra child tax credit. But I don't see how much that can help someone who is tring to raise a family on $20,000 a year. Minimum wage is no where close to where it should be (here in NC for sure).

As far as no woman being illegal all I have to say is BOO!!!!!:thumbs_do

 

[tomtomsmom]

Right...well she tried to have to Federal Government take over 1/5 of the US economy (healthcare initiative during hubby's first term)

She lied about the Rose Law firm records that, though claimed lost, miraculously appeared in the West Wing.

She lied about making $100,000 in a single day on a cattle futures contract when Billy was Governor.

She is a weather vane politician...she operates by focus group and polls...carefully trying to hide her true ideological beliefs (because this would doom her chances)

Her thighs are too fat. :giggling: (just kidding)

Thanks for taking the time to explain. It is hard to find info (for me anyway) that makes any sense.

 

[MTAFFI]

Right...well she tried to have to Federal Government take over 1/5 of the US economy (healthcare initiative during hubby's first term)

She lied about the Rose Law firm records that, though claimed lost, miraculously appeared in the West Wing.

She lied about making $100,000 in a single day on a cattle futures contract when Billy was Governor.

She is a weather vane politician...she operates by focus group and polls...carefully trying to hide her true ideological beliefs (because this would doom her chances)

Her thighs are too fat. :giggling: (just kidding)

so it is 1/5? I thought I read somewhere it was 1/9, not contending your figure as I dont always have the best memory... All the more reason I guess, I wonder how many jobs would be lost or payrates would be reduced because of this wonderful plan by Hilary Clinton? Sounds a bit like Hugo Chavez ideas to me.. Why not go ahead and nationalize the countries telephone and energy industries next..

 

[omar_2133]

(As an Obama supporter, I'm particularly interested to see if Muslims across the world—most of whom seem to currently hate America—would be willing to start on a new page with the US of A if Obama wins the election.)

You do realize that he had even argued in a speech in August 2007, that if terrorists managed to be located and tracked down on Pakistani/Afghan terrioty, and none of the respective governments acted on their intelligence, then he would order the Airforce to unilaterally bomb the area, from their neighbouring bases in Afghanistan.

And if you remember the last time something like that happened, in the Bajaur bombing which was intended to strike Al Quaeda's number two, Ayman Al-Zawahri, 83 Pakistani civilians were killed, including five foreigners, which sparked widespread anger and condemnation in the Islamic World, and was even described by the Pakistani minister as a violation of sovereignty.

In that respects, he is treading quite a dangerous line in taking that stance.

 

[Omari]

Personaly, I want anyone besides a dictator to run the superpower. Obama sounds good to me

 

[Cognescenti]

You do realize that he had even argued in a speech in August 2007, that if terrorists managed to be located and tracked down on Pakistani/Afghan terrioty, and none of the respective governments acted on their intelligence, then he would order the Airforce to unilaterally bomb the area, from their neighbouring bases in Afghanistan.
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I believe Omar pretty much has that right. Does that change anyone's opinion of Obama?

 

[Cognescenti]

Personaly, I want anyone besides a dictator to run the superpower. Obama sounds good to me

How about Clinton...she voted for the Iraq war?

How about McCain....he is an ex-POW war hero who has said he would stay in Iraq "one hundred years" if that is how long it took to win?

How about Giuliani..he was Mayor of New York in 2001..he literally saw, first hand, people jumping to their deaths out of the WTC?

Obama has said he would bomb Pakistani territory if he had to.

I think the guy you want is Kucinich.


BTW...you might explain to us what you mean by "dictator" as your meaning seems to differ from the commonly accepted one.

 

[Omari]

a person exercising absolute power in ways that are against humanity. hmm that turned out good.

and I never said I support him, i just want troops out of afghanistan and iraq. Do you know what is happening to "suspected terrorists" in the prisons?

 

[AvarAllahNoor]

Avar;

People like you give "hate" a bad name.

Is there a good form of hate?