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Safiya 1 said:
Do you think everyone here is hyderabadi? Now I think maybe you are also one of them .
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nahi bhai mera hyderabad se door tak bhi koi connection nahi hai
bas ab band karo ye topic
kya frak padta hai kaun kaha se hai
concentrate on following topics
1)gussa kam karne ki dua
2) Ab hyderabad itna surkhiyon me hai to ,hyderabadi biryani bahot famous hai.to uski recipe post kar dena.han pata tumhe banane nahi ati ,ammi se pooch lena.
 
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OK Hyderabadis... tell me, what proportion of the population of the City of Hyderabad (Andra Pradesh, India) speak Urdu and what proportion speak Telugu? Is it fair to assume most people are conversant in both?
 
Banu_Hashim said:
OK Hyderabadis... tell me, what proportion of the population of the City of Hyderabad (Andra Pradesh, India) speak Urdu and what proportion speak Telugu? Is it fair to assume most people are conversant in both?
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Hyderabad me dekho 42% musalmaan hai aur baaki ghair musalmaan...aur sirf musalmaan hi hyderabadi urdu baat karte hai....aur kuch musalmaan faseeh urdu baat karte hai...baaki ghair musalmaan to telugu hi baat karrte hai. Maza aata jab telugu log urdu me baat karne ki koshish karte hai...:giggling:

'Majid bhai, kaisa hai re.' ek hi statement me izzat bhi baizzati bhi. :p
 
mun-o-salwa said:
i love Hyderabadi's Urdu.... actually i love correcting them....
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I think Br. Zak mun-o-salwa ki baat kar rahe hai.

Khan Rahila said:
2) Ab hyderabad itna surkhiyon me hai to ,hyderabadi biryani bahot famous hai.to uski recipe post kar dena.han pata tumhe banane nahi ati ,ammi se pooch lena.
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ammi se pooch lena :giggling:. Google search se aasani se mill gaye recipe.

http://www.sanjeevkapoor.com/hyderabadi-biryani.aspx

http://www.squidoo.com/hyderabadi-biryani-recipe
 
Banu_Hashim said:
Is it fair to assume most people are conversant in both?
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NO! Not everyone are familiar with both the languages, however some know both languages very well, mostly muslims. There are many sheikhs here who talk about Islam in Telugu.

I dont know telugu much, people talk about me in the office in telugu. At office they talk about me in my presence in telugu, i dont understand them...:( mereku samajh me nai aata ki unloga tareef karte ya burai karte meri...jab mai boltau na urdu ya english me bolo boleto nai bolte...:p
 
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'Abd Al-Maajid said:


Hyderabad me dekho 42% musalmaan hai aur baaki ghair musalmaan...aur sirf musalmaan hi hyderabadi urdu baat karte hai....aur kuch musalmaan faseeh urdu baat karte hai...baaki ghair musalmaan to telugu hi baat karrte hai. Maza aata jab telugu log urdu me baat karne ki koshish karte hai...:giggling:

'Majid bhai, kaisa hai re.' ek hi statement me izzat bhi baizzati bhi. :p
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I thought as much. In my opinion Urdu shouldn't be just the language of the Muslims but spread far and wide, and Muslims while the custodians of this beautiful and rich language should teach their non-Urdu speaking fellow citizens how to speak.

I remember my Dad telling me that his friends father, I think, who owned a factory in Barauni, Bihar where my dad grew up knew only how to speak and write Urdu. He was a Hindu.

It seems as though through the generations, Urdu as a langauge in India is being lost. In a video (below) the researcher talks about those above 60 years of age knowing the sounds of Urdu; the qaaf, the gha, the kha etc in the Urdu script. Then you have the generation after 30-50, who have retained the sounds in Urdu and the vocab etc, but have reverted to the devnagiri script with the nuqta's to signify the sounds in Urdu. Then you have the young generation, who have basically almost lost the pure Urdu language and are almost ashamed of the language because Muslims in general have been marganlised in the country.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fl4xppek2gY

Is this true? Is nafees Urdu in India marginalised and looked down upon? Is it suffering as a result?

Thoughts...?
 
^ True to some extent that
Banu_Hashim said:
Then you have the young generation, who have basically almost lost the pure Urdu language and are almost ashamed of the language because Muslims in general have been marginalised in the country.
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But it seems like a joke to me that...
Banu_Hashim said:
Muslims while the custodians of this beautiful and rich language should teach their non-Urdu speaking fellow citizens how to speak.
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'Abd Al-Maajid said:
But it seems like a joke to me that...
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Why? It what sense...? My point was that it should be more wide spread in India than it currently is and not limited to specialist newspapers and secluded mushairas; but implemented into the national curriculum for kids and especially in the nastaleeq script which is btw the most beautiful script of any language I've ever seen (even though I find it hard to read without getting stuck at some words :embarrass).

But before you scold me, I don't technically know the condition personally of Urdu in India, as I have never lived there but I am going on what I have read:exhausted.
 
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Banu_Hashim said:
Why? It what sense...?
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idk...however this can be done if the government takes steps to include urdu in the school syllabus as it does with telugu. you know what studying telugu as a subject in school is mandatory. When I was in my 10th standard it was the last year when we had a choice to select other subject than telugu, i happily did that. since 2005 the government made telugu a mandatory subject and wants every pupil to know about it. If a person wants to learn urdu then he have to go to urdu medium school or attend a full time course, i guess. and no one's got time for that here...life's busy...

I would zAk to throw some light on this issue. :p I want to know his opinion on this...
 
'Abd Al-Maajid said:
If a person wants to learn urdu then he have to go to urdu medium school or attend a full time course, i guess. and no one's got time for that here...life's busy...
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Very true, which is why Urdu needs to be taught at the primary school level, at least.

My understanding from one online interview is that Urdu is primarily acquired from the home and some parents' attitude is that there is no benefit in learning Urdu. 'Aaj ke zamaaney men koi achhi naukri nahin mil jai gi Urdu ke saath' - something like this. But with English there are more job opportunities, blah blah blah. So as a result the youth are loosing their mother tongue, their culture, their identity and trying to create a mixture of different identities- which is not always good. Well, this is my opinion anyways.

Which language a person is more comfortable with is a different matter. I, myself consider English my primarily language and a language in which I can express my self best. But a good working knowledge of a language especially one linked to your culture and roots is important I think and it would be a shame for Urdu to disappear from it's homeland. As uncle Woodrow said in another thread 'the last step in genocide of a people is the elimination of their language'.
 
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Banu_Hashim said:
I thought as much. In my opinion Urdu shouldn't be just the language of the Muslims but spread far and wide, and Muslims while the custodians of this beautiful and rich language should teach their non-Urdu speaking fellow citizens how to speak.
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jahan tak urdu ki tareekh k baray may mairee maloomat hain.. urdu ki ibtida darasal muslamano say hi howi... hindustan may muslman apni amad k sath apni tehzeb or zabanain bhi sath laye thay.. kai saal tak hinduo k sath rehnay ki wja say akhir kar muslamno ki farssi urdu or hindustan may boli janay wali latadad zabano nay mil ker urdu ko janam diyajis ki wja say isay lashkari zaban kaha jata hay..phr hindustan k muslim hukumrano nay apnay apnay dor e hukumat may urdu ko tarweej di...

muslamno k sath urdu ka taluq kuch u bhi wazeh hota hay k jab yahan angraizo nay muslim dor e hukumat ka khatma kiya or muslimano ki taqat ko kuchlnay k liye jo sazishain ki un may ik ehm kaam ye bhi shamil tha k kisi tarah say hindustan say urdu ko khatam ker diya jaye.. is k liye urdu k bajye hindi ko raij kiya gaya...

shayad muslano k sath is taluq ki wja say isay india may wo haisiat hasil nahi jo digar zabano ko hasil hay...
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Banu_Hashim said:
My understanding from one online interview is that Urdu is primarily acquired from the home and some parents' attitude is that there is no benefit in learning Urdu. 'Aaj ke zamaaney men koi achhi naukri nahin mil jai gi Urdu ke saath' - something like this. But with English there are more job opportunities, blah blah blah. So as a result the youth are loosing their mother tongue, their culture, their identity and trying to create a mixture of different identities- which is not always good. Well, this is my opinion anyways.
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bilkul sahi
urdu sikhkar kuch faida nahi hai.urdu koi islamic language nahi jisko sikhkar hame Quran samjhne me aasani ho.
mera experience to yahi kehta hai kyunki mai urdu medium se hi hun.han bas yeh hai ki school me accha mahaul milta hai.par woh person to person differ karta hai.hamare school me kuch ladkiyan bahut bigdi hui thi.allah talah jise hidayath de.English medium ke kuch log bahut hi religious hote hai.aur unki knowledge bhi hum se kahi zayada hoti hai.
agar Arabic sikhe to kuch faida bhi hai
 
^ Your perception towards your and my mother tongue baffles me. :-\

I will make my efforts to learn Urdu no matter what the circumstances might be. :) In Sha' Allah
 
mai yeh nahi bol rahi hun urdu nahi sikhna chahiye.
ek subject urdu thik hai
kuki urdu medium se padhne ke bad ,age ki padhai karne me bahot preshani aati hai.
kunki har field me english hi hoti hai.jase aap urdu sikhna cha rahe hain.magar humare liye koi option nahi hata hai ki english sikhna hai ya nahi.
sikhna hi ha no option
 
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