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[The Ruler]

Re: 'Remove full veils' urges Straw



hmm....so if i go 'yo its very important ta c ur body language too so remove ur clothing' wil he do it :? :vomit:

 

[*Hana*]

Re: 'Remove full veils' urges Straw

indeed.

And it is so selfish and inconsiderate to tell others ways to make him comfortable at their expense. **** the hypocrit.

Salam Alaikum:

Exactly brother! He never gave a one second thought to how uncomfortable this request would be for the sisters. And he referred to community seperation....his comments are enough to do that. Thoughtless words give people the lame excuse to be critical of those that choose to practice a faith that may be different from their own.

There's already been an incident of an older gentleman pulling the hijab of a Muslimah in that area while she was walking down the street. As they say, "Words are like weapons", and can do far more damage than many realize. Without even thinking, look at the controversy he caused in one small area?

But, this is where our Muslim brothers and sisters must stand strong and respond in a calm and respectful manner to educate those who are ignorant of our beliefs so we can make them understand that this is ordained for us and is an act of worship. No different than a nun who wears the habit as a way of worship.

Inshallah, they will learn what Muslims already know...education breeds tolerance and unity. This is the message we have to put forth and not react with violence and bad manners.

Wasalam,
Hana

 

[Keltoi]

Re: 'Remove full veils' urges Straw

I don't really understand the concern with what Muslim women wear or don't wear. I was really annoyed with the gallons of hairspray used by American women in the 1980's that made their hair look like the Tower of Babel. How I wish Christian women wore veils then. Much to do about nothing if you ask me. From what I remember, the only time the veil was challenged in the U.S was in relation to a driver's license. On that issue I can understand why the veil might be problematic, but not because it makes some people "uncomfortable".

 

[akulion]

Re: 'Remove full veils' urges Straw

i have a problem with people with the name jack straw

i can only talk to them when their names are jack a*s

Statement by Aku

So if he meets me he should introduce himself as Jack A*s

 

[Ninth_Scribe]

Re: 'Remove full veils' urges Straw

sexual frustration of some sort?

Hahahahaha! Well, they do say Arabic women are extremely alluring creatures... so maybe he just wants a peek-a-boo?

It's obviously a type of frustration... all this fuss over veils and t-shirt slogans. I noticed he doesn't have any critisism over Madonna running around scantily dressed on stage, lol.

Ninth Scribe

 

[MusLiM 4 LiFe]

Re: 'Remove full veils' urges Straw

jack straws a loser! a big time loser, who ain't got anything else to do except to say and cause conflict. if he can ask us to take of our niqaab then we also have the right to ask the half naked women to put some clothes on! he thinks by making this statement he'll be some top man, he just proved himself to be an idiot!

every week, there always has to be something about muslims in the news? not anything positive but its always negative. whys that? whats the beef people?!?!

i dont get how its hard to converse with a woman wearing a niqaab :? if it is, then dont talk to the woman, i dont think she wants to talk to you too. i'm starting to think the kaafirs LIKE to P of da muslims and have some undercover thing against us!

like bro mohsin said, if this is a free country and we can practise our religion freely, why is this issue raised? its obvious he likes to annoy is big time.

 

[Mohsin]

Re: 'Remove full veils' urges Straw

Salam Alaikum:

No, he's not asking them to remove them permanently. Basically, he's saying when they come to his office to visit and discuss things they should remove them because he feels it's difficult to speak them when he can't see their faces, and some other stuff about it causing seperation in community. :rollseyes

Ok jk khair for info. But nevertheless, there still has been much discussion by many non-muslims that the veil should be banned altogether in this country. this is nothing but absolute hyporcisy from people who claim to live in a country which offers complete freedom to practise their religion

 

[Mohsin]

Re: 'Remove full veils' urges Straw

From what I remember, the only time the veil was challenged in the U.S was in relation to a driver's license. On that issue I can understand why the veil might be problematic, but not because it makes some people "uncomfortable".

Thats different. those are reasonable exceptions to the rule where a woman has to show her face, as in a passport and driving license. But this is slightly different

 

[*Hana*]

Re: 'Remove full veils' urges Straw

Ok jk khair for info. But nevertheless, there still has been much discussion by many non-muslims that the veil should be banned altogether in this country. this is nothing but absolute hyporcisy from people who claim to live in a country which offers complete freedom to practise their religion

Salam Alaikum brother:

I should have given you this link in the first place. :rollseyes

You can go HERE to read the article regarding Shaw's statements.

Sorry, I didn't send it before....I wasn't thinking. :heated:

Wasalam,
Hana

 

[j4763]

Re: 'Remove full veils' urges Straw

I’m kind of split on this, on one side its may be part of the woman’s life to cover up and if she wishes to do so then in this free country she should dress however she pleases.
But I can understand that speaking to someone in person and not being able to see there face is a bit odd, but that’s me I like to see the reaction and facial expressions (smile, frown) of the person I’m talking to.

 

[MusLiM 4 LiFe]

Re: 'Remove full veils' urges Straw

i dont find it odd.. you dont need to see a persons face, how do you talk to someone over the internet? on MSN or whatever?

 

[j4763]

Re: 'Remove full veils' urges Straw

i dont find it odd.. you dont need to see a persons face, how do you talk to someone over the internet? on MSN or whatever?

But in that case i know that person isn't in front of me.
If i were talking to someone over the phone i know i cant see them.

But its odd if your talking to someone 2 feet away from you and you cant see there expression.

 

[MusLiM 4 LiFe]

Re: 'Remove full veils' urges Straw

then dont talk to them innit? ignore them. anyway guys arent supposed to be talking to a sister. and before you ask, a sister can can remove the hijab infront of another sister.

you can know their expressions by the tone of their voice.

 

[j4763]

Re: 'Remove full veils' urges Straw

then dont talk to them innit? ignore them. anyway guys arent supposed to be talking to a sister. and before you ask, a sister can can remove the hijab infront of another sister

Well to just blank someone is considered quite rude where i'm from. With regards to guys not allowed to talk to sisters does this make mine and your exchange of words wrong (even if the talk is not in person)?

you can know their expressions by the tone of their voice.

I'm afraid this isn’t always the case.

 

[bint_muhammed]

Re: 'Remove full veils' urges Straw

if the muslims of blackburn vote for him again i'm gonna be really pissed off! (excuse my language)

 

[Kamilah]

Re: 'Remove full veils' urges Straw

sexual frustration of some sort?

lol, my sentiments exactly...!!!

this is just utter islamaphobia...mixed with the profound obsession of women!!!!!

my head started spinning when i saw the front page of his article!

and some muslim man was quoted saying.."its more of a cultural thing"

if he told me to take my veil off i would tell him exactly where to go!! the stupid pervert!

the only thing that is going to cause further community seperation is him highlighting the issue

 

[MusLiM 4 LiFe]

Re: 'Remove full veils' urges Straw

Well to just blank someone is considered quite rude where i'm from. With regards to guys not allowed to talk to sisters does this make mine and your exchange of words wrong (even if the talk is not in person)?



I'm afraid this isn’t always the case.

what do you mean by blanking someone is rude? if u mean wot i think so if you go past loads of people in some busy place and you dont say hi to one of them, thats considered rude right?

the only time a brother n sister can talk is 4 dawah purposes. IF u feel uncomfortable talking to a sister wearing the niqaab go to anoher sister that isnt. not all of us wear the niqaab...!

why cant you know the expressions by the tone of their voices?

 

[MusLiM 4 LiFe]

Re: 'Remove full veils' urges Straw

lol, my sentiments exactly...!!!

this is just utter islamaphobia...mixed with the profound obsession of women!!!!!

my head started spinning when i saw the front page of his article!

and some muslim man was quoted saying.."its more of a cultural thing"

if he told me to take my veil off i would tell him exactly where to go!! the stupid pervert!

the only thing that is going to cause further community seperation is him highlighting the issue

looooooool, joker. i was going to say that but thought its a little inappropiate for this but yeah, thats what i would have thought!

 

[j4763]

Re: 'Remove full veils' urges Straw

what do you mean by blanking someone is rude? if u mean wot i think so if you go past loads of people in some busy place and you dont say hi to one of them, thats considered rude right?

Well I guess I mean ignore someone, if I needed to ask a Muslim lady a question I would feel it was rude to not ask the question to a lady because of the veil and to rather ignore her and instead to pose my question to a Muslim who was not wearing a veil, to me that’s a bit prejudice.

the only time a brother n sister can talk is 4 dawah purposes. IF u feel uncomfortable talking to a sister wearing the niqaab go to anoher sister that isnt. not all of us wear the niqaab...!

I would never feel uncomfortable talking to a lady with a veil but just different to talking to one without.

why cant you know the expressions by the tone of their voices?

When one smiles for example, one doesn’t necessary make a sound (speak).

 

[MusLiM 4 LiFe]

Re: 'Remove full veils' urges Straw

Well I guess I mean ignore someone, if I needed to ask a Muslim lady a question I would feel it was rude to not ask the question to a lady because of the veil and to rather ignore her and instead to pose my question to a Muslim who was not wearing a veil, to me that’s a bit prejudice.

im just saying, if it bothers you so much then you shouldnt ask the sister with the niqaab on right :rollseyes im sure she wouldnt mind ^o)

I would never feel uncomfortable talking to a lady with a veil but just different to talking to one without.

if this is the case, what are we arguing about? lol

When one smiles for example, one doesn’t necessary make a sound (speak).

if you're talking for dawah purposes there shouldnt be no smiling..! LOL