Western perception of niqaab

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Freaky or not, you can see their face and their apparel does not represent a foreign power bent on world domination.
 
^^ Now ur just ignorant.

In regards to the example I gave, some people do because they want to or are rebelling against the norms of society, which people like you think Muslims do.
 
Light of Heaven said:
^^ Now ur just ignorant.

In regards to the example I gave, some people do because they want to or are rebelling against the norms of society, which people like you think Muslims do.
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Taking it up to the man is good and its usually a phase, and you can see their face so they do not pose a safety concern.
Overreligion is negative at least in my book, which is not everyone's book though, so the only way to legally limit niqabs without affecting the glories of multiculturalism is to group it with masks and hoodies.
 
If you havent realized WTP, no one cares what a non muslim thinks, especially a Muslim practising his/her religion.
 
Light of Heaven said:
If you havent realized WTP, no one cares what a non muslim thinks, especially a Muslim practising his/her religion.
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I know that, however, non-Muslims have the power to elect a governemnt that would ban the niqab, they can also have a public referendum, schools can decide whether to let a niqabi in a parents meeting etc.
Everything Muslims, or any other minority for that matter, can do, is based on the will of the majority. Multiculturalism, melting pot etc was thought of by the majority and the majority can overrule it, even if it means changing the constitution.
We can see how several countries in Europe are dropping multiculturalism and favor integration instead.
Of course, I don't see niqab being banned in the near future. I personally don't want it banned as such, just in public places.
 
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Yes they are, apart from shemales unless you can tell.
But you can still see their face.
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Whether the face shows or not is irrelevant, the article discusses the cultural aspects of niqaab, not safety concerns.
 
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Of course, I don't see niqab being banned in the near future. I personally don't want it banned as such, just in public places.
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you dont have this idea in your head that the veil is worn indoors too do you?
 
crayon said:
Whether the face shows or not is irrelevant, the article discusses the cultural aspects of niqaab, not safety concerns.
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Not being able to see the face is not merely a safety concern, face is a basic, how do you expect jurors to judge without seeing the defendant? How do you expect someone to trust you without seeing your face?
 
Whatsthepoint said:
Not being able to see the face is not merely a safety concern, face is a basic, how do you expect jurors to judge without seeing the defendant? How do you expect someone to trust you without seeing your face?
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there are special cases like in court when the face can be shown

i give my card details to people over the phone without seeing their face but i still trust they arent going to clear out my account...should i not trust them?
 
Firstly we dont need to wear it at home unless people come over...so I'm guessing you do have that thinking :S
 
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what I'm proposing is that an employer should have the full right to fire a niqabi on the sole reason of her apparel as well as deny them service, public institutions, such as schools, should have the right to block niqabis from entering etc. No school, bank etc should be obliged to provide female-only identification to accomodate to niqabis and they should be entitled to no compensation when the police do a routine check-up on them.
No such limitations should be imposed on ordinary hijabis.
 
amani said:
there are special cases like in court when the face can be shown

i give my card details to people over the phone without seeing their face but i still trust they arent going to clear out my account...should i not trust them?
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there was a case in Austria, where a woman accused of terrorism refused to take it off so it had to be forcefully removed.
It's up to you, you can go to the bank in person.
 
amani said:
at home?? lol WHATS the point?
In the masjid, where theres a womans only section? WHATS the point?
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Male non-mahrams coming over.
the possibility of a clumsy non-mahram male entering into the wrong section?
 
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