what do u think about the war in iraq>>>

Assalamu-alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatu

Bin Laden getting his hands on what? The oil ir the weapons cos there are no nuclear weapons in Iraq. That was discovered ages ago.
There are nuclear weapons which have been made known to the media. Perhaps US and other foreign intelligence agencies no different. I don't know, nor spend to much time pondering the issue. Nonetheless, I've seen on TV (lol) recently that Al-qaida had a training camp on the Iraq/Iran border, and of course several of the individuals who are active in terrorism had close ties to Saddam.
 
The war in Iraq is about gaining power by attacking innocent defenceless people. we know what the agenda os the west (not as a whole) because Alhamdulilah there are people dead against the war. as for Saddam's regime, do you know the reality of Abu Ghraib prison. do you know what our brothers and sisters are facing there. look at the state of Iraq today. if you ask majority of Iraqis they say they preferred it before. come on who would want to be occupied by foreign bullies pointing guns towards you whenever they feel like it.
 
Well Sister, are those soldiers worth any respect who kill their own ppls? Just count how many innocent iraqis have been killed by those pious mujahideens and compare them to american casuality. figures can be surprising. What is logic of killing ur own ppls for whom u are fighting the war? anyone tell me than I m ready to apologise.



Brother I will be the happiest man if mujahids beat americans and throw them out of their country. But it should be done by killing americans who have occupied their land and not by killing innocent iraqis. And brother are u sure that every arab government were oppressing their ppls in same fashion as saddam was doing? plz name a few governments to be more clear, I m sorry that I m that ignorant to miss the news. :confused:

didnt u read my last post? the mujahdeen only target americans and pple working for em not civilians, they always take responsiblty for such attacks but NEVER have they taken resposiblity on attacks that were delibertly on civilians NOT ONCE... most of the time they deny them as well... so who is doing these civilian killings? type in "british agents in basra" on google and you will get a hint... now there is also sectarian violence by the popolation its self on both sides because of these provocations and u cant blame the mujahdeen for that

about the arab govs, almost all of them torture,imprison or kill anyone thats decedent to their beleives or want an islamic state.... look at tajikastan the dictator there cooks pple alive in prisons.. or chechnia with same widespread torture and genecide... i would think u should know these before
 
didnt u read my last post? the mujahdeen only target americans and pple working for em not civilians, they always take responsiblty for such attacks but NEVER have they taken resposiblity on attacks that were delibertly on civilians NOT ONCE... most of the time they deny them as well... so who is doing these civilian killings? type in "british agents in basra" on google and you will get a hint... now there is also sectarian violence by the popolation its self on both sides because of these provocations and u cant blame the mujahdeen for that

about the arab govs, almost all of them torture,imprison or kill anyone thats decedent to their beleives or want an islamic state.... look at tajikastan the dictator there cooks pple alive in prisons.. or chechnia with same widespread torture and genecide... i would think u should know these before

Brother, I disagree with U in giving clean chit to mujahideen for killing of civilians. I doubt whether anyone else than mujahideen have the guts to blow themselves up. ALLAH knows the best. And which islamic laws suggests that civilians working for Iraqi government/americans are not civilians and worthy of bombings?

In fact brother, Islamic ideology of violent protest has been proven a failure, its high time that those wanting freedom from america should change their modus oprandi. The way mujahideens are working right now is only helping American for their cause ie staying as long as possible in Iraq. Had this kind of resistance not been into place, I guess Americans would have long fled Iraq. I sincerely feel that what Islam needs today is a leader like Mahatma Gandhi. His ideology of non violent protest would have worked wonders for muslims in places like Iraq and palestine etc. And that too without that much loss of lives. False ego is not more precious than innocent human lives.

But good to share ur point of view brother on this issue, thanks for that.

Peace.
 
didnt u read my last post? the mujahdeen only target americans and pple working for em not civilians, they always take responsiblty for such attacks but NEVER have they taken resposiblity on attacks that were delibertly on civilians NOT ONCE... most of the time they deny them as well... so who is doing these civilian killings? type in "british agents in basra" on google and you will get a hint... now there is also sectarian violence by the popolation its self on both sides because of these provocations and u cant blame the mujahdeen for that

The British government does not pay enough for people to blow themselves up. When a mosque is destroyed because of a suicide bomber, there is only one group that could possibly be to blame. And Abu Zarqawi has openly admitted to such attacks. Why would you deny that?

about the arab govs, almost all of them torture,imprison or kill anyone thats decedent to their beleives or want an islamic state.... look at tajikastan the dictator there cooks pple alive in prisons.. or chechnia with same widespread torture and genecide... i would think u should know these before

Actually it is Uzbekistan that allegedly boiled a guy to death.
 
war shudda neva happened. The fact that it did was for a stupid reason. Weopens of mass destruction where neva presented. Iraq was never a threat. Bush is not straight. Bush luks like a monkey. Bush should be thrown into a well!!!

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I am a former United States Marine. I was in Kuwait for "Operation Desert Storm" from 1990 till 1991. I was not a Muslim then. Actually that was my first taste of the true religion! The war then was nessesary because Iraq invaded Kuwait for no reason. This war is foolish! The U.S. had no business going over there trying to say what a ruler can and cannot due, or if they can have certain weapons. We have them...so who are we to say some other country can't! We need to learn to let countries handle their own internal affairs...because we have our own that need to be addressed!
 
well bro we should not backbite about ''bush'' although he is not here nor can hear us so it's not right cause our beloved god is can see us so it's not right! :'(

even though we may not like him it does not gave us the oppertunity to backbite about him or say stuff about him:heated: :heated: :heated:

please try to understand bro and i am sorry if i said anything that is not right my intention is not to offend you nor make you upset

take care
 
The British government does not pay enough for people to blow themselves up. When a mosque is destroyed because of a suicide bomber, there is only one group that could possibly be to blame.


haha sucide bomber? maybe read the news. the gov ministry concluded that men bypassed the security at that mosque, digged 4 holes in pillars of the mosque and planted explosives which was detonated by remote control, they said it was a very sophisticated operation carried out by experts.. brush up on ur info will u? i can search for source for this but i got go now.


And Abu Zarqawi has openly admitted to such attacks. Why would you deny that?

source for this?




Actually it is Uzbekistan that allegedly boiled a guy to death.

yes thank you, its still a muslim country
 
Brother, I disagree with U in giving clean chit to mujahideen for killing of civilians. I doubt whether anyone else than mujahideen have the guts to blow themselves up. ALLAH knows the best. And which islamic laws suggests that civilians working for Iraqi government/americans are not civilians and worthy of bombings?

In fact brother, Islamic ideology of violent protest has been proven a failure, its high time that those wanting freedom from america should change their modus oprandi. The way mujahideens are working right now is only helping American for their cause ie staying as long as possible in Iraq. Had this kind of resistance not been into place, I guess Americans would have long fled Iraq. I sincerely feel that what Islam needs today is a leader like Mahatma Gandhi. His ideology of non violent protest would have worked wonders for muslims in places like Iraq and palestine etc. And that too without that much loss of lives.
Peace.

Mahatma Gandhi, i dont think so. islam is not a pasifist religion. dont allege mujahdeen are killing civilinas without any proofs plz, and yes pple working for occupation are just advancing their cause which kills iraqi resistance so they are not civilians.
 
Mahatma Gandhi, i dont think so. islam is not a pasifist religion. dont allege mujahdeen are killing civilinas without any proofs plz, and yes pple working for occupation are just advancing their cause which kills iraqi resistance so they are not civilians.


that is so true bro good say :happy:

take care
 
When a mosque is destroyed because of a suicide bomber, there is only one group that could possibly be to blame. And Abu Zarqawi has openly admitted to such attacks. Why would you deny that?

The Mujahideen Shura Council (Zarqawi) NEVER claimed responsibility for the destruction of the mosque. The statement they released that caused people to believe they were responsible is as follows:

Everyone has already seen how the attacks of the deviant Shia have decreased against the lives of Ahl Al-Sunnah, but their call to "nationalism" has not ceased, nor their cries for it, nor their flattery for the heads of disbelief, by criticizing and condemning the strike against the deified idol of Samara – even at the expense of the oneness of the Lord of all creation.

It is believed that the attack of the Golden Dome mosque was a U.S. ploy to prepare for a strike against Iran. Strategically speaking, if Iraq is too busy fighting each other, this would free the U.S. to deploy for such an attack. Strategy does happen to be one of my fortes.

Ninth Scribe
 
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haha sucide bomber? maybe read the news. the gov ministry concluded that men bypassed the security at that mosque, digged 4 holes in pillars of the mosque and planted explosives which was detonated by remote control, they said it was a very sophisticated operation carried out by experts.. brush up on ur info will u? i can search for source for this but i got go now.

I find that much more plausible. A bunch of armed men go into a Shia mosque, spend hours and hours planting explosives, covering their traces so well no one notices, and cleaning up after them, all in silence so as not to alert the guards or worshippers, and then they snuck out again.

Again I ask, is there anything so silly someone won't believe it in order to avoid admitting their own have done bad things?
 
I find that much more plausible. A bunch of armed men go into a Shia mosque, spend hours and hours planting explosives, covering their traces so well no one notices, and cleaning up after them, all in silence so as not to alert the guards or worshippers, and then they snuck out again.

Again I ask, is there anything so silly someone won't believe it in order to avoid admitting their own have done bad things?

realy? so u didnt look it up. and it was an investigation done by the US backed gov em selves on the ground so u claim u know more than em?

here a source that u might find accpetable(who knows?), even US dosnt claim it was done by MSC anymore after initialy claiming it was
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Askari_Mosque_bombing

On February 22, 2006, at 6:55am (0355 UTC), explosions occurred at Al Askari Mosque, effectively destroying its golden dome and severely damaging the mosque. Several men, one wearing a military uniform, had earlier entered the mosque, tied up the guards there and set explosives, resulting in the blast. Two bombs were set off[2][3] by five[4] to seven[5] men dressed as personnel of the Iraqi Special forces[6] who entered the shrine during the morning.[7]

No injuries were reported following the bombing. However, the northern wall of the shrine was damaged by the bombs, causing the dome to collapse and destroying three-quarters of the structure along with it.[8][9]

Following the blast, US and Iraqi forces surrounded the shrine and began searching houses in the area. Five police officers responsible for protecting the mosque were taken into custody.[10]

While a Friday curfew and appeals for restraint by religious leaders across Iraq appeared to have prevented any major outbreak of violence on Friday, in contrast to the incidents that reportedly took more than 130 lives and damaged or destroyed nearly 200 Sunni mosques on Wednesday and Thursday, experts warned that it was far too early to exhale.


Responsibility and accusations

Rather unusually for terrorist bombings in Iraq, no group has taken responsibility for the attack on the mosque. Despite the lack of information regarding the perpetrators of the attack, various institutions have issued statements regarding the incident.

USA and Israel

* Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad blamed the United States and Israel for the attack. He claimed that "these heinous acts are committed by a group of Zionists and occupiers that have failed." He warned, amid a crowd of protesters, that the United States would "not be saved from the wrath and power of the justice-seeking nations" by resorting to bombings like the one that occurred at Al Askari Mosque. [11]

* According to alertnet, Hezbollah leader Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah, speaking from the Lebanese capital, Beirut, echoed the opinions of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and accused the United States of attacking the mosque to cause tension between the Sunni Muslims and Shi'ite Muslims in the Middle East.

* Iran’s top military commander Brigadier General Mohammad-Baqer Zolqadr, the deputy commander of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC), told a gathering of senior officials, that the U.S. needs those attacks to justify the continuation of its military presence in Iraq. Zolqadr, moreover, noted that dozens of new U.S. military bases are being built in Iraq “for this reason they are constantly creating insecurity”. [1]

* Raymond McGovern of VIPS:

"The main question is Qui Bono? [sic] Who benefits from this kind of thing? You don't have to be very conspiratorial or even paranoid to suggest that there are a whole bunch of likely suspects out there and not only the Sunnis. You know, the British officers were arrested, dressed up in Arab garb, riding around in a car, so this stuff goes on." [2]



Iran

* The Majlis Shura Al-Mujahideen (Mujahideen Shura Council) have issued a statement explicitly accusing Ibrahim Al-Jaafari's "government and [his] troops, in coordination with Iran". Other factions within the insurgency have issued similar statements. [12]



Al-Qaeda or Unknown

* U.S. President George W. Bush initially implied that Al-Qaeda was responsible, but later emphasized that the perpetrators are unknown.[13]

* Al Jazeera analyst accuses the occupation authorities of gross negligence which made Samarra bombing possible. In this respect, he reminds the Western accusations against Syrian occupation of Lebanon.




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Askari_Mosque_bombing
 
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Mahatma Gandhi, i dont think so. islam is not a pasifist religion. dont allege mujahdeen are killing civilinas without any proofs plz, and yes pple working for occupation are just advancing their cause which kills iraqi resistance so they are not civilians.

Well okay brother, ur opinion noted, ALLAH will judge.
 

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