what do u think about the war in iraq>>>

The US has done nothing but bad:
they've killed off half the population, there are barely any basic human rights left to the iraqi people, there's a civil war, more insurgencies and iraq already has a government but the US and the other countrys helping still haven't left
 
laylatul qadar said:
The US has done nothing but bad:
they've killed off half the population, there are barely any basic human rights left to the iraqi people, there's a civil war, more insurgencies and iraq already has a government but the US and the other countrys helping still haven't left
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I've been led to believe, by Iraqi's, that the insurgencies are basically thugs who want a bit of power. They would be behaving like the ignorant asses they are regardless of the situation. They will eventually be controlled, and life for Iraq will become stable.
 
I don't know if there are any Iraqi's active on this forum; however, I've been told by my Iraqi friends that Iraq is relatively safe as long as you keep you mouth shut, and do not transpire to political gain. Of course there will be a few innocent civilians in the crossfire. However, this is true of criminal action anywhere, including the USA.
 
2 choices- usa leaves- Iraq descends into bloody civil war, how many civilians die then? Usa stays until new Iraq government gets control. Which would you rather? I would rather we left, and leave you muslims too it- I am sure you will be civil about restoring order.
 
irsha said:
2 choices- usa leaves- Iraq descends into bloody civil war, how many civilians die then? Usa stays until new Iraq government gets control. Which would you rather? I would rather we left, and leave you muslims too it- I am sure you will be civil about restoring order.
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I too would rather we leave now, but that is being selfish. I don't like seeing US troups injured and killed. However, I think since we started this mess, we owe it to the Iraqi's to stay until order is established.

Also, if we are actually in Iraq for "oil". I wish we'd start tapping into their supply and use it for our own selfish means. I hate paying almost $3 per gallon for gas.
 
laylatul qadar said:
but Im not saying that insugents are doing good things
killing people won't get them any where
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I agree that the killings won't get them anywhere. However, I think there is actually less opposition to the American occupation than the media leads us to believe. The insurgents do not represent the Iraqi society. I like to compare the insurgents to the misfits in society (perhaps those in our prisons) who would cause mayhem regardless of the situation.
 
The media only leads us to see the american opinions as good but the iraqi ones as crazy, unciviliesed, idiots who need american help before they wipe themselves out.

But the truth is that G.Bush is the crazy, unciviliesed, idiot who needs phycological help

He even admitted that thier intelligence on the weapons of mass destruction were wrong.
 
I don't think that the media portrays the Iraqi's as being idiots and/or uncivilized. The media does portray the insurgents as being irrational.

We can debate whether or not the US should have entered Iraq. However, there will be many opinions. There is no right answer. I think we need to instead deal with what has transpired, and work to make it positive.
 
Assalamu-alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatu

The war on Iraq was unneccessary and inhumane and I belive it was just the zionists attempt to extend their creation of the state of Israel.
 
renak said:
I too would rather we leave now, but that is being selfish. I don't like seeing US troups injured and killed. However, I think since we started this mess, we owe it to the Iraqi's to stay until order is established.

Also, if we are actually in Iraq for "oil". I wish we'd start tapping into their supply and use it for our own selfish means. I hate paying almost $3 per gallon for gas.
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$3 a gallon? Oh you poor thing, try nearly $2 a litre.

Anyway, oil was not the issue, the stupid war has cost the west much more than they will ever get back from the oil. I think there were other reasons.
spread democracy?, get rid of a destabilising government in the area?- after all saddam did start two wars, one against iran cost about 2 million lives and he did kill a lot of his own people, maybe they did think he had wmd's?, maybe they were worried about bin laden getting his hands on them?
 
Assalamu-alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatu

Bin Laden getting his hands on what? The oil ir the weapons cos there are no nuclear weapons in Iraq. That was discovered ages ago.
 
Ninth_Scribe said:
I never liked Suddam Hussein myself and I hated the idol of his likeness even more, but you shouldn't take this out on the Mujahideen - it's not really fair to blame a war on it's soldiers... anyone's soldiers. Please show a little respect.

Ninth Scribe
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Well Sister, are those soldiers worth any respect who kill their own ppls? Just count how many innocent iraqis have been killed by those pious mujahideens and compare them to american casuality. figures can be surprising. What is logic of killing ur own ppls for whom u are fighting the war? anyone tell me than I m ready to apologise.

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like it or not saddam was much more brutal than the US can be because US has to struggle to keep its media tapped about these issues... and there wasnt much motivation before because evey arab gov at the time were opressing their pple so what u expect teh mujahdeen to do? like bro said you cant expect em to save the world?? but if they beat americans the other arab governments that rely on US support will be heavily weaken as well as demorlized and that would make it easier to overthrow em
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Brother I will be the happiest man if mujahids beat americans and throw them out of their country. But it should be done by killing americans who have occupied their land and not by killing innocent iraqis. And brother are u sure that every arab government were oppressing their ppls in same fashion as saddam was doing? plz name a few governments to be more clear, I m sorry that I m that ignorant to miss the news. :confused:
 
Joe98 said:
If they work for the Americans why do they make a home made bomb???????
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Have IQs decreased over-night? Vahid didn't say "insurgents" work for Americans... not even close!

Vahid pointed out that Zarqawi's warriors don't "target" Iraqis unless THEY are caught working for the Americans.

Ninth Scribe
 
justahumane said:
Brother I will be the happiest man if mujahids beat americans and throw them out of their country. But it should be done by killing americans who have occupied their land and not by killing innocent iraqis.
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Little games of interception, lol.

The Mujahideen spared Jill Carroll in order to honor Shariah and, despite her various complaints against them (she was displeased, heaven forbid), they were merciful. The killing of the innocents is not what ANY of the warriors want, but it is the cost of war... and all parties are guilty of this!

The Swords are being commanded by the Pens... which is why I personally forgive the warriors. I do how ever, have some issues with a few of the scholars.

Ninth Scribe
 
Ayesha Rana said:
Assalamu-alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatu

The war on Iraq was unneccessary and inhumane and I belive it was just the zionists attempt to extend their creation of the state of Israel.
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This is possible, if you subscribe to conspiracy theories. I for one think they are fun.
 
irsha said:
$3 a gallon? Oh you poor thing, try nearly $2 a litre.

Anyway, oil was not the issue, the stupid war has cost the west much more than they will ever get back from the oil. I think there were other reasons.
spread democracy?, get rid of a destabilising government in the area?- after all saddam did start two wars, one against iran cost about 2 million lives and he did kill a lot of his own people, maybe they did think he had wmd's?, maybe they were worried about bin laden getting his hands on them?
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Sadaam did prove himself to be a loose cannon. This is a good point.
 

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