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Chapter Eleven​
Ibn Al-Qayyim on follwoing a School of though (Madhhab)


Ibn Al-Qayyaim said: "Does the common person have to follwo one of the well known madhhabs or not? There are two sayings regarding this:


Thats it is not obligatory upon him and this is what is correct and definite since there is nothing obligatory except what Allah, the Most High, and His Messenger have made obligatory. Neither Allah nor His Messenger have made obligatory to follow the school of thought (madhhab) of any person from the ummah and to follow him alone in the Religion.




I'll just answer this part of it, and alhamdulilah, it can be explained through the post that was made by another Moderator posted few weeks ago.
the fatwa is from Shaykh Muhammad ibn Saalih al-Uthaymeen, respected scholar among you and here he is rightly expalining an Usool in Fiqh.



Is not knowing Arabic an Excuse

Shaykh Muhammad ibn Saalih al-Uthaymeen




Barak Allaahu Feekum, is the fact that the Qur-aan was revealed in the Arabic language a justification or an excuse for non-Arabs (for not acting upon it) due to it not being revealed in their language?


No, non-Arabs do not have an excuse or a justification in that the Qur-aan is not in their language; rather it is upon them to learn the language of the Qur-aan, because if understanding the Book of Allaah or the Sunnah of the Messenger of Allaah (صلى الله عليه وعلى آله وسلم) is dependant upon learning the Arabic language, then learning Arabic becomes Waajib. This is because every action that has to be carried out, in order to be able to perform an obligation, acquires the ruling of being obligatory [or - All actions which if not performed first, an obligatory act can not be performed, acquire the ruling of being obligatory (even if they are not an obligation within themselves, such as walking to the Masjid for Salaatul Jamaa’ah (for men), since one cannot perform Jamaa’ah in the Masjid unless he walks there, the act of walking in order to get to the Masjid becomes Waajib upon that individual, and so on...)].

Fataawa Nur ‘ala ad Darb

Translator: Nadir Ahmad, Abu Abdul-Waahid
 
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:sl: Br Musalmaan,

Your post was good Masha'Allaah, but I don't agree with the following.

For the layman the safest and the God-fearing(taqwah) way to follow the shariah of Muhammad Sallallahu alaihi wa sallam is to adopt a particular madhab out of 4 (usually the scholars of madhab that are easily accesible)
I have explained this point before, and the excerpt from Ibn Qayyim's book also explains the fact that a layman cannot have a madhab. He does not have the neccasary knowledge to do the research,
Inded the common person cannot have a madhhab, even if he thinks that he does, since the common person has no madhhab at all. This is because the madhhab will be either for the one who is able to research to a certain level and understand evidence and also know about the other madhhabs or for the one who has read a book concerning the details of that madhhab and knows the ruling and saying of his Imaam.
and to do taqleed(ittiba) of the madhab
If you mean simply following a scholar of a particular Madhab then that is correct. He must do taqlid to a certain extent of the scholar,not the madhab, until he has gained the knowledge to research and examine the evidences and is able to then decide for himself which opinion he considers to be strongest.

However, for example, there is a brother who prays with his hands down (he is a Shafiee), and when he was told that the Messenger (saw) used to fold his hands, he says: "I am a Shafiee". He does not know that the reason Imam Shafiee prayed with his hands down was because he was tortured, and even Imam Shafiee writes in a book of his that the Messenger used to fold his hands. This is an example of blindly following a Madhab, and not of a scholar, and this is what is looked down upon.

Going back to an earlier post of mine,
But the layman does not have the knowledge nor the means to examine all the evidences, arguements, and opinions to judge which is more correct.
So when the scholar tells him that a particular opinion is stronger, even if the opinion is not from his (the scholar's) Madhab, then he (the layman) should follow it because that is closer to Sharia.
and finally avoid the ignorant La madhabi people or those people who confuse or put waswasa onto other that you're salaah is like jewish or is not acceptable, incomplete etc etc, just avoid them
This I agree with. And a common misconception is that 'salafis' and 'wa habbism/wa habbis' are La Madhabi and this not the case.
and stick to madhab for every action and matter that is being defined, is defined by the Quran and Hadith and the jamaah(group) of the companions of prophet.
I agree, but you have to understand that each opinion from each madhab has proof and evidence and a layman does not have the capabilities to research, understand and decide which is the strongest opinion. It is best for him to follow a scholar that he trusts and not say 'I am Hanafi' or 'I am Shafiee' etc. The problems this partisanship by the laymans has caused is great. If you were to travel to some countries, the ignorant masses fight with each other and have Wala and Bara over madahib. They do not go to a particular Masjid because the ones there follow a different Madhab. This is a sad reality. This is what Ibn Qayyim was putting down.
Even if it could be imagined it would still not be obligatory upon him or anyone else to ever have to follow the madhhab of a certain man from the ummah, to the extent that he accepts all his saying and rejects everyone else's sayings.

This is a filthy innovation introuduced tinto the ummah.
He means that the results this kind of firm sticking to one madhab cause are greater then the benefits of it.
No scholar of Islaam has ever said this and they are higher in station and better knowing about Allah than to order the people about this. Even futher from the truth is the saying of those who say that he must stick to the madhhab of a single scholar and futher still from the truth is the one who says, he must follow one of the four madhhabs! O Allah, how strange!

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Those who say that it is correct for the common person to have a madhhab claim, 'Because he believes that the madhhab which he ascribes himself to is the truth, therefore, he must be sincere to his belief.' If this saying of theirs were true then it would mean that it is forbidden to seek a ruling from anyone other than the people of his own madhhab and likewise that it is forbidden to take the madhhab of anyone equal or greater than than his own Imaam and would mean other things which all show the falsity of the belief in the first place. Indeed it would mean that if he saw a text from Allaah's Messenger or a saying from the four Caliphs with other than his own Imaam, he would have to abandon the text and the sayings of the Compainions and give precedence to the saying of his own Imaam.
And this is exactly what is occuring amongst many ignorant muslims, if they know something, and a Scholar tells them that another opinion is stronger or more correct, they will not adopt it due to the fact that they consider the opinion they are following to be more correct though they themselves do not have the sufficient knowledge to judge!

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Btw, I thought I'd quote some posts by Br. Abuz Zubair of IslamicAwakening here as they explained the issue better:
People are ranked into three categories:

1) Mujtahids, even if it be in an issue. These people must make ijtihad in issues in which they are qualified without resorting to taqlid, which for them is haram.

2) Student of knowledge
. They study a particular madhab in order to eventually reach the status of a mujtahid even if it be in one issue. In issues in which they remain non-Mujtahids, what's obligatory on them is what is obligatory on the rest of the laymen, and that is to ask any mufti they trust and make taqlid, irrespective of whatever madhab he may be from.

3) Layman (all of us here). They have absolutely nothing to do with any madhab at all whatsoever. Their entire responsibility is to approach a mufti they trust and simply make taqlid of his fatwa, irrespective of whatever madhab he is from.

http://forums.islamicawakening.com/showpost.php?p=18684&postcount=23

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According to the correct opinion and the majority, the layman's only job is to look for a qualified mufti. If he fails in that and ends up asking someone who is NOT qualified, then the layman IS to blame.

However, if he does his job, i.e. he looks for a qualified mufti and asks him the question, then technically, he has done his job, and whatever fatwa he is given he may act upon it if he wishes.

Can he ask the mufti for the evidence? Some scholars said he should, whilst the majority said that he shouldn't because a) it is considered bad manners, and he should wait and ask him in another gathering or another time, and b) evidences are of no relevance to him, rather his proof is the mufti's fatwa.

If he is not satisfied with the fatwa, he may go to a different mufti and ask him for fatwa, since a fatwa is not binding on a person especially if there is more than one mufti available.


http://forums.islamicawakening.com/showpost.php?p=18746&postcount=28

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Referring to the Book and the Sunnah are for those who understand the book and the Sunnah. Someone who does not know Arabic, has no hope of understanding most of the legal aspects of Sharia embedded in the Quran and Sunnah. Someone who knows Arabic with perfect grammar, yet does not know Usul al-Fiqh, he cannot derive rulings from texts. Someone who knows Usul al-Fiqh and Arabic, yet does not know Mustalah al-hadeeth and the science of jarh, is bound to base fiqhi rulings on mawdu'at.

Legislation process in Islam is only for those who inherit the Prophet's knowledge, and not every 'Ali, Zayd and 'Amr in the Ummah. This much is common sense.

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http://forums.islamicawakening.com/showpost.php?p=18786&postcount=36

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Rather, the correct opinion is that since the layman has no madhab, he may go to any of the muftis irrespective of his Madhab, be he a hanafi, maliki, Shafi'i or whoever, so long as he is well-known and recognised mufti in the community, the layman can refer to him, thereby fulfilling Allah's command: Ask the people of dhikr, if you know not --- that is it, no more, no less.

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http://forums.islamicawakening.com/showpost.php?p=18768&postcount=31
 
salaam,

2) Student of knowledge. They study a particular madhab in order to eventually reach the status of a mujtahid even if it be in one issue.

Why a particular madhab?
 
I wish people would click on this link that i have provided on this forum many many times..

This book seems to be referring to laymen, I am talking about a student of knowledge.

To make it easier on the student. It's easier to study one then get into another, instead of doing it all at the same time which could confuse etc.
Maybe if that person is studying Fiqh, but I don't see a need to follow a madhab if you are studying other sciences. Wallahu Alim.
 

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First of all, thanks for being nice. That was the best part of your post.

I'll just try to answer the major point of your post.

I have explained this point before, and the excerpt from Ibn Qayyim's book also explains the fact that a layman cannot have a madhab. He does not have the neccasary knowledge to do the research,

brother, when i call myself hanafi (in some specific case), then that does not mean that I am telling that I have studied all the evidences of all the four madhabs and judging according to it, rather
within the differences of Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaah, differences which is Haq, i am following tha hanafi Mujhtahideen and I am taking their rulings.

like one of your shaykh fatwa (right now i am not able to search that fatwa) that layman's madhabs is the madhab of the scholars he refers.

so also through this i am hanafi (in terms of fiqh, madhab) as my all scholars here are hanafi. I do not take any opinions from other madhab even though i respect them love them and their scholars and they are the scholar of this ummah, but for me Imam Abu Hanfia rahimahulla and those who followed his Usool is enough for me to learn shariah (salaah, haj, fasts, purity etc etc). this is not hisbiyyah, or one should not get offended over it.

A glimpse of Sahabah (companions of prophet) and Tabaein era recorded in Bukhari.

Imam Bukhari narrates from Ikrimah that the people of Madinah asked Ibn Abbas about a woman who, during Hajj, makes her first tawwaf and then enters her menstrual period before she can make her final tawwaf. Ibn Abbas told them that she could go home without completing her final tawwaf. The people of Madinah said,“We will not take your opinion over the opinion of Zaid ibn Thabit.

Source - a recent fatwa in askimam.org


However, for example, there is a brother who prays with his hands down (he is a Shafiee), and when he was told that the Messenger (saw) used to fold his hands, he says: "I am a Shafiee". He does not know that the reason Imam Shafiee prayed with his hands down was because he was tortured, and even Imam Shafiee writes in a book of his that the Messenger used to fold his hands. This is an example of blindly following a Madhab, and not of a scholar, and this is what is looked down upon.

Actually here it's proving blindly following a scholar rather than madhab, for if he was following the madhab he would follow the matter written on books or told by scholars.

And a common misconception is that 'salafis' and 'wa habbism/wa habbis' are La Madhabi and this not the case.

brother, there is difference between salafi and hanbali. there is also difference between wahaabee and salafi. You can confirm to this with hanbali scholar. i dont want to go in its detail.

I feel the later of all your post is the summary of the following. so i'll just reply to it.

And this is exactly what is occuring amongst many ignorant muslims, if they know something, and a Scholar tells them that another opinion is stronger or more correct, they will not adopt it due to the fact that they consider the opinion they are following to be more correct though they themselves do not have the sufficient knowledge to judge!

i agree, and thats the point which need to be understood. when he do not have the sufficient knowledge to judge then how can he judge that scholar A is really with the stronger opinion?? when he himself didnt study all the eveidences related to it?

I hope you understand that practically.

If i know some layman is in shafii madhab (thats he take the opinion of mujhtahideen in that madhab), i will never tease him or say this is makrooh, this is wrong, or raf'al'dayn within salaah was being abrogated later in prophet 's life etc etc, i'll never do that because i know he is following the mujhtahideen and Even if he is wrong insha'ALlah, by the mercy of Allah Taala, they are being still rewarded, for they are sincere in their religion and following the right way.

but ofcourse, if some non-muqallid (whatever label they keep) approach to me then my attitude to them will not remain similar. thats the major problem with the non-muqallid, they become the source of fitnah and fasaad where ever they go, they do thing against the sunnah which is established in that region part. in pakistan they speak against hanafi madhab, in sri lanka they speak against shafi madhab. Thats why they are being disliked by the scholars as well majority of the people.


One companion of prophet lead a long salaah in jamaat, such that few companions broke the salaah and went off, some came to prophet and complain about that's companion lenghty salaah, our prophet showed his anger towards that companion and marked it as fitnah. Praying long salaah is praiseworthy but when it becomes the source of disunity prophet disliked it. Now, sunnah which is established in particualr country (say hanafi madhab in south east asia) but some outsider comes and speak against that sunnah and marked it as biddah then they will not be termed as khidmah of Hadith but a source of fasaad and fitnah. One should really sincere and follow the right way, insha'Allah the destination is same the way may be slightly different but our ultimate guide is Quran and Sunnah, and some furoo masaail we agree to disagree, and by the baakah of this, prophet's every sunnah is alive and is being carried out by his followers. sallallahu alaihi wa sallam.


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I agree that I really do not have a madhab, nor I have anything like a local imam that I an go to who knows about fiqh, but I listen and learn from few people I trust.

However I do not take any of the madhab,
or say "I am from any madhab and I will not listen to you in a particular issue even if you have stronger evidence"

So if you know that the other madhab has a stronger evidence and it is clear, than take it. (The Key word is "know")

because:

They (Jews and Christians) took their rabbis and their monks to be their lords besides Allaah (by obeying them in things which they made lawful or unlawful according to their own desires without being ordered by Allaah), and (they also took as their Lord) Messiah, son of Maryam (Mary), while they (Jews and Christians) were commanded [in the Tawraat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel)] to worship none but One Ilaah (God — Allaah) Laa ilaaha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He). Praise and glory be to Him (far above is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him)”

[al-Tawbah 9:31]
 
I agree that I really do not have a madhab, nor I have anything like a local imam that I an go to who knows about fiqh, but I listen and learn from few people I trust.

you are listening and learning from few people you trust so thus we. If Scholar of Islamic Jurisprudence come to know that Hadith is saheeh, then why he will listen to other, and Muqallid of that mujhtahid will follow him.

I feel like practically there is no arguement, everybody is on same track and theoritically it can be become long arguements with only theories, claiming something else and doing something else.
 
:w: Br Musalmaan,
brother, when i call myself hanafi (in some specific case), then that does not mean that I am telling that I have studied all the evidences of all the four madhabs and judging according to it, rather
within the differences of Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaah, differences which is Haq, i am following tha hanafi Mujhtahideen and I am taking their rulings.
When this happens amongst a large amount of laymen, this leads to the partisanship and I gave examples in my last post. The layman does not need a madhab, all that is his duty is to seek a scholar he trusts and make taqlid of the fatwa he recieves.
According to the correct opinion and the majority, the layman's only job is to look for a qualified mufti. If he fails in that and ends up asking someone who is NOT qualified, then the layman IS to blame.
And this is also the most simple thing for a layman, instead of trying to find a Hanafi scholar, he can simply refer to one he trusts and take his opinion. And then his duty is done.
like one of your shaykh fatwa (right now i am not able to search that fatwa) that layman's madhabs is the madhab of the scholars he refers.
Yes, I have said this in my previous posts. And the subtle point to understand is that, the scholar that he refers to can be from any madhab and may give rulings on that which he feels is the strongest opinion. Thus some times giving a Shafiee opinion, and other times a Hanbali one and this is to the extent of his knowledge.

Another point to note is that the layman has no concern with the Madahib because he lacks the knowledge to understand them. Referring to the Book and the Sunnah are for those who understand the book and the Sunnah.

so also through this i am hanafi (in terms of fiqh, madhab) as my all scholars here are hanafi.
It's better that you say, 'The scholars I refer to are Hanafi'. That would be more precise.
I do not take any opinions from other madhab even though i respect them love them and their scholars and they are the scholar of this ummah, but for me Imam Abu Hanfia rahimahulla and those who followed his Usool is enough for me to learn shariah (salaah, haj, fasts, purity etc etc). this is not hisbiyyah, or one should not get offended over it.
But the question remains, how do you know Imam Abu Hanifa's methadology in his rulings to claim to be his follower? This can only be done by one who has studied the madhab itself and this was explained before.
A glimpse of Sahabah (companions of prophet) and Tabaein era recorded in Bukhari.
Imam Bukhari narrates from Ikrimah that the people of Madinah asked Ibn Abbas about a woman who, during Hajj, makes her first tawwaf and then enters her menstrual period before she can make her final tawwaf. Ibn Abbas told them that she could go home without completing her final tawwaf. The people of Madinah said,“We will not take your opinion over the opinion of Zaid ibn Thabit.

Source - a recent fatwa in askimam.org
Br. Abuz Zubair's post refers to this as well.
If he is not satisfied with the fatwa, he may go to a different mufti and ask him for fatwa, since a fatwa is not binding on a person especially if there is more than one mufti available.
So this is what they did.

Actually here it's proving blindly following a scholar rather than madhab, for if he was following the madhab he would follow the matter written on books or told by scholars.
Note he ascribes himself to the madhab, not the scholar. He says: "I am a Shafiee" assuming this is the official opinion of the Shafiee madhab.

brother, there is difference between salafi and hanbali. there is also difference between wahaabee and salafi. You can confirm to this with hanbali scholar. i dont want to go in its detail.
Br. Abuz Zubair actually explained this point in that thread I linked to i above. He says:
The reason why most of the Salafis are Hanbalis is precisely because nearly all of the Hanbalis are Salafis. And if it wasn't for the mu'tazili and/or maturidi hijacking of the Hanafi madhab, and Ash'ari hijacking of the Shafi'i and Maliki madhab, the vast majority of them, too, would be Salafis.
But let's not get into this Insha'Allaah. Salafis = Those that follow the way of the Salaf. Not the modern day Hizb called 'The Salafis'.
There is the way of the salaf, and there is a party (hizb) called "the salafis".​
Explanation, see here:
http://www.islamicboard.com/sects-divisions/32641-leave-hisbiyah-sectarianism.html
I feel the later of all your post is the summary of the following. so i'll just reply to it.
I agree with the rest of your post for the most part.
 
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:w: Br Musalmaan,
The layman does not need a madhab, all that is his duty is to seek a scholar he trusts and make taqlid of the fatwa he recieves.


hmm .. Do you know what is talfeeq? anytime in your life heard of it. :)


secondly, do you know what really the ignorant masses doing. a big fitnah that has spread out widely in india/pakistan (n else where Allah hu alam) that husband after giving her wife three talaaqs in one sitting, later realizing and reverting back, he go on with asking the Non-muqallid Muftis (there are some non-muqallid present here) only because those husbands know that non-muqallid mufti give fatwa of one talaaq for three talaaqs. I am not going into debate with you (if you are also with the same ruling that three talaaq is really one talaaq) but all the four Khulfah Raashidoun Hazrat Abu Bakr Siddique r.a, Umer r.a Usman r.a Ali r.a, AND all the four Aima Mujhtahids i.e Imam Abu Hanifa r.a, Imam Maalik r.a , Imaam Shafai'i r.a and Imam Ahmed ibn Hmabal r.a gave the fatwa that three talaaq in one sitting is three talaaq,

but since that faasiq needs his own answer he choose his own people.


Thats the problem which is happening by abondaning taqleed. Fasaad of 8 rakaah taraweeh is widely knowm.



Br. Abuz Zubair actually explained this point in that thread I linked to i above.

thats funny.
Dont ask the person who himself is (psuedo) salafi, if you ask shia if Khoomeini is not ayatullah, ofcourse he answers affirmativetly.

Ask hanbali scholar if you have met any one of them.


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salaam,

but some outsider comes and speak against that sunnah and marked it as biddah then they will not be termed as khidmah of Hadith but a source of fasaad and fitnah.
What if it really is a biddah? Then they will be doing their duty as Muslims.

but for me Imam Abu Hanfia rahimahulla and those who followed his Usool is enough for me to learn shariah (salaah, haj, fasts, purity etc etc).
Why does your sharia have to be according to Abu Hanifa's understanding?

Do you know what is talfeeq?
No, what is it?
 
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First of all let me declare that I respect and admire Br. Al-Madani, It won't be an exaggeration If I was to say I love him for sake of Allah Ta'ala, for he has shown me (and others) nothing but kindness and respect. Yet I can't think how I can defend him in face of insult without being done for being off-topic/sectarian .etc.

So instead I am going to attempt to use the forum rules to see if that helps me.

Here goes...
Faq > General Guidelines > Post Etiquettes > Post Content
9. Beef will not be tolerated in any forum. Differences in opinion are expected, but please debate respectfully. (Beef are comments made for the purpose of insulting somebody else with negative intent, looking for a negative reaction, or blatantly insulting somebody)
hmm .. Do you know what is talfeeq? anytime in your life heard of it.
Is this not a blatant insult against Br. Al-Madani? Is this person not implying that we shop for fataawa?


12.This is not a Fiqh discussion board. Prolonged threads arguing over Fatwas and the details of Islamic law will be closed.
Has this tread not become just that?


18. Do not say "Islam says X" unless your position is based upon sound evidence - which means the Qur'an and the Sunnah. Always cite your sources. If quoting the Qur'an, give Surah (chapter) and ayah (verse) number. For ahadeeth, you must the name of the collection, volume/book number and hadeeth number.
do you know what really the ignorant masses doing. a big fitnah that has spread out widely in india/pakistan (n else where Allah hu alam) that husband after giving her wife three talaaqs in one sitting, later realizing and reverting back, he go on with asking the Non-muqallid Muftis (there are some non-muqallid present here) only because those husbands know that non-muqallid mufti give fatwa of one talaaq for three talaaqs. I am not going into debate with you (if you are also with the same ruling that three talaaq is really one talaaq) but all the four Khulfah Raashidoun Hazrat Abu Bakr Siddique r.a, Umer r.a Usman r.a Ali r.a, AND all the four Aima Mujhtahids i.e Imam Abu Hanifa r.a, Imam Maalik r.a , Imaam Shafai'i r.a and Imam Ahmed ibn Hmabal r.a gave the fatwa that three talaaq in one sitting is three talaaq,

but since that faasiq needs his own answer he choose his own people.


Thats the problem which is happening by abondaning taqleed. Fasaad of 8 rakaah taraweeh is widely knowm.
where does he give sources/evidences

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salaam,


What if it really is a biddah? Then they will be doing their duty as Muslims.
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Those matter are not of issue of biddah, but there is difference of opinions over it in madhabs. These fasaadi, in the name of islaah, try to show that hanafi is rejecting hadith for Imam Abu Hanifa's opinion. Maybe it will be surprise for you to kow that they also distributed books and pamphlet that those who do not do rafa'al dain in salaah are kaafir. they became such extremous in their shar and fasaad. but alhamdulilah due to barakah of madarsa here their influence has remained limited.

Why does your sharia have to be according to Abu Hanifa's understanding?

do you want us to follow POPE understanding rabbi understanding, BUSH's understaning tony blairs, tom cruise or shahrukh khan understanding??? whose understanding you want us to follow.

We follow Imam Abu Hanifa r.a in term interpretation of shariah for we feel he was the most knowledgeable, most pious, most brilliant scholar, among the tabaein and He was absolute Mujhtahid and later mujtahid follow his usool in interprating shariah laws, so we take them in learning shariah.

secondly, Imam Abu Hanifa r.a is the teacher directly or indirectly of Imam like Imam Maalik r.a Imam Shafai r.a Imam Ahmed ibn Hanbal r.a Im am Bukhari, Imam Muslim Abu dawud trimize etc, so his greatness also become due to itis fact.

thirdly, Imam Abu Hanfia rahimahulla has been referred Imam Azam by all the scholars in field of islamic science.

These are some of reasons we follow their interpretation and not our own interpretation. About 70% of ummah have been following Hanafi madhab which also show its acceptance in the court of Allah.

Their interpreation is what they learn from sahabah, the companion of prophet, who directly learn the revelation of Allah from His messenger.

The deen completed in the time of prophet, (surah maidah),
the khulfah Rashideen period was the establishment of deen of ALlah (Surah Noor)
and in era of tabaein and taba abaein the era was compilation of all the matter of deen as understood and implemented by the jamaah of companion of prophet Muhammad sallalahu alaihi wa sallam.

and later generation follow them in guidance, for they truly were the guided ones.

Almighty Allah is the protector of His deen.

No, what is it?

A good explaination here,

Verdict on Taqleed (Adherence)
 
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Six pages on and there is no verdict or any agreement, as a matter of fact things are only starting to heat up now. I think it would be beneficial if this thread was closed, momentarily at least until everyone has calmed down and had time to reflect over what they have written.

Please let us remember we are not scholars and we should constantly be aware of what we write to ensure we do not wrong ourselves.

May Allaah grant our scholars paradise and may Allaah forgive us for the sins we commit knowingly and unknowingly.

Jazakallaah khayr

Until further notice, :threadclo
 
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