where do christians think anti-christ will come froM?

[Muslim Knight]

From both Muslim and Christian sources, Dajjal supposes to be a human being, isnt it?

I don't think so. He has existed even since the time of the Prophet Muhammad. There is a hadith of Tamim Dari, a Muslim who converted from Christianity, who in his travels actually met with Dajjal. He later told about this to the Prophet.

If Dajjal has existed from that point of time to the End of Times, then it is most probably he is not human. He is an evil being created by God, and he possess great powers with which to deceive men into following him. He may appear as a human being. He will even impersonate as the Messiah which the Jews will come to follow. That is why he is named Dajjal Al-Masih (The False Messiah).

 

[Pukandi baba]

from Rome.. the vatican

Ooooh is it the pope? :giggling:

 

[HeiGou]

Ooooh is it the pope? :giggling:

Christians have usually interpreted the Anti-Christ to be their enemy of the day. So many Protestants usually claim that the Pope is, in fact, the Anti-Christ. The Reverend Iain Paisley for instance does to this day.

Personally I think it is a description of America but that is just me. Whoops, there goes my visa chances.

 

[Pukandi baba]

Christians have usually interpreted the Anti-Christ to be their enemy of the day. So many Protestants usually claim that the Pope is, in fact, the Anti-Christ. The Reverend Iain Paisley for instance does to this day.

Personally I think it is a description of America but that is just me. Whoops, there goes my visa chances.

You mean Dubya Bush? He's the antichrist? LOL

 

[jss]

You mean Dubya Bush? He's the antichrist? LOL

Well I guess most ppl on here would agree with me that Bush is too slow off the mark to be.

 

[Nicola]

Ooooh is it the pope? :giggling:

It's the man made church-state religio-political power
We are told in Daniel...

Dan 7:25 He shall speak words against the Most High, and shall wear out the saints of the Most High, and shall think to change the times and the law; and they shall be given into his hand for a time, times, and half a time.

which other religious leaders set themselves up at the Almighty God?

Pope Innocent III (1198-1216) wrote: "We may according to the fullness of our power, dispose of the law and dispense above the law. Those whom the Pope of Rome doth separate, it is not a man that separates them but God. For the Pope holdeth place on earth, not simply of a man but of the true God." (1 Book of Gregory 9 Decret. c.3)

The Lateran Council addressing Pope Julius II in an oration delivered by Marcellus said: "Take care that we lose not that salvation, that life and breath which thou hast given us, for thou art our shepherd, thou art our physician, thou art our governor, thou art our husbandman, thou art finally another God on earth." (Council Edition. Colm. Agrip. 1618)

Pope Nicholas said of himself: "I am in all and above all, so that God Himself and I, the vicar of God, hath both one consistory, and I am able to do almost all that God can do…wherefore, if those things that I do be said not to be done of man, but of God, what do you make of me but God? Again, if prelates of the Church be called of Constantine for gods, I then being above all prelates, seem by this reason to be above all gods. Wherefore, no marvel, if it be in my power to dispense with all things, yea with the precepts of Christ." (Decret. par. Distinct 96 ch. 7 edit. Lugo 1661)

The RC New York catechism states: "The Pope takes the place of Jesus Christ on earth…by divine right the Pope has supreme and full power in faith, in morals over each and every pastor and his flock. He is the true vicar, the head of the entire church, the father and teacher of all Christians. He is the infallible ruler, the founder of dogmas, the author of and the judge of councils; the universal ruler of truth, the arbiter of the world, the supreme judge of heaven and earth, the judge of all, being judged by no one, God himself on earth.

The title "Lord God the Pope" - these words appeared in the Canon Law of Rome. "To believe that our Lord God the Pope has not the power to decree as he is decreed, is to be deemed heretical." (The Gloss extravagances of Pope John XXII Cum. Inter, tit XIV Ad Callem Sexti Decretalium, Paris, 1685)

Writers on Canon Law say: "The Pope and God are the same, so he has all power in Heaven and earth." (Barclay Cap. XXVII p. 218 Cities Petrus Bertanous, Pius V)

Pope Nicholas I declared that "the appellation of God had been confirmed by Constantine on the Pope, who being God, cannot be judged by man." (Labb IX Dist.: 96 Can 7 Satis Evidentur Decret Gratian Primer Para)

Which religion killed Gods saints? we only at to read the history of the RCC.
Which religon changed Gods times and law? From a Saturday to a Sunday day of rest?

Dan 8:25 By his cunning he shall make deceit prosper under his hand, and in his own mind he shall become great. Without warning he shall destroy many. And he shall even rise up against the Prince of princes, and he shall be broken--but by no human hand.

God will destroy this false religion in the book of Revelation we are told God will call his people out of Babylon...Babylon is all false worship.

Rev 18:4 Then I heard another voice from heaven saying, "Come out of her, my people, lest you take part in her sins, lest you share in her plagues;

 

[north_malaysian]

Christians have usually interpreted the Anti-Christ to be their enemy of the day. So many Protestants usually claim that the Pope is, in fact, the Anti-Christ. The Reverend Iain Paisley for instance does to this day.

Personally I think it is a description of America but that is just me. Whoops, there goes my visa chances.

Your view is just like most Muslims - AMERICA. Hmmm.... I doubt Bush is the anti-christ - he's not popular.

 

[starfortress]

Peace to Bro & Sis


‘…But I will tell you something which no Prophet has told his people.Verily he (Dajjal) is one-eyed and Allah is not one-eyed.’

(Bukhari)

 

[- Qatada -]

Hei Gou, this topic isn't about who dajjal is, but where he's from.


Stay on topic.

 

[syilla]

you will never know his evils... he is very witty

 

[syilla]

i know he will not be in Mecca and Madinah...

but will he travel and go to America?:?

 

[Muezzin]

If I wasn't Muslim, I'd think that the Anti-Christ would come from Saffron Lane.

Or Birmingham.

 

[ACC]

from Rome.. the vatican

Never heard this except from the most fervent anti-Catholics.

 

[- Qatada -]

i know he will not be in Mecca and Madinah...

but will he travel and go to America?:?

:salamext:


From what i've heard in lectures and from the ahadith i have read - he will travel the whole world except Makkah and Medina. Allaah Almighty knows best.


:wasalamex

 

[ACC]

It's the man made church-state religio-political power
We are told in Daniel...



which other religious leaders set themselves up at the Almighty God?


Which religion killed Gods saints? we only at to read the history of the RCC.
Which religon changed Gods times and law? From a Saturday to a Sunday day of rest?

God will destroy this false religion in the book of Revelation we are told God will call his people out of Babylon...Babylon is all false worship.

There have been bad Pope's, but then again, luther thought satan was trying to enter him through his anus and would fling human waste at satan in his 'visions'. Now it is a common error of non-Catholics to believe that Catholics worship the Pope. He is greatly respected, but is seen as the representative of Christ on Earth, not as Christ though. Very big difference. Calling Catholics 'Papists is similiar to calling Muslims "Mohammedens' (I know no one called Catholics Papists here, but showing an example).

 

[4-Christ-Alone]

hello friends

Interestinging thread, i have been told, but i dont know what this is based on, that the anti-christ would come from brussels, like i sayed i dont know what basis this is on, im sure some1 on God tv said so, but if any of you know more please elaberate.

I have also herd, and this does make sense to me, that satan is waiting on God moving in the gog magog war, the russian lead attack in isreal that is prophisised in Daniel, befoere he brings the anti-christ onto the scene, im sure the anti-chrst will bring peace to isreal aswell i think, what better time than after a major attack on it intercepted by God himself. i dont know if these suggestings are scriptural or just suggestions, but i will be sure to check.

Peace

Sean

 

[syilla]

:salamext:


From what i've heard in lectures and from the ahadith i have read - he will travel the whole world except Makkah and Medina. Allaah Almighty knows best.


:wasalamex

then he must be there...hmm....:rollseyes

 

[north_malaysian]

The most popular radio morning program in Malaysia HITZ.FM did some jokings about tomorrow - 06/06/06 = 666

 

[syilla]

hahaha.... i remember watching that movies

 

[syilla]

Dajjal is already in this earth rite?

We just don't know who is he rite?

When you hear that the Dajjal has appeared, flee him. Because a person may go to his side while yet intending to deny him, but will remain and follow him. That is because there are many things with the Dajjal that fill the heart with misgivings. Abu Dawud, 14.

source :
http://www.harunyahya.com/articles/messiah_dajjal.html#notes