which religion ( for Agnostics and theists-- eh maybe Atheists?)

[barney]

I dont beleive a deitey needs it either.
Just that Islam stated he required/ordained it. just semantics really.

Sorry if i bored you with my level of fatigue. Your level of fatigue diddnt have that effect on me!

Anyway, g'night all.

 

[جوري]

OOOps, I hate to bring this up. i just realised that by allowing theists to vote on this poll the poll is skewed to be against theists as we are in essence directing our votes against what we believe. I believe this would be more telling if the poll was limited to Agnostics and atheists and to kick us with a theistic belief off of the poll.

lol so true... I have been so engrossed in the replies..I am sorry I missed yours akhi... it is always refreshing to read like a mellow iced peach smoothie in the midst of all those ulcer inducing tomato juices... I think the thread has served its purposes-- akhi if you don't mind go ahead and close it
thank you

 

[snakelegs]

Prayer is in fact what makes the difference between us and the kuffar-- it is true! a constant connection is needed (mandated)
I didn't pray for yrs... my parents tried everything... fear.. punishment .. the more they tried the more refractory I became... and that is why the verse states it is (kabeera) literally big (overwhelming) except for those who are humble... in fact You can always fake you are praying it isn't so difficult.. the same for fasting-- if you are not willingly doing it, do you think it matters? it has to come from the heart to be accepted anyway... when you are young you should get into the habit, sort of like washing your hands before dindin... but to actually perform it, the level you do for a deep connection with G-D is something achieved by so few do at that great a level of dedication... but like I said with every prayer is a chance to improve and ask forgiveness... G-D can be your friend. I don't think many people understand what that means... or how profound it is.

peace!

this makes sense to me. being born and raised in a religion does not preclude you carrying it out with intent or worshipping from your heart, as you have shown.
i really like the meaning of salat!

 

[جوري]

صِلَة from salat =
reinforcements , endowment , donation , granting , gift , grant , grace

liaison , bearing , relation , tie-in , tie , relationship , relevance , connectedness , linkage , linkup , link , pertinence , nexus , yoke , association , concern , contact , connection , conjunction , relation

I know if you just put the word prayer or salat you'd get the usual (litany or supplication)... but the meaning of the word not the act is as described above... I am really glad you learned something from me for a change lol
:-[

peace!

 

[snakelegs]

is it the same root as silsila?

 

[جوري]

is it the same root as silsila?

silsila means series...

سلسلة​

silsilah

graded , concatenated , consecutive , continuous , concatenation , series ..

 

[snakelegs]

a series is a group of connected items, isn't it? that's why i thought the words were related.
thanks!

 

[جوري]

yes I suppose... it is just one is with a saad and the other with a seen hehe

ص​

Saad

س​

Seen

sort of like the difference between an S and a C.. Salat would start with S where is Silsilah would be with a c (cilcila) lol

But I can actually understand exactly where you are coming from when making that conclusion. !
peace!

 

[snakelegs]

aha! yet another Brilliant Language Theory shattered!
thanks.

 

[ranma1/2]

For me buddhism is fine and I have a reasonable interests in it.
What should a buddhists atheists pick? Or a shinto?

There are differences between spirits and a god i would think.

 

[Vishnu]

Lol, I voted I want to see the poll results. I'm supirsed by the outcome though.

 

[Woodrow]

Lol, I voted I want to see the poll results. I'm supirsed by the outcome though.

LOL not as big of a surprise as it would seem. since most members are Muslim and most of the ones who voted are Muslim, we had to vote for something other than Islam as the way the question is worded.

 

[AmarFaisal]

Assalamoalaikum,

Alhamdulillah I am a Muslim.

But as a child as I studied in a christian school run by nuns and only for girls, I was fascinated by christianity, the one that the nuns practicised. Even today when I think abt them, they were excellent personalities, soft spoken, very delicate, I just loved them.

As a child, even though I grew up in a muslim country and had a Moulivi teach me Quran from an early age, my parents took it for granted that I'd know abt Allah. But some times at school and at home our elders don't emphasise that talking to ur children friendlily abt Allah is important. To tell them why we r Muslims, Who is Allah etc. Our education starts from Quran, prayers, fasting. learning sorahs..but lacks a genuine discussion abt Islam (in a child's context).

I often thought and asked my mother why we weren't christians, as the christians go to church in beautiful clothes and have dances, whereas we don't!

My mother would only scold me for saying that and threat me that if I say it again she's gonna smack me hard. But where is the explanation abt Islam???!!

 

[Snowflake]

i don't believe in an afterlife because nothing in my experience has indicated its existence.

Hi Snake legs, I read your reply enthusiastically, but this part was interesting to me the most. Before you were conceived and perhaps even before you were born there was nothing that indicated to you that you will come into this world. But you did. Then similarly, although you find no indication of an after-life, don't you think there is a strong possibility that you will be resurrected again?

 

[Vishnu]

LOL not as big of a surprise as it would seem. since most members are Muslim and most of the ones who voted are Muslim, we had to vote for something other than Islam as the way the question is worded.

Woodrow, we are refering to different things. I am commenting on how so many agnostics and atheists in the west would join a eastern religion that deals with reincarnation like Budhism. That was the suprise.

 

[Woodrow]

Woodrow, we are refering to different things. I am commenting on how so many agnostics and atheists in the west would join a eastern religion that deals with reincarnation like Budhism. That was the suprise.

Oh I see. actually I was one of the Buddhist answers and I did think of myself as a Buddhist during my agnostic years. Buddhism is ideal for an agnostic.

It really is not so strange, at least not for my age. Zen had become very popular in the 1950s.

 

[Pygoscelis]

It is really only the monotheistic religions that I harbour distrust and alarm for. When people start saying their God is the only God and their way is the only way, is when I get concerned.

Many spiritual beliefs don't roll in that direction, so I find them harmless. And some of them are really quite fascinating.

Toaism, budhism are both very interesting and I'd likely pick one of those two. Many native north american beliefs are also very interesting. Lots of their religions (and there are many) are very connected and respectful towards nature, not putting themselves above it or saying it exists to serve them, but placing it on an equal footing to themselves, saying they are a part of it. Quite refreshing.

 

[snakelegs]

It is really only the monotheistic religions that I harbour distrust and alarm for. When people start saying their God is the only God and their way is the only way, is when I get concerned.

when people say their god is the only god and their way is the only way, they become a potential threat - not only to those who don't share that belief, but also to those who also claim exlusive rights.

 

[barney]

Eschew ill-fitting, off-the-rack hand-me-downs.
Go for it!

Yup. All Monothistic organised religions are soooooo last millenium.

 

[جوري]

I am not sure what is the presupposed upshot of this creative ambiguation -- seems like a credulous and shallow presentation of one simply bringing every doctrine down to the lowest common denominator, and painting the other side with a broad brush... At the end appearing very much a zealot only from the opposite end of the spectrum.