Why are Islams freedom fighters firing at there brothers and sisters!?!

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who said so? among the 1 billion plus of muslim in the world, most r just peace loving people. Who r contented with their lives & never bothered to cause mischiefs onto others. But, as in any society, there will always be a handfull of minority who will go to the extreme. In this case, the muslims r no different. so, how can u pass remarks on the action of a handful minority? that is very prejudice in nature!
Let's just say it's just 1% that do evil. What's 1% of a billion? That's not a small problem. That wasn't what I asked anyway. Since they are doing something against Islam are they muslim or not?
 
This should not even be an argument. According to UN Security Council Resolution 1559, it is the responsibility of the Lebanese government to disarm Hezbollah and to assert Lebanese sovereignty in southern Lebanon. Israel a member of the UN is being effected by the fact that Lebonon is ignorant enough to not follow UN resolutions.

Israel a member of the UN is enforcing a UN resolution.

Hezbollah on the other hand could care less about the UN.

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Dont even mention UN and Israel in one breath
how come they chose which UN resolutions to support? How come they dont support UN resolutions that has taken a stance for ppl other than Israel? Dont even talk about UN and Israel. Israel dosent care about the UN...neither does the US for that matter.

Oh yeah...since ue a jew....what do u think about the establishment of Israel b4 the coming of ure mesiah?
 
Let's just say it's just 1% that do evil. What's 1% of a billion? That's not a small problem. That wasn't what I asked anyway. Since they are doing something against Islam are they muslim or not?

Yes they are still muslim. If they does something against islam and it had an islamic court of law enforcing sharia then they should be judged and punish accordingly.
 
Hezbollah has military assets in the civilian population. Those assets are legitimate targets. If civilians get killed their blood is on Hezbollah's hand. If Hezbollah is trying to hit military targets then they are legitimate targets also

So i take it i wont see u saying anything or using the Haifa attacks in ure arguments anymore? since uve just agreed with the bombing of haifa?
 
So are u saying that only muslims blow up buses? and commit murders etc? check ure country and see who the most amount of murders are commited by whom?

What about the Irish? what about the other terrorist act around hte world that are not commited by muslims? what about david koresh and Waco texas? who were the terrorist/ killers- not the federal officials?

ALso....do u know all the muslims? to say that they donnot condemn terroist acts? or do u look at the reaction of the muslims on CNN when ever soemthing happens.... Do u not know they can be palying a tape from file over and over to get across the message that they want? Have u not heard of hollywood and actors and doctoring of tapes?
Offcourse u would think this is crap..after all u think u know it all
No it's not only muslims but the majority are. When was the last time the IRA committed a terrorist attack? The Waco incident wasn't a terrorist act. Do I know all terrorists? No. Do I know what people write here? Yes. People were acting like Zaqwari and Abdul Khalim Saidullayev were the second coming of Mohammed. As for doctored tapes are you saying Al-Jazerra play doctored tapes now? Every beheading was played on Al-Jazeera. They show people lining up to become suicide bombers on Iranian tv. But oh I forgot the zionist own those stations too :rollseyes
 
So are u saying that only muslims blow up buses? and commit murders etc? check ure country and see who the most amount of murders are commited by whom?

What about the Irish? what about the other terrorist act around hte world that are not commited by muslims? what about david koresh and Waco texas? who were the terrorist/ killers- not the federal officials?

ALso....do u know all the muslims? to say that they donnot condemn terroist acts? or do u look at the reaction of the muslims on CNN when ever soemthing happens.... Do u not know they can be palying a tape from file over and over to get across the message that they want? Have u not heard of hollywood and actors and doctoring of tapes?
Offcourse u would think this is crap..after all u think u know it all

I forgot to mention the Serbs and the ethnic cleansing of the muslims by the Christians .
 
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Dont even mention UN and Israel in one breath
how come they chose which UN resolutions to support? How come they dont support UN resolutions that has taken a stance for ppl other than Israel? Dont even talk about UN and Israel. Israel dosent care about the UN...neither does the US for that matter.

Oh yeah...since ue a jew....what do u think about the establishment of Israel b4 the coming of ure mesiah?
Have you ever read the resolution against Israel? The Pals haven't lived up to their end either.
 
Yes they are still muslim. If they does something against islam and it had an islamic court of law enforcing sharia then they should be judged and punish accordingly.
Well there's something wrong with your law enforcement because an awful lot of them are running free.
 
So i take it i wont see u saying anything or using the Haifa attacks in ure arguments anymore? since uve just agreed with the bombing of haifa?
No I agreed to hitting military targets there not just lobbing them wherever they feel like it.
 
I forgot to mention the Serbs and the ethnic cleansing of the muslims by the Christians .
Wasn't it Christians that saved them? I could have sworn that it was the US that got rid of the Slobbadan. By the way it was proven there was no ethnic cleansing there.
 
Why are Islams freedom fighters firing at there brothers and sisters!?!

They are killing Arabs in Israel, they are even aiming at Arab towns!

This is what Jonathan Cook had to say:

Crossing red lines

The fact that Hizbullah's rockets are not precision-guided should not lead us to conclude that they are entirely inaccurate or random. It is clear from the main targets Hizbullah is selecting that its priority is to hit sensitive sites: Haifa, the economic hub of the north, its satellite towns, as well as military installations that are dotted across the Galilee.

[...] Even the most problematic Hizbullah strike, one that killed two Muslim children in the Israeli Arab city of Nazareth last week, is not quite as it appears. Although it was of little consolation to the residents here, Hizbullah leader Hassan Nasrallah used a rare televised appearance immediately afterwards to apologise for the deaths.

Not only did his words of regret confound those commentators, including the Israeli prime minister Ehud Olmert, who have claimed that the Shiite militia wants to kill Christians in the Holy Land - Nasrallah, unlike many in our media, knows the city is mainly Muslim - but the apology also confirmed that the strike was intended for a target other than Nazareth.

Local inhabitants did not doubt that. They understand too that Israeli media reports that Hizbullah has repeatedly hit areas near Nazareth's neighbour, the mixed Jewish and Arab city of Upper Nazareth, are glossing over the facts. Close by both Nazareths is a major weapons factory that Hizbullah has clearly identified and is trying to strike. Many of the other sites Hizbullah has been targeting on a regular basis are military. Its chances of damaging these fortified positions are low, but it is striking at them nonetheless. It may be hoping to send a deterrent signal that, if it knows where Israel's military Achilles' heels are to be found, so do its patrons, Syria and Iran.


And also consider this from Haaretz:

Four Katyusha rockets land near Rosh Hanikra overnight

Warning sirens did not activate in Nazareth prior to attack, giving no advanced indication of a coming rocket. MK Talab A-Sana (Ra'am Ta'al) said most of the Arab towns in the area were not equipped with warning sirens or bomb shelters.
 
No it's not only muslims but the majority are. When was the last time the IRA committed a terrorist attack? The Waco incident wasn't a terrorist act. Do I know all terrorists? No. Do I know what people write here? Yes. People were acting like Zaqwari and Abdul Khalim Saidullayev were the second coming of Mohammed.

Now uve limited ure statement to ppl on this forum..when b4 u were caliming that an awful lot of muslims out there support the guy. Make up ure mind.



Every beheading was played on Al-Jazeera.

As for doctored tapes are you saying Al-Jazerra play doctored tapes now?
I dunno..maybe...but how do i know that cnn arent playing doctored tapes and claim they got it from aljeezera? How come u pick and choose to believe what suits u from easten news agencies?

They show people lining up to become suicide bombers on Iranian tv. But oh I forgot the zionist own those stations too

U understand arabic to know what they're reporting?
and i cant defend/ answer for those ppl who are lining up to be suicide bombers.. But then again...u have ure ideas of all muslims.

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Wasn't it Christians that saved them? I could have sworn that it was the US that got rid of the Slobbadan. By the way it was proven there was no ethnic cleansing there.

wasnt it the UN? are onyl christians in the UN.... and btw who allowed it to happen in the first place? wasnt it Un forces from a UN nation standing by and watching the atrocities happen?
BTW...i never gave the impression that All christians are bad liek the way u like to portray muslims.

AAnd where u got that crap from that there was no ethnic cleansing?
lol after a statement like that..u expect anyone to take u seriously?
 
This I time I did get the right Haaretz link. :)
They've changed the article.

A google search for
haaretz "Warning sirens did not activate"

confirms that they printed it in article 740309

here is the cached copy: google cached

The current version is totally different to the original!
 
I am trying to make a distinction between what Israel and Hezbollah want to do as opposed to what they actually do. Hezbollah is not, after all, very competent at what it does. It lacks the technology or the numbers. But what counts is not so much what they do as what they are trying to do.

Let me join you in condemning all intentional killings.
Agreed. I would just want to go a little bit further. I would like to CONDEMN this war.

I expect them not to fight.
The way i see it, Hezbollah r desperate. They hv totally miscalculated on the Israel's reaction to their earlier action. They hv 2 show that they atleast hv the means 2 fight back.

I am not convinced most of their victims are children, much less that they are mainly women, the old and children. What is your evidence of that?
The same can be said 2 u. What is ur proof that the number of those killed r mainly Hezbollah? whatever it is, the fact remains that old folks, woman & children r constantly being killed.

Of course some ends justify some means. Whether this one does or not I do not know. I know that Hezbollah attacked Israel and Lebanon is not doing enough to stop them.
Than u r no better than Hezbollah.....:rollseyes

I am surprised that you think that reflects well on Hwzbollah. Surely if they are firing crude missiles into Israel hoping to kill civilians, they are doing a bad thing?
Why is it surprising? I'll tell u three why it reflects well on Hezbollah (even though they r doing a bad thing).
1. They hv been resisting IDF for more than 3 weeks.... Last time when Israel goes to war, it does not even lasted a full one week. they deserved 2 be given some credits for that.
2. They hv been quite successful, even in their limited way in inflicting some damages to IDF.
3. They hv been forcing most Israeli's in the nothern region to taste the life under bunker as kind of some people under occupation. Nobody ever manage to do that b4.

I think that people support Hezbollah anyway.
Again, u r being biased here. As hv been highlighted by Lara b4, most Lebanese dont even support Hezbollah anyway. But the way the IDF is causing miserable grief 2 them, i'm not surprised if they end up supporting Hezbollah anyway..... Do they've got some other alternative other than that? No, they dont! Not by IDF and not by the international community.

What Hezbollah did was wrong!
What Israel did, does not make it right!
These whole war is wrong...........
 
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Wasn't it Christians that saved them? I could have sworn that it was the US that got rid of the Slobbadan. By the way it was proven there was no ethnic cleansing there.

I realize that the line between ethnic cleansing and massacres is sort of grey, but 7,000 Muslims were execute in a 1995 massacre in the city of Srebrenicad. However, there is plenty of evidence that the other factions in the war also committed massacres. There was also evidence of concentration camps. I would say there was definitely the intention to commit ethnic cleansing, but it wasn't anything close to the ethnic cleansing in Germany during WWII, the genocide in Rwanda, or what is happening in Darfur.
 
I realize that the line between ethnic cleansing and massacres is sort of grey, but 7,000 Muslims were execute in a 1995 massacre in the city of Srebrenicad. However, there is plenty of evidence that the other factions in the war also committed massacres. There was also evidence of concentration camps. I would say there was definitely the intention to commit ethnic cleansing, but it wasn't anything close to the ethnic cleansing in Germany during WWII, the genocide in Rwanda, or what is happening in Darfur.
I'll give you that. When I saw ethnic cleanse I was thinking Genocide which isn't the same thing.
 
Forget it. This debate is pointless.

Condemning the 'freedom fighters' isn't going to stop them in their tracks.

Condoning the 'freedom fighters' isn't going to make them victorious.

Give it up people, you won't be able to solve the worlds problems online.

Just let it be. Accept this idiotic war as a fact of life and move on.

Wa'salaam.
 
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Wasn't it Christians that saved them? I could have sworn that it was the US that got rid of the Slobbadan. By the way it was proven there was no ethnic cleansing there.

Yes, for political reasons. The Clinton administration largely ignored the systematic genocide until '95 where he used the crisis as a means to influence his re-election. For four idle years he ignored the genocide and the majority of the American public agreed with him. As Thomas Friedman said before the intervention: I don't give two cents about Bosnia ... not two cents.

I am not going to dwelve in to UN "Protection Force"'s direct and indirect involvement of the massacres. That is for a seperate topic.

The genocide has been termed as ethnic cleansing by virtually the entire world.
 
Indeed..they should all stop the killing...

only diffrence is hezbollah have less control on there targets and israel knows exactly what its doing and is doing much worse damage and carnage of human life...

indeed hezbollah should stop but by killing almost ten times the amount of civilians in lebbanon as in israel , israel does not help the situation...
 

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