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Re: Why do Christians eat pork?

its all good and well talking about why christians eat pork but there are no current christians to have this debate with. probibly because the ones online dont have answers. my point is if jesus was a practicing jew and he lived like a jew then why are the christians of today doing that of which he wouldn't do. surely the best example is that of who you claim to follow.
christians please come forward and put me straight if you truely beleive eating pork is permissable to you but your 'god' did not consume it!
and don't qoute the revised bibles because the essence of what was said in the time of jesus (isa) has been lost due to modernisation.
 
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Peace to all

Im raised in a multiracial, a complex society,muslim,buddhist,christian and hindu were all together share the same place like a school,hospital and other public fecilities exception for religion sites.Pork,pig,hog,wildboar etc are common words in my place.When i was a child im remember a story told by someone(forgot who)about a pig disgusting shared by many at my place, maybe not as a food but still disgusting.

Someone has asking "why a muslim could eat a chicken but not a pig".The muslim answering "The pig is unclean and dirty".That guy asking again "So the chicken also dirty like a pig".Then the muslim replied,"oh! how do you feel if i tell your face is cute like a chick!" That guys slightly smile,shortly the muslim ask again "if i tell you that your face is cute like a piglet how do you felt?" Then that guy face turn to red and angry.

To me pig is simply dirty in many aspect and appearence.
 
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i understand brother but a pig is still a wonderful creation by Allah and we should respect it like other animals but we should not consume or breed them due to Allah's ruling on such an issue. i beleive they should be let to live in the wild and not be consumed or kept as pets.
 
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its all good and well talking about why christians eat pork but there are no current christians to have this debate with. probibly because the ones online dont have answers. my point is if jesus was a practicing jew and he lived like a jew then why are the christians of today doing that of which he wouldn't do. surely the best example is that of who you claim to follow.
christians please come forward and put me straight if you truely beleive eating pork is permissable to you but your 'god' did not consume it!
and don't qoute the revised bibles because the essence of what was said in the time of jesus (isa) has been lost due to modernisation.

Well I can play a Christian on TV. But we have been over this before. Jesus specifically said it does not matter what you eat, it matters how you behave. How do you know He wouldn't do it?

I believe eating pork is entirely permissible. I do not know whether Jesus actually consumed it but He might have.

You can continue to assert that the Bible has changed, despite the inherent rudeness of that claim, but a Christian will not take that complaint seriously given you have no evidence of it apart from what the Quran says.
 
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You can continue to assert that the Bible has changed, despite the inherent rudeness of that claim, but a Christian will not take that complaint seriously given you have no evidence of it apart from what the Quran says.


So you don't think the Bible has changed? or been tampared with?
 
Re: Why do Christians eat pork?

Well I can play a Christian on TV. But we have been over this before. Jesus specifically said it does not matter what you eat, it matters how you behave. How do you know He wouldn't do it?

I believe eating pork is entirely permissible. I do not know whether Jesus actually consumed it but He might have.

You can continue to assert that the Bible has changed, despite the inherent rudeness of that claim, but a Christian will not take that complaint seriously given you have no evidence of it apart from what the Quran says.
first of all i was calling for a christians to come forward so if your a christian you would know that it has been 'revised' many times and parts have been taken out due to the conflicting or 'unclear' wording. i wasn't trying to insult anyone. look this is a debate not a slanging match so don't try to stur.
 
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What's there to debate? The Bible says Jesus said that things that come into you do not make you unclean.

Finito.
 
Re: Why do Christians eat pork?

What's there to debate? The Bible says Jesus said that things that come into you do not make you unclean.

Finito.
so whats your point pork is permissable for the christians?
 
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first of all i was calling for a christians to come forward so if your a christian you would know that it has been 'revised' many times and parts have been taken out due to the conflicting or 'unclear' wording. i wasn't trying to insult anyone. look this is a debate not a slanging match so don't try to stur.

Actually I suspect no Christian would accept that claim at all. There have been problems with translations. There is dispute over the exact number of Books in the Bible. But no one would accept that it has been "revised" as you mean it.

I am not trying to start a slanging match, but have you read this thread?

Try this one, it is Paul so you will hate it,

Rom.14
[1] Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.
[2] For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.
[3] Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him.
[4] Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.
[5] One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
[6] He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.
[7] For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself.
[8] For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord's.
[9] For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.
[10] But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
[11] For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
[12] So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.
[13] Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way.
[14] I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean.
[15] But if thy brother be grieved with thy meat, now walkest thou not charitably. Destroy not him with thy meat, for whom Christ died.
[16] Let not then your good be evil spoken of:
[17] For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.
[18] For he that in these things serveth Christ is acceptable to God, and approved of men.
[19] Let us therefore follow after the things which make for peace, and things wherewith one may edify another.
[20] For meat destroy not the work of God. All things indeed are pure; but it is evil for that man who eateth with offence.
[21] It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor any thing whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak.
[22] Hast thou faith? have it to thyself before God. Happy is he that condemneth not himself in that thing which he alloweth.
[23] And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.​

And another from Matthew

Matt.15

[15] Then answered Peter and said unto him, Declare unto us this parable.
[16] And Jesus said, Are ye also yet without understanding?
[17] Do not ye yet understand, that whatsoever entereth in at the mouth goeth into the belly, and is cast out into the draught?
[18] But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.
[19] For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:
[20] These are the things which defile a man: but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man.​
 
Re: Why do Christians eat pork?

great quote but this leaves the door open for all types of flesh doesnt it? so a canibal has biblical proof that what he consumes doesn't make him one of the disbelievers?
 
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19For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body." (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods "clean.")

So here we see the 'author' in brackets put that all food was decleared clean ok.
I think paul goes on to say stuff like such.

Anyhow, what difference does it make, I mean, even if everyone stopped eating pork, would that stop them commiting shirk?

I don't know.
 
Re: Why do Christians eat pork?

19For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body." (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods "clean.")

So here we see the 'author' in brackets put that all food was decleared clean ok.
I think paul goes on to say stuff like such.

Anyhow, what difference does it make, I mean, even if everyone stopped eating pork, would that stop them commiting shirk?

I don't know.
yeah but my point is that what we call food others might call something else food so any flesh or any thing that goes into your stomach is clean! well i don't believe this at all! i believe that to repect your body is a way of worship so to put that which is not good for you inside it is a way of disrespect of the blessing that Allah has given you!
yeah and i guess your right about them commiting shirk but the topic is about pork.
 
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Lol, yep the topic is sure piggy.

I dont know, sis, hope you do well anyhow.


Peace
 
Re: Why do Christians eat pork?

Lol, yep the topic is sure piggy.

I dont know, sis, hope you do well anyhow.


Peace
haha you crack me up!:giggling:
what did you mean about doing well? what with the piggy campaign:giggling:
 
Re: Why do Christians eat pork?

i understand brother but a pig is still a wonderful creation by Allah and we should respect it like other animals but we should not consume or breed them due to Allah's ruling on such an issue. i beleive they should be let to live in the wild and not be consumed or kept as pets.
Pigs are one of the smartest domesticated animals. They can be kept in clean surroundings and they will not be dirty. They make excellent pets and can be taught many behaviors.

As for domestic pigs being left in the wild, they turn feral very quickly. They grow huge tusks, which they don't have in captivity, and can be extremely dangerous. You don't want feral pigs living close to villages.
 
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I used to ask my father, who was a Christian minister, that same question. He was never able to give me a reason. He used to say that things were done differently in biblical times and that we should not question the church. I used to reply that, that wasnt logical and that we shouldnt be worshipping the church, we should be worshipping God. Who were we to chose what parts of the bibles teachings we should follow? I never understood that. Christianity has lost its way in my opinion.

Curious
 
Re: Why do Christians eat pork?

Hello Queen Nadia, nice to meet you.

What I along with Hei Gou and others have posted is the correct understanding of Christian beliefs.

As for the question concerning cannibalism:

I had seen that subject raised on this thread, but I didn’t think the poster was intending to be taken seriously.

If you will go back and read the scripture that I posted, you will see that in Peter’s vision there were of all kinds of animals, but no mention of human. So when he was commanded to raise and kill and eat, the scripture was not referring to eating people.

As for any other scripture being read as to permit eating human flesh, that interpretation would be an extreme interpretation of the scripture and it would also ignore all the scripture concerning the treatment of the dead.

Thanks
Nimrod
 
Re: Why do Christians eat pork?

great quote but this leaves the door open for all types of flesh doesnt it? so a canibal has biblical proof that what he consumes doesn't make him one of the disbelievers?

Well I guess it would. I shall not mention transubstiantiation if you do not.

There must be another reason for banning cannibalism although I can't for the life of me think what it is. But merely eating other people would not make a Muslim a non-Muslim would it? It would depend on the context. After all if you're on a plane that crashes in the Andes and you have to eat your fellow Rugby players (a bit tough I'd think but probably lots of good meat on them) you would not cease to be a Muslim any more than you'd cease to be a Christian, would you? Eating people for fun is another matter.

Alferd Packer was an American who crossed the Mountains in winter and got stuck and allegedly ate one of his fellow travellers. He was tried and even convicted of it. After prison he got on with his life. He left money to the University of Colorado (I think). They named a building after him. They have the Alferd Packer Memorial Dinning Hall.
 
Re: Why do Christians eat pork?

I'm intrigued to know, why pork is considered haram.

If someone could enlighten me please?
 
Re: Why do Christians eat pork?

can anyone tell me the origin of a pig according to Islamic history?

i read it somewhere that...Allah s.w.t created pig on the Noah's Ark to clean up all the animals disposal.

The pig created and came out from the elephant buttocks...

Please clarify me on this.
 
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