"Why has Allah forbidden eating Pork?"

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Re: Why do Christians eat pork?

wow i have never heard of such a thing:? ! i should do my research on Noah(AS)
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syilla said:
can anyone tell me the origin of a pig according to Islamic history?

i read it somewhere that...Allah s.w.t created pig on the Noah's Ark to clean up all the animals disposal.

The pig created and came out from the elephant buttocks...

Please clarify me on this.
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Lol did you hear this from reliable sources because it sounds awsome.
 
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IsaAbdullah said:
19For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body." (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods "clean.")

So here we see the 'author' in brackets put that all food was decleared clean ok.
I think paul goes on to say stuff like such.

Anyhow, what difference does it make, I mean, even if everyone stopped eating pork, would that stop them commiting shirk?

I don't know.
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Salam Alaikum:

Actually, as was explained a few times in the beginning of this thread, Jesus, pbuh, was speaking with the Pharisees and was not discussing food, but eating with unclean hands. This quote from Jesus refers to words and the hypocrisy of the pharisees, not food. If you go to the first few pages of this thread you will find a full explanation of these verses.

Also, this was one law Paul didn't change. He never said unclean meat was now clean, just as Jesus, pbuh, did not. When Paul speaks of food, he is referring to eating the food that had first been offered to idols for a blessing. He tells them the idols can do nothing to the meat and they are permitted to eat it. He is speaking to new converts who were concerned about eating such food.

Wa'alaikum salam,
Hana
 
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thanks for that sis you have cleared a few things up for me!
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Pukandi baba said:
Anyone?? :)
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just like any sin it get written down by the angels and if you don't repent before you die you get punished for it. im not sure of the specific punishment but if any muslim finds out before i do please come forward!
 
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queen_nadia said:
just like any sin it get written down by the angels and if you don't repent before you die you get punished for it. im not sure of the specific punishment but if any muslim finds out before i do please come forward!
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Well that's not informative, i meant as in what are the condtions i.e how is it stated that eating swine/pork is forbidden?

Just so i can understand Islam a little better. Every time i asked a muslim friend, they didn't know to why it was forbidden.
 
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Pukandi baba said:
Well that's not informative, i meant as in what are the condtions i.e how is it stated that eating swine/pork is forbidden?

Just so i can understand Islam a little better. Every time i asked a muslim friend, they didn't know to why it was forbidden.
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well not all things in islam have a clear reason for why it is forbidden it just boils down to how much you believe the quran is the word of god.
although its not the same thing but many years ago before they developed the technology and machines that can show you how a baby developes within its mothers womb, the quran gives an indepth description on the many stages. people in those times would have felt that this was total nonesense but now scientifically we can prove that the quran was right hundreds of years ago. the same can be put for pork although its not publisised yet. in islam any thing that harms you or is not good for you... you should stay away from. thus one reason for why it is fobiden as is smoking etc.
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Pukandi Baba, I am not trying to answer for Islam.

The reason pork is prohibited in the Old Testament, it seems, was simply to teach an important lesson to the Hebrew; There is a difference between good and bad, or, clean and un-clean.

A number of animals were declared “un-clean” under the law. Pigs are only one of more than a few.

God’s intention seemed to be to show, the Hebrew, that there need not be any other reason, than God said that the animals were un-clean, in-order for them to be un-clean.

It is one of those things like you might tell your child “It is because I said so”.

Folks, over the years, have tried to present rational arguments for why one animal was declared “clean” and another (such as the catfish) was declared “un-clean”.
Those arguments are based on speculation.

As an aside that I would find interesting:

What animals are considered “Un-Clean” according to Islam?

Thanks
Nimrod
 
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reptiles, carnivors and scavengers.....for e.g. snakes, lions and rats.......i could go on and on but i think you get it!
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Pukandi baba said:
Well that's not informative, i meant as in what are the condtions i.e how is it stated that eating swine/pork is forbidden?

Just so i can understand Islam a little better. Every time i asked a muslim friend, they didn't know to why it was forbidden.
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Well I don't think for everything forbiden the reason is given.

The wisdom behind it may not be given and may not be apparent, but keep asking maybe one will know.

The reason muslims might not know is because to them, if it says dont eat pork, that is a command they follow, they dont need the wisdom behind it since they already believe in it, but if they take time to learn the wisdom behind it then good on them.
 
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Hana_Aku said:
Mark 7:15-23, as in Matthew 15:11, Jesus was not referring to prohibited meat either. If you look at the verse in full context starting with verse 1 of both Mark and Matthew, you will see the Pharasees are asking: "Why do your disciples break away from the tradition of the elders? They eat without washing their hands." The response you quoted is not to prohibited meat at all....it's a response to washing unclean hands. Jesus, pbuh, then responds to their hypocracy saying: "Why do you break away from the commandments of God for the sake of your tradition...you have made God's word ineffective by means of your tradition." He was telling them that not observing ritualistic Jewish traditions was not breaking God's Law. If you continue to read on you realize Jesus, pbuh, is saying that if a piece of dirt or dust is accidently eaten because of unclean hands it's not an issue. What matters are the words that come out of your mouth as it is an indication of what is in your heart.

Peace,
Hana
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I don't know if this is what your talking about but, I said in my previous post:

19For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body." (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods "clean.")

So here we see the 'author' in brackets put that all food was decleared clean ok.

So unless you can show that this part in the brackets is not part of the bible, it isnt in the KJV but is in the RVS and NIV which does kinda shake its reliability, but the RVS does claim that the KJV was based on late manuscripts and so on and that the RVS is more accurate.

To christians, who's more likely to know more about what Jesus said, a person in our times or someone who was meanto be inspired and wrote about Jesus and they believe it to be the word of G-d.

I don't know again I was gonna go see what paul says about following the Law but this topic is hardly stimulating lol :X

Peace
 
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IsaAbdullah said:
Well I don't think for everything forbiden the reason is given.

The wisdom behind it may not be given and may not be apparent, but keep asking maybe one will know.

The reason muslims might not know is because to them, if it says dont eat pork, that is a command they follow, they dont need the wisdom behind it since they already believe in it, but if they take time to learn the wisdom behind it then good on them.
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my brother it is not 'learn' it is to 'assume' the wisdom. if our prphet did not give us a explanation for why something is forbiden then we can only assume or comeup with reasons for why they are forbidden. Allah (SWT) has wisdom futher than what we can even comprihend. so it is assumptions not learning the hiqmah behind things!
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queen_nadia said:
my brother it is not 'learn' it is to 'assume' the wisdom. if our prphet did not give us a explanation for why something is forbiden then we can only assume or comeup with reasons for why they are forbidden. Allah (SWT) has wisdom futher than what we can even comprihend. so it is assumptions not learning the hiqmah behind things!
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Sorry I didnt say it clearly, my bad.

I mean to learn the wisdom, behind something being prophibited when the wisdom is given to us.

Then as you have rightly said if the wisdom is not given to us we can only try to assume but never fully know.

Salam Aleykum, sorry again for not being clear.
 
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IsaAbdullah said:
Sorry I didnt say it clearly, my bad.

I mean to learn the wisdom, behind something being prophibited when the wisdom is given to us.

Then as you have rightly said if the wisdom is not given to us we can only try to assume but never fully know.

Salam Aleykum, sorry again for not being clear.
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naah thats ok bro! i tend to do that throughout this forum. its easier to say it then type it in my opinion!:sister:
 
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queen_nadia said:
naah thats ok bro! i tend to do that throughout this forum. its easier to say it then type it in my opinion!:sister:
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Lol easier to say it?

Maybe for some lol

anyhow, i ate some halal gelatine, tasted just as good, so yall wont miss out if u dont eat pig.
 
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IsaAbdullah said:
I don't know if this is what your talking about but, I said in my previous post:

19For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body." (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods "clean.")

So here we see the 'author' in brackets put that all food was decleared clean ok.

So unless you can show that this part in the brackets is not part of the bible, it isnt in the KJV but is in the RVS and NIV which does kinda shake its reliability, but the RVS does claim that the KJV was based on late manuscripts and so on and that the RVS is more accurate.

To christians, who's more likely to know more about what Jesus said, a person in our times or someone who was meanto be inspired and wrote about Jesus and they believe it to be the word of G-d.

I don't know again I was gonna go see what paul says about following the Law but this topic is hardly stimulating lol :X

Peace
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Salam Alaikum:

The brackets are not part of original manuscript. Brackets are used when the writer wants to try to clarify something or give opinion to the text. (just like marginal notes from manuscripts that often found their way into the main body of the biblical text) Regardless of the intent of the author, Jesus, pbuh, was speaking about the pharisees being hypocritical in their speech allowing tradition to take a higher stand than the laws of God.

Wa'alaikum salam,
Hana
 
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