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Re: Why do Christians eat pork?

Joe98 said:
It does not need to be justified.

Its about food, not religion.

Food is related to religion. That is the case for the majority of religions, including Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, Sikhism, Buddism and more.

So, of course it needs to be justified, especially if they worship someone who was a Jew.
 
Re: Why do Christians eat pork?

I think its cos its cheaper and they may be trying to save some money

Eventhough according to old scripture its forbidden
 
Re: Why do Christians eat pork?

akulion said:
I think its cos its cheaper and they may be trying to save some money

Eventhough according to old scripture its forbidden

HAHAHAHAHA!!! That would most likely be the case for Jews.
 
Re: Why do Christians eat pork?

Salam alaikum:

Ok, I've just read a whole pile of stuff about this. And, No, pork is still not permitted, and this is in both the Old and New Testaments.

A portion here: the early New Testament church continued the Old Testament practice of observing the dietary laws of Leviticus 11 and Deuteronomy 14. The words of Jesus Christ and Peter as well as the writings of Paul all support this conclusion.

Also, for our non-religious friend, here is some information for you regarding Pork:

It is well known that the flesh of animals dubbed "unclean" for human consumption pose unique risks to humans who eat them. The Webster's Dictionary definition of "trichinosis" states:

"a trichinas disease marked by fever, diarrhea, muscular pains, etc. and usually acquired by eating undercooked, infested pork." (1)

The Encyclopedia Americana adds this warning:

"Hogs may be infested by parasitic roundworms called ...(trichina), which are lodged in muscle tissue. The trichina can be transferred to humans if raw or inadequately cooked pork is ingested, and serious, sometimes fatal, illness may result... There is more likelihood of pork being contaminated by trichina in the United States than in Europe. In Europe, hog carcasses are inspected microscopically for evidence...of trichina." (2) (Emphasis added.)
The Americana also states the following about trichinosis:

"The disease is worldwide, and about 15% of the United States population is said to be infested, although the majority of cases remain asymptomatic. The degree of severity of the infection is believed to depend on the number of trichinae contained in the ingested pork...
The mortality of symptomatic cases runs from 5 to 40% ...Once the trichinae are encysted in muscle tissue they cannot be dislodged...Death is usually from cardiac or respiratory failure in the acute phase." (3) (Emphasis added.)

It's a much longer article, but this is enough. lool

Wasalam and peace,
Hana
 
Re: Why do Christians eat pork?

I was kidding about the Jews.

Anyways,

Doesnt it seem strange that Christians are eating haram ESPECIALLY when its not allowed in Christianity to begin with? Are they doomed?
 
Re: Why do Christians eat pork?

Well pork is just one thing

then there is rampantly "accepted" fornication

not to mention alcohol and other things too which go against commandments
 
Re: Why do Christians eat pork?

Well pork is just one thing

then there is rampantly "accepted" fornication

not to mention alcohol and other things too which go against commandments

Maybe they are just disobeying them, some of our brother's and sisters that are rather detached from ISLAM do commit those also. This type of behaviour only lead to moral decay, not to mention futher away from ISLAM (straying). So make Duah, and that's why I stress the importance of education on ISLAM, and not the usual type don't do this and do that but education in the Quran and the sunnah. Let the Quran speak for them, and it will have a better impact than anyones simple word.
 
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Re: Why do Christians eat pork?

primitivefuture said:
Doesnt it seem strange that Christians are eating haram ESPECIALLY when its not allowed in Christianity to begin with? Are they doomed?


What could be strange about it?????

Why would they be doomed? Its not central to their religion.

There is a phrase in Christianity: "you only have to believe in the death and resurrection of Christ to be saved".

Pork is not central to their religion.
 
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:) :)
Salam alaikum:

Ok, I've just read a whole pile of stuff about this. And, No, pork is still not permitted, and this is in both the Old and New Testaments.

A portion here: the early New Testament church continued the Old Testament practice of observing the dietary laws of Leviticus 11 and Deuteronomy 14. The words of Jesus Christ and Peter as well as the writings of Paul all support this conclusion.

As you had mentioned earlier, Christians believe that the laws of the Old Testament are no longer applicable due to the crucifixion of Jesus and the new laws set forth. The quote above appears to be the a view of the early Christian church. This is no longer a generally accepted belief. I do not know of any words from Jesus Christ which would condemn eating pork. Do you?
Also, for our non-religious friend, here is some information for you regarding Pork:

It is well known that the flesh of animals dubbed "unclean" for human consumption pose unique risks to humans who eat them. The Webster's Dictionary definition of "trichinosis" states:

"a trichinas disease marked by fever, diarrhea, muscular pains, etc. and usually acquired by eating undercooked, infested pork." (1)

The Encyclopedia Americana adds this warning:

"Hogs may be infested by parasitic roundworms called ...(trichina), which are lodged in muscle tissue. The trichina can be transferred to humans if raw or inadequately cooked pork is ingested, and serious, sometimes fatal, illness may result... There is more likelihood of pork being contaminated by trichina in the United States than in Europe. In Europe, hog carcasses are inspected microscopically for evidence...of trichina." (2) (Emphasis added.)
The Americana also states the following about trichinosis:

"The disease is worldwide, and about 15% of the United States population is said to be infested, although the majority of cases remain asymptomatic. The degree of severity of the infection is believed to depend on the number of trichinae contained in the ingested pork...
The mortality of symptomatic cases runs from 5 to 40% ...Once the trichinae are encysted in muscle tissue they cannot be dislodged...Death is usually from cardiac or respiratory failure in the acute phase." (3) (Emphasis added.)

It's a much longer article, but this is enough. lool

Raw beef, poultry and seafood also have parasites and bacteria.

Wasalam and peace,
Hana
:) :) :)
 
Re: Why do Christians eat pork?

Joe98 said:
What could be strange about it?????

Why would they be doomed? Its not central to their religion.

There is a phrase in Christianity: "you only have to believe in the death and resurrection of Christ to be saved".

Pork is not central to their religion.

If I have interpreted my information correctly, eating pork would be a sin.
 
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What could be strange about it?????

Why would they be doomed? Its not central to their religion.

There is a phrase in Christianity: "you only have to believe in the death and resurrection of Christ to be saved".

Pork is not central to their religion.

Joe:

Did any bible you've ever seen come with a list where you just check off what you choose to follow? Just because someone believes Jesus, pbuh, died and was resurrected, doesn't mean they will be saved at all. The commandments of God were never abolished, the laws of God were never abolished.....you don't pick and choose them as they suit you. (Well, not you, as you don't believe anyway.) It is absolutely clear that one of the laws of God is that you don't eat pork. Simple. Christians choose not to abide by that....so be it. They can answer for it....it's not my call. But, don't say it's not part of their faith when it clearly is.

Hana
 
Re: Why do Christians eat pork?

i guess it becoz it taste good...(they say it taste like chicken is it true?--then y not just eat chicken)

and maybe they cannot resist eating it...
 
Re: Why do Christians eat pork?

Hana_Aku said:
Did any bible you've ever seen come with a list where you just check off what you choose to follow?


Of course not. I am trying to help you understand Christians. This is how they think.

This is why they don’t get violent if Muslims abuse the Bible. This is why Christians are amazed that Muslims get violent if a Koran is damaged.



Hana_Aku said:
Just because someone believes Jesus, pbuh, died and was resurrected, doesn't mean they will be saved at all.

Well, I am trying to help you understand Christians. And this is what they believe. Just because you don’t believe it does not mean they don’t believe it.



Hana_Aku said:
They can answer for it.......

They believe they will not be punished for it because it is not the core of their faith.

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Re: Why do Christians eat pork?

If I have interpreted my information correctly, eating pork would be a sin.

You have misinterpreted the information. Eating pork is not a sin for the vast majority of Christians.

You can argue that eating pork SHOULD be considered a sin in Christianity. The fact remains that it is not a sin in Christianity. Just remember that Christians sometimes try to argue that hijab and other rules of Islam are not supported by the Islamic texts and should not be practised today.

It's best to let each religion decipher their own religious texts and make their own rules.
 
Re: Why do Christians eat pork?

searchingsoul said:
You have misinterpreted the information. Eating pork is not a sin for the vast majority of Christians.

You can argue that eating pork SHOULD be considered a sin in Christianity. The fact remains that it is not a sin in Christianity. Just remember that Christians sometimes try to argue that hijab and other rules of Islam are not supported by the Islamic texts and should not be practised today.

Since Christianity is comprised of both the Old Testament and the New Testament, it only makes sense that Christians follow doctrines of the Old testament in addition to the Ten Commandments. From what I know know, pork is prohibited in the OT, which is why Jews STILL dont eat pork. I dont understand why Christians arent following Christianity accordingly. After all, Jesus never ate pork.
 
Re: Why do Christians eat pork?

primitivefuture said:
I dont understand why Christians arent following Christianity accordingly.


Because it is a unimportant issue and they will not be punished


After all, Jesus never ate pork.

Nor did he eat kangaroo.

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Re: Why do Christians eat pork?

Since Christianity is comprised of both the Old Testament and the New Testament, it only makes sense that Christians follow doctrines of the Old testament in addition to the Ten Commandments. From what I know know, pork is prohibited in the OT, which is why Jews STILL dont eat pork. I dont understand why Christians arent following Christianity accordingly. After all, Jesus never ate pork.

The Jews do not eat pork because the New Testament is not part of their religion. They do not consider Jesus to be their savior.

You are correct, Christians recognize both the old and new testaments. Let me say this one more time.....Christians believe that the laws in the old testament no longer apply since Christ was crucified.

It is not up to a Muslim to judge Christianity and decide what Christians should believe. LOL ;D Think about it. ;D
 
Re: Why do Christians eat pork?

Peace Searching:

As you had mentioned earlier, Christians believe that the laws of the Old Testament are no longer applicable due to the crucifixion of Jesus and the new laws set forth. The quote above appears to be the a view of the early Christian church. This is no longer a generally accepted belief. I do not know of any words from Jesus Christ which would condemn eating pork. Do you?

Ok, this is long, but it gives you a detailed response:

Jesus and the "Law of Moses"

At Mt. Sinai, God gave Moses not only the Ten Commandments but also many divine instructions about personal behavior, methods of worship and lifestyle choices. These divine instructions came to be known as the "law of Moses" even though they were actually "the law of God given to Moses." When Jesus Christ lived his physical life, many often forget he was reared as a devout Jew. After Jesus' birth, Joseph and Mary observed the seven-day purification period for women, and also had Jesus circumcised on the eighth day (Luke 2:21-23), according to the instructions of the law of Moses n Leviticus 12:1-3. These aspects of the Law of Moses are found literally adjacent to the chapter on dietary laws (Leviticus 11). Since Joseph and Mary scrupulously observed Leviticus 12 in rearing Jesus, it follows that they scrupulously observed Leviticus 11 in their choice of meats which were fed to Jesus and the rest of their children. The observant nature of Jesus' family is further confirmed in Luke 2:39:

"And when they [Joseph and Mary] had performed all things according to the law of the Lord, they returned to Galilee."
Notice that Luke does not call these Old Testament requirements the "law of Moses," but refers to them as the "law of the Lord."-a subtle, but important indicator of the early Christian church's views about Old Testament laws. Luke 2:41 adds that Joseph and Mary kept the Feast of Passover "every year" at Jerusalem. It is not clear whether they brought their children with them every year, but verse 42 states that they brought Jesus with them to Jerusalem for the Passover Feast when Jesus was twelve years old.

During his adult years, the scriptures portray Jesus as being loyal to the "observant" traditions of his parents. We know that Jesus was careful to observe the Passover and Days of Unleavened Bread (Matthew 26:17-19), and that he participated in the "Last Great Day" of the Feast of Tabernacles (John 7:37). In Matthew 5:17-18, Jesus openly declared his allegiance to the Old Testament Laws of God (i.e. "law of Moses"). He emphatically stated:

"think not that I am come to destroy the law or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill... Till heaven and earth pass, one jot [a dot of the I] or one tittle [a cross of the T] shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."

Whew! Jesus' affirmation that his coming will abolish "nothing" from the Old Testament laws of God ought to give all modern Christians pause about assuming Jesus made any major changes in the observance of the dietary laws. Two truisms of biblical study are as follows: (A) The words of God (in the Old Testament) and Jesus Christ (in the New Testament) carry more scriptural authority than the words of their human followers, and (B) one must interpret vague scriptures in light of the meaning of clear scriptures, not vice versa. Applying both these truisms, any vague passages in New Testament books must be interpreted in a manner consistent with the clear declaration of Jesus Christ in Matthew 5:17. Given the vehemence of Jesus' support for God's Old Testament laws in Matthew 5:17-18, we must insist on finding very explicit evidence in the New Testament that something was "done away" before we abandon the practice. This is particularly true in the case of Paul's writings as Peter warned that Paul's writings were easy to misunderstand (II Peter 3:16). It is noteworthy that while God canonized many of Paul's writings, Peter's warning about their difficult doctrinal application was also canonized. If Paul's words were easily misunderstood in his own time and in his own culture, how much easier might it be for us to misunderstand Paul's writings when we not only read Paul's words in a different language but are also two millennia removed from his historical context?

Hebrews 13:8 tells us that Jesus Christ is:

"...the same yesterday, today and forever. Be not carried about with divers and strange doctrines."
Here the writer of Hebrews warns against following false doctrines by reminding the reader that Jesus Christ's doctrines not only "did not change" but also "will never change." Does this scripture sound like Jesus Christ was one to radically alter the Old Testament laws of God? Quite the contrary, the scriptural evidence is that Jesus supported and practiced them faithfully during his entire life. (Taken from www.biblestudy.org)

So, it is clear that Jesus, pbuh, did not eat pork and did not change the law that made it permissable to eat pork.

Raw beef, poultry and seafood also have parasites and bacteria.
They CAN contain parasites, yes. Any foods, including fruits and vegetables CAN contain them. But, that's not the point of this thread. The Bible doesn't say you cannot consume beef, fish, chicken, fruits or vegetables. Pigs are unclean animals which is why they are not permitted. They eat their own feces and any other garbage they can find regardless of what it is. This then becomes part of its meat which you in turn ingest.

If you want to eat it, it's up to you. The bible says you can't and quite frankly, for me personally, the thought of ever eating pork again disgusts me. (Yes, I did eat it and liked it at one time.) However, even before reverting I rarely ate it and never bought it because of the thought of what was in it. Now, after learning more, I just can't stomach it.

So, chow down if you like...but it doesn't change the fact it's not permitted. :)

Peace,
Hana
 
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