Why is Iran upsetting God

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yea from a scientist POV it will be a natural event obviously but not from Muslims POV, and Muslims shouldn't think of it as a natural phenomenon
 
HeiGou said:
Well no, you just have to be a scientist or have a scientific outlook.

People do study earthquakes. They do not tend to think they are supernatural.
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correction even scientists hav become muslim afta they hav discovered whats already stated in the quran :p :thankyou:

Well mayb you would change ur mind if you see just how things change in an earthquake. Lets rememba the mosques which survived in the tsuname, the Quran which was not touched in the blazing house fire.

:peace:
 
Abd'Majid said:
correction even scientists hav become muslim afta they hav discovered whats already stated in the quran :p :thankyou:
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Really? Who?

Well mayb you would change ur mind if you see just how things change in an earthquake. Lets rememba the mosques which survived in the tsuname, the Quran which was not touched in the blazing house fire.
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How many mosques were destroyed compared to how many were saved? And do you think there might be a natural reason why well build pukka buildings like Mosques survive while shacks people live in do not?
 
HeiGou said:
Really? Who?



How many mosques were destroyed compared to how many were saved? And do you think there might be a natural reason why well build pukka buildings like Mosques survive while shacks people live in do not?
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didnt u see the surroundings of wat was destroyed? Im sure there were sum better built buildings lets be serious! its a miracle man!! as for the scientists who hav become muslim i'll get bak 2 u as soon as i hav the source, but i hav heard the names of a few that found out about the feotus and moon not having its own light etc to already be mentioned in the quran. Such evidences led them to become muslim Alhamdullilah!
 
Salaam,

All is a trial,to become better muslim.

As the verse has said,we are paid by our own deeds.
Read the Quran and read about the civilization that Allah casued to be destroyed,despite there being a Prophet with them.

Many times when these civilizations were destroyed,no one knew the reason why but Allah explain's it.


So if a muslim suffer then should you lose faith?
If you fall from rich to poor,do you lose your faith?
If you get from being well to being sick,do you lose your faith?
If you lose a loved one to death,do you lose your faith?

Faith is your own,an individual aspect in this life.
 
it's happening everywhere
tsunami,katrina , earthquake in Iran.
and we must not forget that these are one of the signs that Day of Judgement is approaching .

Allah swt knows best.
Peace
 
It was the Jews; they burrowed under-ground and detonated nuclear warheads, thus causing the earthquakes and especially the tsunami. For Katrina, they detonated one in a special "nuclear weather machine" above the stratosphere, thus provoking a violent hurricane! And their media then "spun" the coverage against any implications of their involvement or complicity! :giggling: :hiding: :X :thankyou:
 
root said:
hhhmmmm,

Interesting replies. But then if Islam is the way why is it not the West that he targets? Let's face it Islam don't exactly adore the Western culture and if we look at Islamic morality then surely the west are the worse sinners (according to islam).......

Why does he seem to inflict death to children within cultures that are striving to be as Islamic as thay can yet the West could not care 2 monkeys about it, yet are left to enjoy such fruits?............
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:grumbling

You may see the fruits of sin that the West is enjoying, but it is their choice to do so, but in the end, only their souls suffers. It is not enjoyment. Believe me.
 
(7.182) And (as to) those who reject Our communications, We draw them near (to destruction) by degrees from whence they know not.
 
Abd'Majid said:
Allah only afflicts people with they deserve and what they can bare, if they cant bare it they either die or the affliction is removed
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It was not afflicted by Allah. It was afllicted by the Iranian government.

Their building standards are very poor. More people will die until their building standards are improved. And it can only be done by government legislation.

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vpb said:
it's happening everywhere, tsunami,katrina , earthquake in Iran. and we must not forget that these are one of the signs that Day of Judgement is approaching .
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There are other signs that judgement is approaching;

The Krakatoa explosion of the late 1800's

The Black Plague of 1650

The Japanes tsunami of 1365


Yep! Judgement Day will be here very soon!

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earthquakes and other disasters are just accidents and forces of nature, do you think God sends them? Killing little children and others who don't deserve it? I do not. I do not believe it is a punishment or a test, its just what happens, simple.
If it is a punishment, then gee he must be angry with muslim countries, what with the tsunami and earthquakes in Iran and pakistan and Turkey etc, Katrina was just miniscule compared, so he must just be a little cranky with USA.
Nah, its just where you live. Australia doesnt get too many cyclones- especially in the south, and very few earthquakes, but is it because we are the good guys? Or just because there are no major techtonic clashes and no cyclone conditions in the south?
 
Greetings,
I am curious. If God has killed 70,383 Iranians indescriminatly women children and men in Iran over the last 25 years and seriously mamed thousands more, what is Iran doing that is so bad?
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Why must death be a negative thing??
If children die, they are granted paradise right away since they are sinless
If believers die, they are granted paradise
No matter who dies, we need to take lesson from life and expect death.

Allah gives and Allah takes, we should have no business in asking why or how come. Be ready for it, thats it.

Say: "If the last Home, with Allah, be for you specially, and not for anyone else, then seek ye for death, if ye are sincere." But they will never seek for death, on account of the (sins) which their hands have sent on before them. and Allah is well-acquainted with the wrong-doers.-2:94-95

btw just because good doesnt happen, doesnt mean Allah is upset, rather he loves and continues to put us through trials to expect the unexpected.
'indamu la ta'lamu, Allahu A'lem

peace
 
so the more muslim a country is the more tests it gets? Hardly seems fair to me, Kinda like saying, he more you love me, the more I will hurt you.
 
irsha said:
earthquakes and other disasters are just accidents and forces of nature, do you think God sends them?
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Sure, I understand the tectonic plates theory. I even agree with it. But your statement above implies that you do not believe God is in control of everything in the universe. That is a grave thing to assume.

Why do sufferings happen in this life? There are two answers.

For the believers they are a test of patience and submission to the Will of God.
All hardships in life — over which we have no control — thus become an opportunity for gaining rewards in the hereafter by exercising patience. Islam, as we know very well, means submission to Allah. It means submission to the Command of Allah in areas within our control. It means submission to the Will of Allah in areas beyond our control.

For the sinners they are a punishment. But even this punishment will turn out to be a mercy for those who heed the wake-up call and mend their ways; it will spare them the much greater punishment in the hereafter.
http://www.jamiat.co.za/special/natural_disasters.htm

Thats the gist of it anyway.
Peace
 
Little children dying not a negative thing? Seriously, Islam is such a long way from the rest of us.
IBy the way, I didnt say God is not in control, I just dont believe he causes suffering as a test, things just happen, God helps us deal with them
 
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lol at this entire thread. You think you can really understand why or why not God does something. It's foolish to continue this debate: We know nothing compared to God.

(sorry, i didn't mean to sound like a crazy ayatollah.)
 
lol at this entire thread. You think you can really understand why or why not God does something. It's foolish to continue this debate: We know nothing compared to God.
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I have to fully agree with this! In a universe as incomprehensibly vast as ours is, the selfish theism revealed by humans on earth is an entirely absurd notion, in my opinion. We really do know nothing compared to "god".
 
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