*** Why were some people chosen as Prophets and not you or me? ***

[ALIve]

@Charisma, I answered, I said Allah is most fair, implying that my idea of fairness isn't up to par with Allah's fairness, since he is All-knowing. But see my response below to brother Taha.
[MENTION=22972]taha[/MENTION] - Yes, I agree that prophets have the most difficult tests. But at the same time, these prophets were made infallible by Allah, so that future generations have a solid guide to follow. What did they do receive this blessing of being infallible, and thus a prophet of Allah. You or me could have received the same blessings of being infallible, then gone through difficult tests as well, and ended up with closeness to Allah. So why you and me not chosen? As I said in post #1, the obvious answer is that we may not have the qualities in our heart / soul, but Allah is the one who created our heart/soul? So I don't get why these prophets receive these extra blessings, go through extra hardships, then receive extra reward, whereas the common Joe like you or me don't have that same opportunity? We could work 150% as hard, but we would always fall short of the prophets. This is my main argument
[MENTION=46653]Umi[/MENTION]t - Right, we have free will and we have the option to do good or to sin. We are made to sin. Allah says if we didn't sin, he would wipe those humans away and create a new generation of humans who would sin. So if we are made to sin, why punish us for those sins? I think Allah doesn't punish us for doing the sins, but rather, not repenting, so I am okay with that concept.

But here is the other issue, is that some people (the prophets) were created infallible, so they couldn't sin. Of course, they went through very tough trials and tribulations, but Allah strengthened them through his miracles and blessings. After they die, there reward is highest and incomparable to you or me. Even if we work really hard, you or I could never obtain the Al-Wasillah, correct? You or I can never have that exact same closeness to Allah as any of the prophets would, especially Muhammad pbuh, correct? So how did he get lucky to be the final prophet and not you or me? Allah could have easily created and fashioned me the exact same as Muhammad pbuh, but instead, I would be the one who goes through all those trials and tribulations, and then be the most beloved to Allah. From my POV, it doesn't appear fair, but as everyone keeps saying, Allah knows best. But it really kills my incentive to work really hard when the competition has this unfair advantage. How can I compete in doing good, when the prophets and Sahabah were destined to be #1 anyways? Sure, we can still be among them, but for sure, most of them would have the slight edge over us in Jannah in terms of rank, honor, status, etc.

 

[manofIslam]

@Charisma, I answered, I said Allah is most fair, implying that my idea of fairness isn't up to par with Allah's fairness, since he is All-knowing. But see my response below to brother Taha.
@taha - Yes, I agree that prophets have the most difficult tests. But at the same time, these prophets were made infallible by Allah, so that future generations have a solid guide to follow. What did they do receive this blessing of being infallible, and thus a prophet of Allah. You or me could have received the same blessings of being infallible, then gone through difficult tests as well, and ended up with closeness to Allah. So why you and me not chosen? As I said in post #1, the obvious answer is that we may not have the qualities in our heart / soul, but Allah is the one who created our heart/soul? So I don't get why these prophets receive these extra blessings, go through extra hardships, then receive extra reward, whereas the common Joe like you or me don't have that same opportunity? We could work 150% as hard, but we would always fall short of the prophets. This is my main argument
@Umit - Right, we have free will and we have the option to do good or to sin. We are made to sin. Allah says if we didn't sin, he would wipe those humans away and create a new generation of humans who would sin. So if we are made to sin, why punish us for those sins? I think Allah doesn't punish us for doing the sins, but rather, not repenting, so I am okay with that concept.

But here is the other issue, is that some people (the prophets) were created infallible, so they couldn't sin. Of course, they went through very tough trials and tribulations, but Allah strengthened them through his miracles and blessings. After they die, there reward is highest and incomparable to you or me. Even if we work really hard, you or I could never obtain the Al-Wasillah, correct? You or I can never have that exact same closeness to Allah as any of the prophets would, especially Muhammad pbuh, correct? So how did he get lucky to be the final prophet and not you or me? Allah could have easily created and fashioned me the exact same as Muhammad pbuh, but instead, I would be the one who goes through all those trials and tribulations, and then be the most beloved to Allah. From my POV, it doesn't appear fair, but as everyone keeps saying, Allah knows best. But it really kills my incentive to work really hard when the competition has this unfair advantage. How can I compete in doing good, when the prophets and Sahabah were destined to be #1 anyways? Sure, we can still be among them, but for sure, most of them would have the slight edge over us in Jannah in terms of rank, honor, status, etc.

BRO: We really have to just accept what ALLAH has given us, and be grateful for that!

 

[Ümit]

@Charisma, I answered, I said Allah is most fair, implying that my idea of fairness isn't up to par with Allah's fairness, since he is All-knowing. But see my response below to brother Taha.
@taha - Yes, I agree that prophets have the most difficult tests. But at the same time, these prophets were made infallible by Allah, so that future generations have a solid guide to follow. What did they do receive this blessing of being infallible, and thus a prophet of Allah. You or me could have received the same blessings of being infallible, then gone through difficult tests as well, and ended up with closeness to Allah. So why you and me not chosen? As I said in post #1, the obvious answer is that we may not have the qualities in our heart / soul, but Allah is the one who created our heart/soul? So I don't get why these prophets receive these extra blessings, go through extra hardships, then receive extra reward, whereas the common Joe like you or me don't have that same opportunity? We could work 150% as hard, but we would always fall short of the prophets. This is my main argument
@Umit - Right, we have free will and we have the option to do good or to sin. We are made to sin. Allah says if we didn't sin, he would wipe those humans away and create a new generation of humans who would sin. So if we are made to sin, why punish us for those sins? I think Allah doesn't punish us for doing the sins, but rather, not repenting, so I am okay with that concept.

But here is the other issue, is that some people (the prophets) were created infallible, so they couldn't sin. Of course, they went through very tough trials and tribulations, but Allah strengthened them through his miracles and blessings. After they die, there reward is highest and incomparable to you or me. Even if we work really hard, you or I could never obtain the Al-Wasillah, correct? You or I can never have that exact same closeness to Allah as any of the prophets would, especially Muhammad pbuh, correct? So how did he get lucky to be the final prophet and not you or me? Allah could have easily created and fashioned me the exact same as Muhammad pbuh, but instead, I would be the one who goes through all those trials and tribulations, and then be the most beloved to Allah. From my POV, it doesn't appear fair, but as everyone keeps saying, Allah knows best. But it really kills my incentive to work really hard when the competition has this unfair advantage. How can I compete in doing good, when the prophets and Sahabah were destined to be #1 anyways? Sure, we can still be among them, but for sure, most of them would have the slight edge over us in Jannah in terms of rank, honor, status, etc.

Dude, you said:

Here is another example that describes my problem better; if you can answer this, then my initial question will be answered too: I will go and create a plane, but I know this plane is gonna crash and burn anyways. But when it does crash and burn, it's the planes fault, not the creator or designer. So why should the plane take blame for crashing instead of the creator? Why should human take blame and responsibility for making mistake it was destined and created to make?

I answered that question but you are still whining like a little child about why someone else gets more than you. We have told you over and over again...Allah does what He wills...we should be thankful with what He already gave us so far...we did not deserve anything of it...and yet you are whining about it?

Besides our life did not start here on Earth...who knows what you have done in your existence prior to your birth here on Earth....can you remember anything about that period? I guess not.

About the hadeeth you mentioned. That hadeeth does not mean that we are made to sin, but more about repenting from sinning. It is about Allahs mercy. But you knew that of course.

You want the highest ranks in Jannah? Please continue with this attitude...I am sure you will get there.

 

[Avis]

The obvious answer is that we don't possess the appropriate qualities or characteristics to be a Prophet. But Allah created all human beings, so couldn't Allah have created anyone of us with the qualities and characteristics of a Prophet? From this perspective, it seems unfair to all other human beings that they were created or given lower qualities and characteristics, so there final reward or position in Paradise won't be as great as any of the Prophets for example? The strength is from Allah, right? So how come you or me weren't destined to become a Prophet, then Allah gives us the strength to overcome those hardships? Allah wouldn't burden a soul with more than it can bear, so if Allah fashioned us the right way, we would succeed as prophets too and have the best reward in Jannah, yes?

Why is it unfair that some have lower qualities and characteristics than others? What did we do, as the creation, to deserve anything at all?

 

[ALIve]

I still don't understand. Our purpose in life is to worship Allah and compete in doing good deeds right? The gifts we have received to achieve that goal we did not deserve, they are blessings to achieve that. So some have been given more blessings than others?

Although I know Allah is most fair and just, and that it will all be explained in the afterlife, it doesn't do me much good now as I don't have the peace of mind that our tests and challenges are all equal and that everyone has a fair shot of competing with each other in doing good.

For example, a kid may die before puberty, having little to no tests, and be entered into Paradise, vs someone who lives a long life with many tests but still has to enter through hellfire first?

From my pov, either dying young or being destined to be a prophet would be the luckiest options, since those guarantee the highest level on entry into Paradise. Dying right after puberty would be unfortunate, since not enough time to do much prayer or good to compete for a high level and that's the age most people are likely to sin, right? It's all one big mess in my head. I don't consider myself as being better than anyone with regards to worship, but I'm searching for my own peace of mind when it comes to understanding qadr and predestination. I don't want to miss out on an opportunity for a grander reward, but Im worried that not everyone has the same opportunity? Although being a human is already a big blessing

 

[*charisma*]

I still don't understand. Our purpose in life is to worship Allah and compete in doing good deeds right? The gifts we have received to achieve that goal we did not deserve, they are blessings to achieve that. So some have been given more blessings than others?

Although I know Allah is most fair and just, and that it will all be explained in the afterlife, it doesn't do me much good now as I don't have the peace of mind that our tests and challenges are all equal and that everyone has a fair shot of competing with each other in doing good.

For example, a kid may die before puberty, having little to no tests, and be entered into Paradise, vs someone who lives a long life with many tests but still has to enter through hellfire first?

From my pov, either dying young or being destined to be a prophet would be the luckiest options, since those guarantee the highest level on entry into Paradise. Dying right after puberty would be unfortunate, since not enough time to do much prayer or good to compete for a high level and that's the age most people are likely to sin, right? It's all one big mess in my head. I don't consider myself as being better than anyone with regards to worship, but I'm searching for my own peace of mind when it comes to understanding qadr and predestination. I don't want to miss out on an opportunity for a grander reward, but Im worried that not everyone has the same opportunity? Although being a human is already a big blessing

It's about equity, not equality.
You can't compare yourself fully to someone else not on any level. You're not their judge.

 

[xboxisdead]

Dude, you said:


I answered that question but you are still whining like a little child about why someone else gets more than you. We have told you over and over again...Allah does what He wills...we should be thankful with what He already gave us so far...we did not deserve anything of it...and yet you are whining about it?

Besides our life did not start here on Earth...who knows what you have done in your existence prior to your birth here on Earth....can you remember anything about that period? I guess not.

About the hadeeth you mentioned. That hadeeth does not mean that we are made to sin, but more about repenting from sinning. It is about Allahs mercy. But you knew that of course.

You want the highest ranks in Jannah? Please continue with this attitude...I am sure you will get there.

I like YOU!

If it wasn't for Covid-19 I would have so loved to be your friend in real life - grin -

;D;D I bet we would have joked, laughed, fought, argued just like family brothers hahahah!! ;D;D;D;D;D;D