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women should not lead- they should support the leaders (the men) thats all-
 
I agree with desert winds. (I wud rep u but im outta reps for today)
 
Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allaah has made one of them to excel the other… [al-Nisa’ 4:34]

And stay in your houses and do not display yourselves like that of the times of ignorance… [al-Ahzaab 33:33]

I don't understand the point of this discussion when the Prophet :saws1: clearly said: 'No people who appoint a woman as their leader will ever prosper.' (Reported by al-Bukhaari 13/53).

Imaam al-Muwaffaq Ibn Qudaamah said:

For this reason the Prophet :saws1: and his successors and those who came after them never appointed a woman to be a judge or a governor of a province as far as we know. If it were permissible it should have happened.

Imaam al-Ghazaali said:

The position of leader (imaam) could never be given to a woman even if she possessed all the qualities of perfection and self-reliance. How could a woman take the position of leader when she did not have the right to be a judge or a witness under most of the historical governments?

Imaam al-Baghawi said:

The scholars agreed that women are not fit to be leaders or judges because the leader needs to go out to organize jihaad and take care of the Muslims’ affairs, the judge needs to go out to judge between people but women are ‘awrah and it is not right for them to go out. Because of their weakness women are not able to do many things. Women are imperfect and the positions of leaders and judge are among the most perfect of positions for which only the most perfect of men are qualified.
 
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i cant beleive there are 16 people who voted yes!
see the thing with us women is our emotions rule us- anyone can make us change our minds- a man doesnt have this issue- they stand strong like a brick wall- so lets leave it all in their hands eh?
 
salams...

who is going to fight for women's right if not women.

who is going to fight for all women public transport.
who is going to fight for all women universities.
who is going to fight that every offices should have day care.
who is going to fight for women's right on the husband money after the husband has died.
and who understand women's most... the guys? :hmm:
 
desert winds said:
i cant beleive there are 16 people who voted yes!
see the thing with us women is our emotions rule us- anyone can make us change our minds- a man doesnt have this issue- they stand strong like a brick wall- so lets leave it all in their hands eh?
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I agree with that, it's in their nature not saying all women are like that but most are I think. But you get men occasionly aswell who are soft also and are easily influenced by people.

anyway, what I say or think doesn't matter, I'm no body to speak on this when there's evidence from Qur'an and sunnah. I follow what the prophet pbuh and the scholars said on the matter :p
 
syilla said:
salams...

who is going to fight for women's right if not women.

who is going to fight for all women public transport.
who is going to fight for all women universities.
who is going to fight that every offices should have day care.
who is going to fight for women's right on the husband money after the husband has died.
and who understand women's most... the guys? :hmm:
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I'm not really an expert so I'm probably wrong but doesn't Allah give the women her rights with the shari'ah.

So there's no need for a women to fight for inheritance after her husband's died because Allah has already legislated that she receives a share.
 
squiggle said:
I'm not really an expert so I'm probably wrong but doesn't Allah give the women her rights with the shari'ah.

So there's no need for a women to fight for inheritance after her husband's died because Allah has already legislated that she receives a share.
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if there is a shariah ...huhu.

I've seen alot of cases of this...and it is sad. Sad for the wife...and also for the children.

but then... probably i shouldn't care if everyone of you think that the women's right is already in the good hands... hmm...
 
syilla said:
if there is a shariah ...huhu.

I've seen alot of cases of this...and it is sad. Sad for the wife...and also for the children.

but then... probably i shouldn't care if everyone of you think that the women's right is already in the good hands... hmm...
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Yes I understand what you mean now, there's no implementation of the shari'ah so the women doesn't get given her rights with regards to things like inheritance. I get you. obviously this is not good cos a women is having her rights taken away from her, the rights that were given to her by Allah.
 
^^^aww not to worry... sometimes i just think people not living in the real world...
 
syilla said:
I've seen alot of cases of this...and it is sad. Sad for the wife...and also for the children.
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From my knowledge, the biggest share of inheritance is for the children.
And don't worry, sister. I have seen in many cases, family of the dead husband gave all of their share to the children and the widow of the dead husband.
 
syilla said:
salams...

who is going to fight for women's right if not women.

who is going to fight for all women public transport.
who is going to fight for all women universities.
who is going to fight that every offices should have day care.
who is going to fight for women's right on the husband money after the husband has died.
and who understand women's most... the guys? :hmm:
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Very true, when you alienate women into specific roles out of the fear of intermixing your in a sense encouraging intermixing because you have men doing jobs for women that women could for themselves.
I personally do not believe a women should lead a nation and if their is a sahih hadith on it it should be left alone, however I don't believe that "women leadership" which is pretty general is wrong, there are different types of leadership and it isnt just in the home. Neither do I believe that a women is incapable of leading a nation however I think men and women have different roles in life and that should be respected we are muslims and men and women should not be in constant competition it's not some war of the genders.
salam
 
I will not vote, coz' the question involves many matters and isn't specified well

I think it's good to have women in the parlament as to their opinions might be helpful. They can do alot

But when it involves woman charging a people, then no
 
syilla said:
salams...

who is going to fight for women's right if not women.

who is going to fight for all women public transport.
who is going to fight for all women universities.
who is going to fight that every offices should have day care.
who is going to fight for women's right on the husband money after the husband has died.
and who understand women's most... the guys? :hmm:
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the prophet sallallahi alaihi wasallaam and sahaabi's FAUGHT FOR WOMENS RIGHTS AND SPREAD IT VIA SHARIAH ACROSS THE ISLAMIC WORLD !

and likewise the muslim men who strive to emulate them will!


yes there are corrupted leaders right now but ONLY MUSLIM MEN HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO SUCCESSFULLY LEAD!


inna lillaahi wa inna ilaihi raajiun

may Allah take away feministic qualities from my sisters :(
 
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