Would you like some Mcdonalds ?

[nature]

McDonald's were taken to issue over fries that weren't vegetarian ten years ago:

I had also read of this.

 

[Ramadhan]

All McDonalds in Indonesia are halal, alhamdulillah.
I dont go there though, I find their offerings not tasty, although their rice and fried chickens are allright (yes, McDonalds in Indonesia serve rice and fried chicken, which actually their most popular item).

 

[sabr*]

Re: Fish is Hilal and in some countries the entire menu! Travel a little!

As-Salāmu `Alaykum (السلام عليكم):

Ukhti nature:

the post was not only addressing your question but the conjecture submitted within the thread. Reread entire thread.

 

[S<Chowdhury]

Re: Fish is Hilal and in some countries the entire menu! Travel a little!

Mcdonalds = blehhhhhhhhh its mostly disgusting these days if you know anything bout fast food you gotta hit your local PFC, RFC, Xtreme Fried Chicken Sam's Chicken (Halal branch) , Chicken Cottage......who cares about the pound menu its all about 2 for 2 haha

 

[sabr*]

Cook your own food!

As-Salāmu `Alaykum (السلام عليكم):

If practicing Muslims who follow the Sunnah cook their own food no doubt would be created.

We observe a Hilal diet that includes fish and vegetables.

http://www.islamicboard.com/health-science/134293298-you-vegetarian-there-benefits.html

Pesco-Vegetarianism

According to Dr. Bill Sears, a professor at the University of California at Irvine, vegetarians who consume fish are called "pesco-vegetarians". The word "pesco" is derived from the Latin word for "fish". Pesco-vegetarians are a type of semi-vegetarian who also may consume other forms of seafood, like shrimp and scallops, but no land-animal derived food, like chicken or beef.


Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/3...d-a-vegetarian-if-you-eat-fish/#ixzz18P1ECoAv

Jazakumullahu Khair

 

[sabr*]

Good and healthy food!

As-Salāmu `Alaykum (السلام عليكم):

Halil and healthy food that will make your mouth water.

Getting hungry yet?

Jazakumullahu Khair

 

[Grace Seeker]

Looks interesting, except for the chick peas. However, I don't recognize a lot of it, so I would have to try some before knowing if my mouth would water for it in the future. If you're offering samples, I think I would like to start with the plate in the top right corner. That looks pretty good.

 

[SafaAuditore]

Lol Sabr*, the only thing that looks good there is the hummus XD I'm seriously in love with hummus and it just helps the stereotypes that think ALLLLLLLLL muslims love hummus lol XD But seriously, who's to blame em? It's GOOD!

But back on topic...
I don't even eat fast food. Mcdonalds is wayyy better than Burger king though, and where i live, Mcdonalds chicken is..erm.."halal". If you guys are talking about the way they kill there animals -- well..then nothing in america is halal

I don't eat anything much really...cause i don't wanna be fat. Fast food is nothing but a heart attack in a bag. It's like... "WITH ONLY 5.00 YOU COULD HAVE A HEART ATTACK AND EXTRA WEIGHT IN NO TIME!" Why????

Solution to all this Halal/Haram nonsense:
Stop eating fast food - it's gross, dirty, full of hair, spit, and maybe even other...things...and it'll only get u fat, sick, and ugly.

Make your burgers at home, your fries at home, your parfaits at home, your salads at home, oooor even better! Don't make ANYTHING at home. Go work out or something, the world is turning uber fat =/

 

[sabr*]

Lol Sabr*, the only thing that looks good there is the hummus XD I'm seriously in love with hummus and it just helps the stereotypes that think ALLLLLLLLL muslims love hummus lol XD But seriously, who's to blame em? It's GOOD!

But back on topic...
I don't even eat fast food. Mcdonalds is wayyy better than Burger king though, and where i live, Mcdonalds chicken is..erm.."halal". If you guys are talking about the way they kill there animals -- well..then nothing in america is halal

I don't eat anything much really...cause i don't wanna be fat. Fast food is nothing but a heart attack in a bag. It's like... "WITH ONLY 5.00 YOU COULD HAVE A HEART ATTACK AND EXTRA WEIGHT IN NO TIME!" Why????

Solution to all this Halal/Haram nonsense:
Stop eating fast food - it's gross, dirty, full of hair, spit, and maybe even other...things...and it'll only get u fat, sick, and ugly.

Make your burgers at home, your fries at home, your parfaits at home, your salads at home, oooor even better! Don't make ANYTHING at home. Go work out or something, the world is turning uber fat =/

Uhkti Gothique:

That is the misconception regarding Halil meat in America. The Fatwa that have been created regarding just saying Bismillah over haram meat is not accepted nor recognized beyond the United States, Britian, etc and those who actually have been eating the harm meat anyway. Having a complete understanding on the background which saying Bismillah over food is important. Saying Bismillah over haram (unlawful) food doesn't make it Halil (lawful).

The exceptions: (In case of starvation which it is permitted to even eat pork in that case) Astaghfirullah!

aadil77

There is no difference of opinion, its just a misconception amongst muslims that saying bismillah will make the meat halal.

You can read more about it below:

By Mufti Ebrahim Desai
Posted: 15 Muharram 1422, 9 April 2001


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Q.) Some people in the Arab countries say that as per some hadith whose meaning is something like this "That people asked as to whether we should eat from food offered from people of other religions, as we do not know of if it is Halal or not" upon which the answer from the Holy Prophet was that say Bismillah and eat."
I do not know the exact words nor I know this hadith. Please advice. Wassalam. Hasan - Jeddah.


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A.) The Hadith in the question is incorrectly quoted.

The Hadith in reference is quoted in Bukhari. The Sahaba, Radi-Allahu anhum, enquired from Rasulullah about the meat slaughtered by the A’araab (Muslims living in the outskirts). Since they have recently accepted Islam and the Sahaba, Radi-Allahu anhum, did not witness the slaughtering and the Tasmiyah (reciting of Bismillah) during the slaughter, that created a doubt in them.

Upon that, Rasulullah said, "You say Bismillah and eat the meat." In other words, you do what you are supposed to do, that is, recite Bismillah before eating and do not have a baseless doubt as the animal is slaughtered by Muslims who must have recited Tasmiyah before slaughtering. The order to recite Bismillah and eat was not as a substitute for the Bismillah at the time of slaughtering. (Fathul Bari; Ibn Hajar)

It is not permissible to purchase meat from non-Muslim outlets and simply recite Bismillah and eat it.

And Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

Jazakumullahu Khair

 

[SafaAuditore]

Uhkti Gothique:

That is the misconception regarding Halil meat in America. The Fatwa that have been created regarding just saying Bismillah over haram meat is not accepted nor recognized beyond the United States, Britian, etc and those who actually have been eating the harm meat anyway. Having a complete understanding on the background which saying Bismillah over food is important. Saying Bismillah over haram (unlawful) food doesn't make it Halil (lawful).

The exceptions: (In case of starvation which it is permitted to even eat pork in that case) Astaghfirullah!



Jazakumullahu Khair

So ...we're allowed to eat absolutely NO meat in the USA? lol that's weird, and good at the same time.
I don't really mind cause i don't eat it anyway

 

[sabr*]

The Zabiha process for meat!

As-Salāmu `Alaykum (السلام عليكم):

The Zabiha process ensures that the name of Allah is pronounced at the time of slaughtering, that a quick movement of a sharp blade severs the veins and arteries of the neck, allowing the drainage of blood. The animal must suffer as little pain as possible. The Zabiha process improves the meat’s taste, shelf-life and healthiness.​

Halal or Zabihah?

Halal is an all encompassing Arabic word that literally means permissible. The Holy Quran and Sunnah of the Prophet Muhammad (SAWS) give detailed guidelines on what exactly is considered permissible, and therefore Halal and what is considered forbidden or Haram. ​

Islamic Services of America refers to the Holy Quran and Prophet’s traditions in our philosophy, methods, and standards. ​

The word 'zabihah' is a specific Arabic word that literally means ‘slaughtered’. It is derived from the Arabic word “Thabih” which means slaughter. In some cultures this word is pronounced “zabih”. ​

Hence the term zabihah. In order for a consumable product to be Halal, the Quran and Sunnah give guidance on how to slaughter. Zabihah, however, does not in any way substantially define or encompass what is truly Halal. It is only one specific element that relates to how or if an animal is slaughtered. ​

An example of this is that one can slaughter a pig or a human, but neither is permissible to consume. Similarly ‘zabihah’ makes no reference to the consumption of blood, or meat that is contaminated with impurities, witchcraft or dead carcasses. ​

All of which are prohibited in the Quran and Sunnah. To be recognized as Halal all of the above must not be present in the product or process. ​

Jazakumullahu Khair ​

 

[SafaAuditore]

oohh thanks for clarifying =)

 

[aadil77]

So ...we're allowed to eat absolutely NO meat in the USA? lol that's weird, and good at the same time.
I don't really mind cause i don't eat it anyway

lol does that mean that no one supplies halal meat is the US? of course not, plenty of muslims here are from the states, I'm sure theres loads of halal butchers around where they buy their meat from

 

[Woodrow]

lol does that mean that no one supplies halal meat is the US? of course not, plenty of muslims here are from the states, I'm sure theres loads of halal butchers around where they buy their meat from

Sadly, there are very few Muslim farmers here in the US. I only know of one in the entire Dakotas Montana and Wyoming and he only raises 5 or 6 goats a year. The laws governing meat production for resale are vey complex and it usually invlives the farmer raising it, selling it at auction and the slaughter house that buys it doing the slaughter. Here you may have a person raising the animal in a halal manner and have it sold at a slaughter housethat simply mass slaughters on a prodcution line.

To get genuine halal meat you have to be certain who raised it and who slaughtered it. this will usually be a small loval farmer. Who probably can not get certification to resell meat. So essentially you need to have a Muslim friend who owns a farm and is willing to share in the buying and slaughtering of food animals. I live almost in the center of the Beef producing region of the USA and I do not know of any producers of halal beef. The closest I came was a year ago when a non-Muslim friend raised a cow for me. It turned out to be a very expensive venture. I myself do not have sufficient land to raise even one cow, it takes quite a bit of grazing land for even one cow unless you can afford to feed them supplemental food in the winter months. The problem is the feeds for cattle usually contain waste from the slaughter houses which means the cattle raised on it are raised as partial carnivores and rendered haram even if slaughtered in the Zabiah manner.

 

[Grace Seeker]

Woodrow, I have been to grocers that labelled their meat as halal. I don't mean large chain stores, but small mom and pop establishments in Muslim populated neighborhoods in larger cities, and I assumed operated by people who were themselves Muslims. I don't know their suppliers, but are you suggesting their meat is probably mislabelled?

 

[Woodrow]

Woodrow, I have been to grocers that labelled their meat as halal. I don't mean large chain stores, but small mom and pop establishments in Muslim populated neighborhoods in larger cities, and I assumed operated by people who were themselves Muslims. I don't know their suppliers, but are you suggesting their meat is probably mislabelled?

It would be safe to assume the grocer has contact with small farms. Outside of the beef production states small farms still exist. Until the demand for Halal meat becomes great enough for a large corporate farm to find it feasible, the source for halal beef will be limited to areas where small farms are still practical

Actually the small Mom/Pop stores are probably able to obtain halal meat especially in your part of the country. Up here in the Cattle producing regions which extend down into Nebraska, Iowa and Kansas, cattle production is more like a factory set-up and the local Mom/Pop establishments are virtually non-existent. Everything seems to be geared for raising 10,000 cows at a time and it is cost prohibitive to even try to raise one or 2 for home use. I can't even find one calf to buy although if I could afford to buy 1,000 or more I could find sellers in an instant.

 

[Grace Seeker]

I can't even find one calf to buy although if I could afford to buy 1,000 or more I could find sellers in an instant.

Are you familiar with 4H? These kids, including sometimes those that don't come from farm families, often have the project of raising a single calf to market. Maybe they could give you ideas or connections on how to get a calf. If you can't do it in the Dakotas, I do know people in Illinois (and probably in Nebraska) who could provide you one or two, all you need is a way to provide transport.

Or, using the rule that everyone is connected to everyone by no more than 7 degrees of seperation, we might be able to get you a Dakota calf. A pastor that I served on staff with grew up in the Dakotas and still has family there. Is this something you're seriously interested in?

 

[SafaAuditore]

lol does that mean that no one supplies halal meat is the US? of course not, plenty of muslims here are from the states, I'm sure theres loads of halal butchers around where they buy their meat from

lol bro i live in the middle of Ohio, not New York XD

 

[nature]

Re: Fish is Hilal and in some countries the entire menu! Travel a little!

Ukhti nature: the post was not only addressing your question but the conjecture submitted within the thread. Reread entire thread

I dont need to. & i cant be bothered repeating myself.

 

[Woodrow]

Are you familiar with 4H? These kids, including sometimes those that don't come from farm families, often have the project of raising a single calf to market. Maybe they could give you ideas or connections on how to get a calf. If you can't do it in the Dakotas, I do know people in Illinois (and probably in Nebraska) who could provide you one or two, all you need is a way to provide transport.

Or, using the rule that everyone is connected to everyone by no more than 7 degrees of seperation, we might be able to get you a Dakota calf. A pastor that I served on staff with grew up in the Dakotas and still has family there. Is this something you're seriously interested in?

Gene it is something I will be seriously interested in come spring time. But the location may be different. At the moment a new opportunity has come up and it looks like we will soon be moving again, this time to the North Cheyenne Reservation in Montana. It looks like we are acquiring a rather large farm there. A deal came up we can not turn down. One of our friends is heir to the farm and she and her family do not want to live on the Rez. My wife's family is originally from the Rez and she still has family there, so this is ideal for us.