Cabdullahi
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Some people are either unwilling or unable to learn,
Your welcome. Yes it does get tedious at times. I would say it is a combination of both traits...
Another more comprehensive definition of Theocracy is : A form of government which defers not to civil development of law, but to an interpretation of the will of a God as set out in religious scripture and authorities.
theocracy(the|oc¦racy)
Pronunciation:/θɪˈɒkrəsi/
noun (plural theocracies)
* a system of government in which priests rule in the name of God or a god.
An Islamic state is a state that has adopted Islam, specifically Sharia, as its foundations for political institutions, or laws, exclusively, and has implemented the islamic ruling system khilafah (Arabic خلافة), and is therefore a theocracy.
Certainly we have to agree on common definition otherwise there is no use to have this kind of discussion because everyone would cling to their own takes of the term?
We also don't have priests or any kind of clergy in Islam.
Using your own link I find this statement: An Islamic state is a state that has adopted Islam, specifically Sharia, as its foundations for political institutions, or laws, exclusively, and has implemented the islamic ruling system khilafah (Arabic خلافة), and is therefore a theocracy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theocracy Certainly we have to agree on common definition otherwise there is no use to have this kind of discussion because everyone would cling to their own takes of the term? Exactly the point I made earlier, in that there is no set standard definition. Therefore whether or not Sharia is a form of theocracy depends on which interpretation of the definition you go by.
Again we kind of get into semantics, but muftis and imams can be considered clergy.
By your very broad definition of theocracy, a large number of countries can be viewed as being theocratic, including most of european countries.
Unless you want to change definition of Imams and muftis, as you have done with theocracy.
muftis and imams are not ordained.
muftis and imams are not God's representatives.
For one thing it is not my definition. These are definitions I have found and I have given the source for each of them.
You try and make it sound like I made up my own definition.
Another more comprehensive definition of Theocracy is : A form of government which defers not to civil development of law, but to an interpretation of the will of a God as set out in religious scripture and authorities.
Don't forget that it was one your sources that called Sharia a theocracy, so to insinuate that I am making these things up is a bit disingenuous don't you think?
True, but again you are getting into semantics. While not ordained, muftis and imams do perform similar duties as ordained clergy do in Christian churches.
I was going to thank you, Guestfellow, for making your point in such a civil manner in your original post and not in the rude way that other people feel the need to make theirs, but then you made the comment I quoted above, in your reply to vale, and I found it to be a bit... uncivil.
Not to disagree totally with Microsoft on the definition of Theocracy, but you are limiting the definition a little too much.
Another more comprehensive definition of Theocracy is : A form of government which defers not to civil development of law, but to an interpretation of the will of a God as set out in religious scripture and authorities.
Certainly this describes Sharia?
you did not cite or give any source for that definition, so it is safe to assume that is your own made-up definition of theocracy.
Wikipedia violated its own definition to include Islamic states who implement sharia.
Sorry if I upset you, I will make myself more clear.
I did not limit the definition.
You need to state your source.
There is still an important distinction between rulers that claim to be divine and scriptures that are considered to be blessed by God. You can have a combination of both in some cases.
τhε ṿαlε'ṡ lïlÿ;1408880 said:Allah Akbar bism illah bism illah
Masha'Allah... Israel was and still is terrified of these Egyptian soldiers (contrary to Zionist media propaganda about the invincible Israeli army, which can't even defeat Hizbullah).
τhε ṿαlε'ṡ lïlÿ;1412668 said:
Didn't they predict their own demise in 2012? insha'Allah victory will be ours soon and all the death, destruction, greed and oppression those Zionist pigs imposed upon the world will come down on their heads a million fold... but we've so many and I mean soooooooooo many wrinkles to smooth, with damage and corruption going back nearly 200 years .. I'd like a nice alliance with Turkey, and perhaps a few other middle eastern countries once they rid of their despots insha'Allah.. Jordan, Libya, Yemen.. I am hopeful.. so let's make du3a and our intentions sincere insha'Allah...
Why are all your sources legal dictionaries? Legal, medical, etc. dictionaries are often slightly different to what's in common use. Why don't you use Collins? Oxford? Chambers? Ones which are for language? The legal dictionaries you've used aren't even the popular ones, I mean what's mimi.hu?! and do you take it's definition over OED? :S
The question, though, does the criteria for a theocracy change if the source of the divine inspiration is direct (i.e. leader says they speak with God who tells him the law needs to be X) or a written source (i.e. Islamic scholars say that according to hadith God wants to law to be X).
Which brings up another interesting question. Was Sharia a theocracy when Muhammad was alive, yet then not a theocracy after he died? Although that is probably a discussion for another thread.
Regardless, it will be interesting to see what form of government Egypt comes up with and how influenced it is by both Western democracy and Sharia.
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