Younger Muslims 'radical' - heated debate

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IbnAbdulHakim said:
jizya is the money paid to the poor, so we take it from you and give it to the needy :), dont worry muslims pay zakaat, so its all fair and justice, we dont treat you worser then others :)
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Wait..am I to understand that jizya is an involuntary duty on non-muslims and zakaat is voluntary? That hardly seems fair. Can I at least, take a mortgage interest deduction on jizya?
 
Hi Cognescenti. :)


Islaam is a religion of justice and doesn't call people to do the attacks on innocents like you've seen on the media. Islaam call's to the obedience of our Creator, God Almighty. Our purpose of life is to obey Him and to obey His commandments over the law of any of the creation. So God sends us messengers from among mankind who have clear signs to call people to the obedience of God. The obedience of God leads to justice and mercy among mankind.

God has sent many messengers to mankind, all had the same message of obeying God over the creation. These messengers lived simple lives and worked hard to establish God's law on earth. The final messenger of God was Muhammad (peace be upon him) who had the same message as all the previous prophets - islaam, which means submission to God Almighty. All the prophets came with this message.


Those who accept God and His messengers were opposed by many people who wanted to have authority over people, they never wanted the slave man to be equal to the rich man. Rather they desired this world only. Whereas God desired that they have goodness in this world and the hereafter. Those who obeyed the messenger, God gave them an easier life in this world and the one to come.. we all will die - and we are all responsible for our actions. When we die, we will be raised up once again to be judged on all that we did.


God Almighty says in the Qur'an:

"How can you deny God, when you were dead and God gave you life? Then God will cause you to die, and then revive you, and then you will be returned to God." (Quran 2:28)

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We are all responsible for our actions. And the purpose of our life is to obey God and not associate partners with Him. That means obedience to God in regard to treating people gently, kindly, helping the needy, keeping up family ties, smiling at your brother in humanity etc.


The Messenger of God (peace be upon him) said:

'The best among you in Islam are those with the best manners, so long as they develop a sense of understanding.' "

Hadith - Bukhari's Book of Manners #286 and Ahmad

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The non muslims who live in an islamic state and pay the jizya [if they can afford it] - their blood and honor is protected and they aren't forced to follow islaam.

Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things. [Qur'an 2:256]


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If an enemy comes to the muslim lands, it is the muslims duty to fight to defend even the non muslims who are in that islamic state. Yet the non muslims don't have to fight.

These non muslims can even follow their own law in that nation and can establish their own courts. They have freedom to worship in their own churches and temples. Did you ever hear that on the media?



Try keeping an open mind and maybe you'll see that islaam is a just religion. It is the way of life which God has ordained upon mankind, yet most of them don't know.


This is why alot of people have turned to islaam, due to the fact that it fits with logic and because it is just and a whole way of life. :)




Peace.



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Tayyaba

do you notice that in many of your posts you tell people that they misunderstood what you were saying? I have apparently done it a couple of times myself. Maybe you should be a little more clear when you post so that there is no two ways in reading it.. not trying to start an argument with you or anything just trying to give you a helpful suggestion.:D
 
MTAFFI said:
Tayyaba

do you notice that in many of your posts you tell people that they misunderstood what you were saying? I have apparently done it a couple of times myself. Maybe you should be a little more clear when you post so that there is no two ways in reading it.. not trying to start an argument with you or anything just trying to give you a helpful suggestion.:D
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i gotcha :D
 
Re: Younger Muslims 'radical'

England said:
There will be videos. You find alsorts of videos on the internet. It doesn't mean it's increasing. You will also find the odd post there and then of people converting on this site but they have searched the internet for this forum to gain credit. It is still a tiny proportion. It doesn't mean it's increasing at all.
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hi england,

i helped start a little project called "new muslim project - sheffield" which as it sounds was a project to help new muslims in sheffield, uk or sheffield, eng if you prefer.

now we have had a lot of people reverting to islam recently and now the trend has just gone through the roof, we cannot keep up with teaching all the new muslims how to pray, wash themselves to pray etc etc and the mosques cannot keep up either hence the need for a new muslim project in the first place.

from personal experience i can tell you that not only are a lot of people reverting to islam, but the trend is increasing dramatically, at least where i live anyway.

Abu Abdullah
 
Re: Younger Muslims 'radical'

Cognescenti said:
Can I at least, take a mortgage interest deduction on jizya?
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No way! There is no interest in an Islamic state- it is a low practise, filled with injustice and it is a major sin in Islam to charge interest, or to even pay interest.
 

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