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    Brothers and Sisters.

    I live in Jerusalem. I want to make it clear, that I think my childrens futures would be better of under Israeli control. My kids go to very good schools, they learn a lot, because of Israel they will be able to go to college for FREE. Just because we are Muslims and a minority Israel is going to give my kids a FREE COLLEGE. I was very happy at recieving this news.

    I have a cousin who was killed in the Gaza Strip! Not by an Israeli, but by his own countrymen. By a Hamas supporter. Hamas and Fatah have spent all of the money that should go to building schools and hospitals to buying bullets. They killed innocent in Gaza, and are out fo control with there hunger for power against eachother. The innocent are the ones who paid the price. My cousin paid the price.

    I look at the Gaza Strip, and the West Bank, and I look at the instabability, and how even after Palestine is a country and my people get a country of there own, Fatah and Hamas will continue fighting, and the people who want peace for there children like me will be lost in the cross fire.

    I would just like to let you know that I am a Muslim who lives under Israeli control and I am not opressed.

    Hate me because I do not go along with your agenda, but I could not care. Call me up when its your kids futures on the line, and call me up when your not just watching this whole conflict from your TV set in England.

    When the bullets are flying and they could actually hit YOU. Your opinion changes into a voice for peace.

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    Re: My view from Jerusalem

    I find it hilarious that people from London, Indonesia, and America arguing with someone that actually lives there. Who would know more someone who lives it everyday or someone who comes to islamicboard to read articles about it? It's the same thing with Lebanon and Lara. Because these people don't agree with you they must be ignorant. Hell people here try to tell me about my own people.
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    Re: My view from Jerusalem

    format_quote Originally Posted by ManchesterFolk View Post
    I gave you the links to show you it was copy and paste work you moron.

    It shows you how you sound like one of Hitlers top guys saying 'final solution'

    But then again your probably like the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem. Hitlers biggest supporter straight from the Middle East!

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    Re: My view from Jerusalem

    format_quote Originally Posted by abdmez View Post
    Brothers and Sisters.

    I live in Jerusalem. I want to make it clear, that I think my childrens futures would be better of under Israeli control. My kids go to very good schools, they learn a lot, because of Israel they will be able to go to college for FREE. Just because we are Muslims and a minority Israel is going to give my kids a FREE COLLEGE. I was very happy at recieving this news.

    I have a cousin who was killed in the Gaza Strip! Not by an Israeli, but by his own countrymen. By a Hamas supporter. Hamas and Fatah have spent all of the money that should go to building schools and hospitals to buying bullets. They killed innocent in Gaza, and are out fo control with there hunger for power against eachother. The innocent are the ones who paid the price. My cousin paid the price.

    I look at the Gaza Strip, and the West Bank, and I look at the instabability, and how even after Palestine is a country and my people get a country of there own, Fatah and Hamas will continue fighting, and the people who want peace for there children like me will be lost in the cross fire.

    I would just like to let you know that I am a Muslim who lives under Israeli control and I am not opressed.

    Hate me because I do not go along with your agenda, but I could not care. Call me up when its your kids futures on the line, and call me up when your not just watching this whole conflict from your TV set in England.

    When the bullets are flying and they could actually hit YOU. Your opinion changes into a voice for peace.

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    Abdul
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    Re: My view from Jerusalem

    format_quote Originally Posted by Dawud_uk View Post
    assalaamu alaykum,

    i would urge you to look at the works of classical scholars like ibn taymiyyah who made the ruling that the one who lived in and helped the occupation of muslim land by even living there and paying their taxes, even if he professed islam was still a valid target himself for this.

    helping the kuffar in their occupation of muslim lands is kufr and may Allah give you guidence because your words in not repented from could land you in the hellfire.

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    You have to realize that by this logic, you are in a no better place to live in the UK
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    Re: My view from Jerusalem

    Woodrow, I would send some reps your way, but the way the system is set up, I can’t.

    Your words here “Sadly people that have never experienced war, tend to glorify it” seemed to address some of the posts I have seen made by younger folks.

    At times, their pro-war posts make me wonder, if they feel that way as strongly as their posts suggest, then why are they on the computer instead of in the trenches somewhere?

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    Re: My view from Jerusalem

    format_quote Originally Posted by Dahir View Post
    Only if the warmongers and Hamas-sympathizers knew that!

    I know Israel is a good state, its just the few bloodthirsty warmongers who say otherwise and who side with Hezbollah and Hamas.

    I pray for you and your family and I hope that one day Palestinians realize that Israel is there to help not occupy!

    -Dahir! Supporter of a united and peaceful Israel.
    are you serious here??
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    Re: My view from Jerusalem

    format_quote Originally Posted by abdmez View Post
    Brothers and Sisters.

    I live in Jerusalem. I want to make it clear, that I think my childrens futures would be better of under Israeli control. My kids go to very good schools, they learn a lot, because of Israel they will be able to go to college for FREE. Just because we are Muslims and a minority Israel is going to give my kids a FREE COLLEGE. I was very happy at recieving this news.

    I have a cousin who was killed in the Gaza Strip! Not by an Israeli, but by his own countrymen. By a Hamas supporter. Hamas and Fatah have spent all of the money that should go to building schools and hospitals to buying bullets. They killed innocent in Gaza, and are out fo control with there hunger for power against eachother. The innocent are the ones who paid the price. My cousin paid the price.

    I look at the Gaza Strip, and the West Bank, and I look at the instabability, and how even after Palestine is a country and my people get a country of there own, Fatah and Hamas will continue fighting, and the people who want peace for there children like me will be lost in the cross fire.

    I would just like to let you know that I am a Muslim who lives under Israeli control and I am not opressed.

    Hate me because I do not go along with your agenda, but I could not care. Call me up when its your kids futures on the line, and call me up when your not just watching this whole conflict from your TV set in England.

    When the bullets are flying and they could actually hit YOU. Your opinion changes into a voice for peace.

    Regards,

    Abdul

    Treat and served the minority well but cruel over the majority of your brotherhood,you should know how tricky is jewish.Of course they wouldn't oppress over the minority muslim in their land, "thats mean they do not want any enemy element from inside" BTW i dont know what is your really point or agenda.
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    Sounds like his "agenda" is living in peace....
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    Re: My view from Jerusalem

    format_quote Originally Posted by starfortress View Post

    Treat and served the minority well but cruel over the majority of your brotherhood,you should know how tricky is jewish.Of course they wouldn't oppress over the minority muslim in their land, "thats mean they do not want any enemy element from inside" BTW i dont know what is your really point or agenda.
    I wonder, if Palestine achieved fully independence from Israel. Would the State of Palestine treat their Jewish citizens (eg. the Samaritans) fairly?
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    Re: My view from Jerusalem

    format_quote Originally Posted by Hijrah View Post
    You have to realize that by this logic, you are in a no better place to live in the UK

    assalaamu alaykum hijrah,

    i am fully aware of the illogical position i am in, and am making preperations to make hijrah myself.

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    Re: My view from Jerusalem

    You all fail to focus on the fact that someone living in the middle of the crossfire has a different opinion then the greedy people who have hijacked the Palestinian cause into a cause for destroying Israel and killing Jews.
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    Re: My view from Jerusalem

    format_quote Originally Posted by Dawud_uk View Post
    assalaamu alaykum hijrah,

    i am fully aware of the illogical position i am in, and am making preperations to make hijrah myself.

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    Re: My view from Jerusalem

    i actually got slightly sucked in by this, but then i used a little gift called a brain (Alhamdullilah, subhanAllah) And i realised that its still not justifying the occupation of islamic territory and killing of thousands and traumatising nearly a million !
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    i actually got slightly sucked in by this, but then i used a little gift called a brain (Alhamdullilah, subhanAllah) And i realised that its still not justifying the occupation of islamic territory and killing of thousands and traumatising nearly a million !
    But bro. Abdmez is there, he sees no oppression. Don't you have to take his words just slightly into consideration. Peace reigns where Hamas does not.
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    Re: My view from Jerusalem

    format_quote Originally Posted by Dahir View Post
    But bro. Abdmez is there, he sees no oppression. Don't you have to take his words just slightly into consideration. Peace reigns where Hamas does not.
    They would love his opinion if he followed there agenda, but it is to bad for them that abdmez is an individual thinker.
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    They don't like 'individual' thinkers...
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    Oh well.

    Props to Abdul for speaking his mind.
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    They would love his opinion if he followed there agenda, but it is to bad for them that abdmez is an individual thinker.
    Good thing Abdmez makes things right and breaks the stereotypes where they stand!
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    "This world is a blank price tag, and whatever value you put on it, is what its worth to you. I have made this world priceless and worthless, so therefore I have placed my value in the afterlife."

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