Isrealis Dates for Ramadhan:Boycott

Salaam,

[PIE]Israeli Dates Flood France in Ramadan

By Hadi Yahmid, IOL Correspondent

PARIS — French Muslims have launched a campaign to boycott Israeli dates that poured into the markets ahead of the holy fasting month of Ramadan, which starts Sunday, September 24, in the European country.

"The Union of Muslim Associations has urged French Muslims to boycott Israeli dates flooding the French market during Ramadan," Hasan Farsado, the UMA leader in the Seine-Saint-Denis district, told IslamOnline.net Saturday, September 23.

The dates, nicknamed as the "dates of Jordan River," could be seen in abundance across predominantly Muslim French districts.

"Islamic organizations have called on residents to make sure of the country of origin before buying the dates," Farsado said.

French Muslims, estimated at some six millions, are set to start fasting on Sunday, September 24.

Muslims are used to breaking their fast with dates, following in the footsteps of Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him).

Muslim adults - excepting the sick, infirm and those on a journey - are required to abstain from food, water and sexual relations during daylight hours throughout Ramadan.

Symbol

Ramadan is seen by the second and third generations of French Muslims as a poignant symbol of their Islamic identity.

A poll by LaFe magazine showed that the majority of Muslims, particularly of the second and third generations, is committed to following the Islamic traditions during Ramadan.

Some 88% of French Muslims said they are keen on fasting Ramadan, according to the poll.

Nearly 43% of the respondents also said they were practicing Muslims, while four percent said they were keen on performing hajj.

Some 20% of those surveyed also said they are used to reciting the Noble Qur'an to recite some verses of the Noble Qur'an for at least once a week.[/PIE]

So do look out for in your area,and ask where it comes from,do not support this regime to murder our brothers and sisters.

Zulkiflim said:

So do look out for in your area,and ask where it comes from,do not support this regime to murder our brothers and sisters.

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Of course, as opposed to the Israeli 'regime', the only people actually likely to be affected are the farmers who grow the dates and those who work for them, a large number of whom are probably muslims themselves, but what the heck, eh?

I know that they grow dates in Israel..... but export it to Muslim nation? Dont think so..... there are too much supplies from Iran and Saudi..... plus Israeli dates are not well known like Iranian or Saudi dates eg.. maryami, ruttab etc...

Trumble said:

Of course, as opposed to the Israeli 'regime', the only people actually likely to be affected are the farmers who grow the dates and those who work for them, a large number of whom are probably muslims themselves, but what the heck, eh?

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Yeah but dude, I like dates from Iran. They're so juicy!

Muezzin said:

Yeah but dude, I like dates from Iran. They're so juicy!

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I was surprised to see the French companies buying Israeli Dates. The dates from Israel are the most costly to buy because production is still in it's Infancy. French companies are about the largest Date exporters in the world and normaly they bought most of their dates from Iranian farms and repackaged them in France for world wide sales. French companies even buy our California Dates, repackage them and us American consumers buy them as "imported" dates.

Trumble said:

Of course, as opposed to the Israeli 'regime', the only people actually likely to be affected are the farmers who grow the dates and those who work for them, a large number of whom are probably muslims themselves, but what the heck, eh?

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Boycotts and sanctions worked against South Africa.

Yes,
The black South Africans also suffered from the boycotts. But they were suffering under apartheid, too.

Governments need to know how people feel. Boycotts like this will tell governments (and corporations) that pressure needs to be put on Israel to end the oppression of the Palestinians.

Obi-Wan said:

Boycotts and sanctions worked against South Africa.

Yes,
The black South Africans also suffered from the boycotts. But they were suffering under apartheid, too.

Governments need to know how people feel. Boycotts like this will tell governments (and corporations) that pressure needs to be put on Israel to end the oppression of the Palestinians.

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The problem is who is the pressure being put on? Will the Israeli government actualy loose any money? I would doubt it. Chances are the farmers have already paid the export fees. The French distributors have probably already paid for the Dates, so the ones who will feel the pressure will be the French retailers and that will only last until they find an alternate market.

Be just a matter of days before they show up elsewhre in the world under a French Label

so... how exactly is this going to help the palestinians? will this make israel remove border sanctions on palestine? will this stop random killing of palestinian children? but forget that though how is this going to help the ummah as a whole? the israelis dont need to sell dates to get money and arms. the goverments know how people feel.

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so... how exactly is this going to help the palestinians? will this make israel remove border sanctions on palestine? will this stop random killing of palestinian children? but forget that though how is this going to help the ummah as a whole? the israelis dont need to sell dates to get money and arms. the goverments know how people feel.

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Salaam,

The US are the biggest contributor for the Isrealis and thy have giving money woth billions year on year.

The US in the long run is not sustainable,if it continue in its current trend.

And thus if the US do not give money to the Isrealis ,how will thy stand,,,by their own economy..

And thus they are trying this as hard as possible.
To create a market for their goods.

So stop their economy,make the US purge more money to sustain Israel,with their current cost of living and we will se how long it last.

Muezzin said:

Yeah but dude, I like dates from Iran. They're so juicy!

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LOL.. oddly enough, so do I. The figs are even better. Iran seems really big on dried fruit.

Zulkiflim said:

Salaam,

The US are the biggest contributor for the Isrealis and thy have giving money woth billions year on year.

The US in the long run is not sustainable,if it continue in its current trend.

And thus if the US do not give money to the Isrealis ,how will thy stand,,,by their own economy..

And thus they are trying this as hard as possible.
To create a market for their goods.

So stop their economy,make the US purge more money to sustain Israel,with their current cost of living and we will se how long it last.

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So far the US has been reducing any money to Israel by 120 million dollars per year. The current budget for 2006 is down to 240 million. 2007 will be the final year for any US payments. Israel is fairly well self sustaining. It produced $155 Billion in proucts last year. Americans bought $13 Billion of it the remainder was sold to other countries. Israel is now the largest single producer of military weapons and last year sold 10% of the worlds weapons to other nations. At the moment Israel companies are doing their largest investment in asiatic countries, largely in China.

VC firm to finance Israeli companies operating in Asia

Infinity Venture Capital has launched a USD 100 million to USD 150 million fund to invest in Israeli companies doing business abroad, with 40 percent of the funds targeted to Israeli-related deals in China. ...

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The Israeli companies attracting the most foriegn investors are:

D&B: Teva – Israeli company most wanted by world

Teva, Israel Aircraft Industries Ltd. and Oil Refineries Ltd. are the Israeli companies the world is most interested in, a survey conducted by Dun & Bradstreet regarding foreign companies and businesses' interest ...
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Plus the Lebannon war made about $480 million surplus from foreign investments.

Foreign investment totals USD 480 million during war

The Bank of Israel announced that, despite the war in Lebanon, foreign investment in Israel totaled USD 480 million during the war. Foreign investment totaled USD 358 million in August alone. The figures show ...

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There is currently a deal in negotiation with Jordan:

Israel to allow electricity import from Jordan to Jericho

National Infrastructure Minister Binyamin Ben Eliezer approved the setting up of an electricity connection between Jericho and the Jordanian kingdom. If the project materializes, this would be the first time that a ...

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The source for the quotes are an Israeli economics paper. So use your own judgement on the reliability. However, from reading that report it looks like Israel has no real need for any future US economic aid.

Source for the Quotes: http://www.ynetnews.com/home/0,7340,L-3184,00.html

As more investors begin investing in Israel the more difficult it is for any boycot to to have any impact. Looks like Israel is doing much of it's prouction outside of Israel and that the larger Israeli companies are not even in Israel.

The best chance for Palestine is for Palestine to build up It's own resources and become economicaly stable.

Boycotting Israel products will have little effect on Israel as their major products are not even made in Israel.

Salaam,

Like i said,all this happens due to western aid,,direct aid and indirect aid all sum up to be aid,to support their economy.

The US coutnries are literally forcing the business with trade deals and icnetives towards Israel..

that is why their PEACE is so much valued by the US and Israel.

Every attack causes investors to worry and shudder.
Every act of resistance casues the economy to be destabilised.


http://www.washington-report.org/html/us_aid_to_israel.htm

And the Isrealis exporting weapons and what not of course it is their best commondity,they are able to test out their wapons on Palesitnian dont they.
New bombs and missiles and so on wihout any repurcussion.

And moderate muslim support such endeauvour.

And Inshallah,as always oh ummah,,,boycott Israel and stop their economy.


As the Quran states,any beleiver who kill another willingly will enter hell.

And by supoorting such outputs from these countries you are just signing a bomb for the Palesitian and the Ummah.

[PIE]Cost to U.S. Taxpayers of U.S.
Aid to Israel

Grand Total
$84,854,827,200

Interest Costs Borne by U.S.
$49,936,680,000

Total Cost to U.S. Taxpayers
$134,791,507,200

Total Taxpayer Cost per Israeli
$23,240[/PIE]

Israel GDP

[PIE]GDP - per capita
purchasing power parity - $24,600(2005 est.)[/PIE]

How about Israelis buying Malaysian electrical and electronic product? Imagine if they boycott Malaysian goods...

north_malaysian said:

How about Israelis buying Malaysian electrical and electronic product? Imagine if they boycott Malaysian goods...

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Salaam,

Do you need aid from Israel?
And likewise Malaysia should stop any export tthat goes to Israel.

That should be the same for any country that claim itself to be muslim..Inshallah

But interesting,what do Malaysia export to Israel?

Intel chips?

Zulkiflim said:

Salaam,

Do you need aid from Israel?
And likewise Malaysia should stop any export tthat goes to Israel.

That should be the same for any country that claim itself to be muslim..Inshallah

But interesting,what do Malaysia export to Israel?

Intel chips?

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It's ILLEGAL to export Malaysian goods to Israel and vice versa... SO it's exported thru your country, Singapore.

For Malaysian government, it's not recognized as Malaysian-Israeli trade relationship but treated as Malaysian-Singaporean. But Israel recognized it as Malaysian-Israeli trade ..... from what I've read long time ago Malaysian exports to Israel worth millions of dollars... mostly electrical goods with word "MADE IN MALAYSIA".

Intel, Motorola, Infineon have huge factories here .... maybe they exported their goods to Israel too....

Maybe lavikor can do a survey on how many Malaysian goods inside Israel and from which manufacturers?

i find that so slack just because thier government is a bit in human dosnt mean they are i know ur sending out a message and i dont blame them but dont punish ppl for other ppls actions

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How about Israelis buying Malaysian electrical and electronic product? Imagine if they boycott Malaysian goods...

Salaam,

Do you need aid from Israel?
And likewise Malaysia should stop any export tthat goes to Israel.

That should be the same for any country that claim itself to be muslim..Inshallah

But interesting,what do Malaysia export to Israel?

Intel chips?

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I believe Nike Sportswear is one of the biggest commerical good being exported to Israel by Malaysia. My own Nike outdoor shoe is made in Malaysia according to the tag on it.

north_malaysian
How about Israelis buying Malaysian electrical and electronic product? Imagine if they boycott Malaysian goods...

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Try and find other buyers; this would be more appropriate than feeding Israel on Malaysian-made goods. Any Jew in the US would do so if it were Israel being beaten each single day by a Muslim country...

Cost to U.S. Taxpayers of U.S.
Aid to Israel

Grand Total
$84,854,827,200

Interest Costs Borne by U.S.
$49,936,680,000

Total Cost to U.S. Taxpayers
$134,791,507,200

Total Taxpayer Cost per Israeli
$23,240

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The promising fact is that more and more Americans are beginning to question their [Government's] unequivocal help to Israel. This is a good sign that finally appears on the horizon. You must have read that famous article written by two well-known scholars from Yale and Harvard universities which asserts Israel is not necessarily the only ally ally US might have in the Middle East and which demonstrates that such a direct identicalness with Israel does actually harm US interests in the region.

Now it is hightime -when public sentiment nurtured against Israel is so dense- for Muslims, especially our American muslim brothers and sisters to take action and enlighten their communities by working in synch about the present and future hazards US is bound to endure just because of some ideologists' perching on the key positions in the current government.

The problem with any boycot is trying to have a boycot that actualy targets the right person. anything labeled Israel does not necessarily mean it is an Israeli product. Israel is the primary export point for not only Israel but also for Palestine, Syria, and Jordan. Many goods that come from those countries will pass through an Israeli brokerage or assmbly company and are labeled as Israeli products for trade. Those Israeli dates are very likely to have been the produce of Palestinians.

The real solution is not to do the negative but to do the positive, which is to help Palestine become a trade center. That can be one of the keys to Palestinian freedom and self sufficiency. Until Palestine can be self sufficient it will be dependent on Israel for buying Palestinian products. The few manufacturers and food producers in Palestine rely on Israel to buy their goods. There is a very unhealthy symbionic relationship between Israel and Palestine. What helps one helps the other. What hurts one hurts the other. Neither, especialy Palestinians like the situation. But, until the Muslim world starts buying Palestinian goods, the situation is not likely to change.

Now the big problem is what can be boycoted that would actualy make an impact on Israel. Keep in mind many of the Israeli products are not produced in Israel. Check out IKEA furniture a scandinavian company that on the surface has no ties with Israel. Yet, in the Mideast Israel is one of their largest distributors. If you buy IKEA products in most mideastern countries, the profits help Israel. But, the same distributorship has centers in several of the Mideastern countries to buy from any of them also helps support Israel. Yet to boycot IKEA would also hurt the Islamic countries.

It would be very difficult to find any product that does not have some Israeli investment involved and results in profit for Israel. the only true boycot of Israel products will come when Muslim countries will produce Muslim products for Muslims.

i agree with woodrow 100 % it so true and then we wont have the problem of reading labels lol:giggling:

The real wars of today are wars of economics. Yet, so few of the worlds people are aware of the war and only seek immediate military victories, that in the long run helps those we are fighting against. The battle is for Muslim countries to become product producers and not just consumers that complain about the source.

The wealthiest oil countries, need to rely on imported products just for the necessities of life. Paradoxoly, they support the countries they alledgedly despise. Most oil producing countries do not even produce their own gasoline and need to depend on foreign petroleum companies, which are owned by investors a large percentage of them being Israeli.

Nearly all the food consumed in the mideast is imported. The mideastern countries have very few natural resources and very little arable land. Nearly all building supplies and food products need to be imported. They import through international corporations that are owned by investors (stock holders) they never stop to think as to who the stock holders are.

The only solution is to become self sufficient and return the global economy to local levels.



Take any product you own, take it apart, look at where the componants are made, look at where it was assembled and see the investor make up of the brand name it is sold under. I doubt if there is any product sold in international markets that does not produce a profit for investors from nearly every country. Unless we start producing essentials within the confines of our own countries, we have no way of knowing who we are supporting.