Isrealis Dates for Ramadhan:Boycott

[north_malaysian]

The real wars of today are wars of economics. Yet, so few of the worlds people are aware of the war and only seek immediate military victories, that in the long run helps those we are fighting against. The battle is for Muslim countries to become product producers and not just consumers that complain about the source.

The wealthiest oil countries, need to rely on imported products just for the necessities of life. Paradoxoly, they support the countries they alledgedly despise. Most oil producing countries do not even produce their own gasoline and need to depend on foreign petroleum companies, which are owned by investors a large percentage of them being Israeli.

Nearly all the food consumed in the mideast is imported. The mideastern countries have very few natural resources and very little arable land. Nearly all building supplies and food products need to be imported. They import through international corporations that are owned by investors (stock holders) they never stop to think as to who the stock holders are.

The only solution is to become self sufficient and return the global economy to local levels.



Take any product you own, take it apart, look at where the componants are made, look at where it was assembled and see the investor make up of the brand name it is sold under. I doubt if there is any product sold in international markets that does not produce a profit for investors from nearly every country. Unless we start producing essentials within the confines of our own countries, we have no way of knowing who we are supporting.

Do you realised that most of 'so-called' Israeli companies also have Muslim shareholders too....?

 

[Woodrow]

Do you realised that most of 'so-called' Israeli companies also have Muslim shareholders too....?

I would go as far to say that they all do. Converse is also true. virtualy all Muslim companies have Jewish shareholders too

 

[north_malaysian]

I would go as far to say that they all do. Converse is also true. virtualy all Muslim companies have Jewish shareholders too

is it? How about OUR largest company PETRONAS.... do they have Jewish shareholders too... hmmm.... need some research.....

Prince Al Waleed bin Talal has investment in AOL, Apple Computer, Motorola, Four Seasons Hotel, Euro Disneyland

 

[Woodrow]

is it? How about OUR largest company PETRONAS.... do they have Jewish shareholders too... hmmm.... need some research.....

Prince Al Waleed bin Talal has investment in AOL, Apple Computer, Motorola, Four Seasons Hotel, Euro Disneyland

If shares are sold on the open exchange it will have Jewish investors along with Christians Atheists and anything you can think of.

 

[Woodrow]

From what I can find the Parent company Petronas Twin Towers is Government owned however the many world wide subsidieries are on the open stock exchanges so inderectly it would be safe to say there are Israeli investors.

Especialy the Japanese branch:

PETRONAS MITCO Japan Sdn Bhd

 

[Zulkiflim]

It's ILLEGAL to export Malaysian goods to Israel and vice versa... SO it's exported thru your country, Singapore.

For Malaysian government, it's not recognized as Malaysian-Israeli trade relationship but treated as Malaysian-Singaporean. But Israel recognized it as Malaysian-Israeli trade ..... from what I've read long time ago Malaysian exports to Israel worth millions of dollars... mostly electrical goods with word "MADE IN MALAYSIA".

Intel, Motorola, Infineon have huge factories here .... maybe they exported their goods to Israel too....

Maybe lavikor can do a survey on how many Malaysian goods inside Israel and from which manufacturers?

Salaam,

Yes Sg have trade deal with Israel for our country is small.And our gov have to depend on the good graces of the western power to remian viable n the current economy.

They are even buiding 2 casinos despit the majority of Singaporeans who do not want it.

Inshallah,maybe if you found this then you can highlight to Malaysia authorities and let us see what they do.


For the Ummah must try to remain united for then the moderates and hyprocrites and kafirs will turn back and say..SEE EGYPT AND JORDAN are buying Isrealis good.....they are muslim so why cant we..

And they ask why is the Ummah so weak

 

[Woodrow]

One of the most difficult things to do is to identify an Israeli product. The fact something comes from Israel does not always mean it was made or produced by Israelis or that it is taxed by Israel. Nearly all Palestinian products will be labeled as made in Israel or Product of Israel. The other problem is many products not made in Israel are made by Israeli owned companies. It can be said with almost certainty that if you own any brand name product, the company will have Israeli investors.

 

[Mr. Baldy]

Salaam,

The US are the biggest contributor for the Isrealis and thy have giving money woth billions year on year.

The US in the long run is not sustainable,if it continue in its current trend.

And thus if the US do not give money to the Isrealis ,how will thy stand,,,by their own economy..

And thus they are trying this as hard as possible.
To create a market for their goods.

So stop their economy,make the US purge more money to sustain Israel,with their current cost of living and we will se how long it last.

fine thats great. but what we really need is for muslim rulers to act, for egypt and saudi to stop ignoring its borders. for pakistan to deploy its army. thats what we need. if you boycott israels economy they will find some other way, or the USA will start a phoney war to 'destabillise' the region and come in so they can legitimatley use military budget to supply islrael with arms to keep palestine and all the other muslim countries surpressed

 

[Zulkiflim]

Salaam,

No the boycott should stand why it is simple for support of Palestine.

Make it know why you boycott the product.

When you purchase a product with the branding MADE IN ISRAEL...then you are giving tacit suport for the the Jews to murder more and more Palesitnian.


Consider this,a product is made in Palesitne,sent to Israel,renamed made in Israel..sent thru Isrelis ports,then sent out to the world.

who get the gains?
The Palesitnians?
How much land have the Jews taken form the palestinian to do usch as they are doing now?

In short you are giving Israel a good name,giving Israel more trade deals and money and thus more money to buys weapons to bom the VERY SAME PALESTINIAN whom sent their good to Israel.

So it is a cycle...

And people who do not boycott are supporitng the cycle.

Israel will not support a palesitne state,they always hesitate...
They will not support Palesitne to build a port casue then they will their ONLY avenue to control PALESTINE GROWTH.

So what is the best way?
Simple,Boycott Israel and make them lost big at every sector even in the pivotal services.make them aware that their actions have consequences.

instead if we do not boycott,they will say LOOK WE TRADE WITH MANY MUSLIM COUNTRIES AND THESE COUTNRIES BUYS LOAD OF ISRELAIS PRODUCT..

So you supoort Israel..

 

[Zulkiflim]

fine thats great. but what we really need is for muslim rulers to act, for egypt and saudi to stop ignoring its borders. for pakistan to deploy its army. thats what we need. if you boycott israels economy they will find some other way, or the USA will start a phoney war to 'destabillise' the region and come in so they can legitimatley use military budget to supply islrael with arms to keep palestine and all the other muslim countries surpressed

salaam,


Leader are human being ,,they will do what they will do..
But as individuals do we place our sin and deed on our leaders?
Do we blame other for our actiona nd faults?


Our leaders do as they see fit,they shall asnwer for it.

Inshallah..We should also do as we see fit and we will also be answerable..

I fear the Question when we are dead,,and we live again.

Do you follow other and acts as other does.
Astarfillah,if that were the cae Islam would never have been for the whn the Quraish asked the Prophet to stop his preaching and in return they will give him wealth and staus above all of them...he would have done it..

Astarfillah...

Is t so hard to not buy something?
Is it so hard to spend more for items that come from Islamic coutnries...
Is it so ahrd to research about item made in Israel,and what iten consist of item.. made in Israel?

Is it so hard...

 

[Zulkiflim]

Salaam,

And interesting read on why the US was so adamant that the Dubai company do not get control of US ports..

[PIE]Dubai ports firm enforces Israel boycott
By MICHAEL FREUND



The parent company of a Dubai-based firm at the center of a political storm in the US over the purchase of American ports participates in the Arab boycott against Israel, The Jerusalem Post has learned.

The firm, Dubai Ports World, is seeking control over six major US ports, including those in New York, Miami, Philadelphia and Baltimore. It is entirely owned by the Government of Dubai via a holding company called the Ports, Customs and Free Zone Corporation (PCZC), which consists of the Dubai Port Authority, the Dubai Customs Department and the Jebel Ali Free Zone Area.

"Yes, of course the boycott is still in place and is still enforced," Muhammad Rashid a-Din, a staff member of the Dubai Customs Department's Office for the Boycott of Israel, told the Post in a telephone interview.

"If a product contained even some components that were made in Israel, and you wanted to import it to Dubai, it would be a problem," he said.

A-Din noted that while the head office for the anti-Israel boycott sits in Damascus, he and his fellow staff members are paid employees of the Dubai Customs Department, which is a division of the PCZC, the same Dubai government-owned entity that runs Dubai Ports World.

Moreover, the Post found that the website for Dubai's Jebel Ali Free Zone Area, which is also part of the PCZC, advises importers that they will need to comply with the terms of the boycott.

In a section entitled "Frequently Asked Questions", the site lists six documents that are required in order to clear an item through the Dubai Customs Department. One of them, called a "Certificate of Origin," "is used by customs to confirm the country of origin and needs to be seen by the office which ensures any trade boycotts are enforced," according to the website.

A-Din of the Israel boycott office confirmed that his office examines certificates of origin as a means of verifying whether a product originated in the Jewish state.

On at least three separate occasions last year, the Post has learned, companies were fined by the US government's Office of Anti-boycott Compliance, an arm of the Commerce Department, on charges connected to boycott-related requests they had received from the Government of Dubai.

US law bars firms from complying with such requests or cooperating with attempts by Arab governments to boycott Israel.


In one instance, according to a Commerce Department press release, a New York-based exporter agreed to pay a fine for having "failed to report in a timely manner its receipts of requests from Dubai" to provide certification that its products had not been made in Israel.

The proposed handover of US ports to DP World has provoked a political storm in Washington, where Republicans and Democrats alike have expressed hostility to the plan, citing national security concerns.

In an attempt to stave off opposition, DP World agreed over the weekend to a highly unusual 45-day second federal investigation of potential security risks.[/PIE]

So look at this,arabs well some arabs coutnries are enforcing the boycott of all incoming part to ensure that NOT EVEN A SINGLE COMPONENT MADE IN ISRAEL ENTER ARAB COUTRNIES..

But what has the US done,since it cant force arab nation to not boycott,the punish those who comply with the boycott...

Simple isnt it,the arabs are making a stand to mulitnational companies,,,get your business out of Israel....we will take it,to the huge market filled wtih OIL money in muslim coutnries..

If you make a single componet in Israel then no thank you..

And so we in non Islamic coutnries shoul also do this boycott...indvidually...to aid the Palestinians..

 

[Zulkiflim]

Salaam,

An anotther

[PIE]US fumes as Iraq backs Israel boycott
By MICHAEL FREUND



The US-backed Iraqi government sent an official representative to this week's meeting of the Arab League Boycott Office in Damascus, The Jerusalem Post has learned, prompting criticism from members of Congress and the Bush administration.

Liaison officers from 14 countries met for four days this week to discuss ways of intensifying the Arab embargo against Israel. Among those taking part were delegates from several ostensible US allies, such as Iraq, Morocco, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Kuwait.

Tom Casey, a spokesman for the US State Department, told the Post that Washington was unhappy with Baghdad's action.

"We are disappointed by the decision of the Iraqi government to attend this meeting, and will be noting our concerns with Iraqi officials," he said. "We have raised this issue with Iraqi officials in the past and expect to raise it with them again."

"The US position on the Arab League boycott is well known," Casey noted, adding that "perpetuation of the Arab League boycott does greatest harm to those who participate in it by hampering their efforts to develop their economies."

Members of Congress were also critical of the Iraqi move.

Rep. Paul Ryan, a member of the House Ways and Means Committee, told the Post that "the US government has been very successful in negotiating the cancellation of Israeli boycotts from many countries throughout the Arab world. This would appear to be a big step in the wrong direction on the part of the new Iraqi government."

Ryan, a Republican, said he expected Washington to bring the matter up with Baghdad. "We should make our position clear, just like we do with every other Arab government," he said.

Contacted by phone, a spokesman for the Iraqi embassy in London declined to comment.

According to figures released this week by the Israel Export Institute, there has been a 46 percent rise in Israeli sales to Iraq (valued at $320,000), with 27 exporters active in that market dealing primarily with the US military.[/PIE]

So Isnhallah,if the Iraqis are able to boycott Israel despite its porblem,,why cant we?

astarfillah..


And the Us has already aid that any boycott of Israel is "hampering their own economy"...do making people rich mean they care less for otehr..

Can we prove them wrong?
Shall we sunite or should we sell our faith for dollars and cents..

For me Inshallah i boycott,for you your own ahnds and your minds shall be witness as mine will be in my DAY..

 

[Zulkiflim]

Salaam,

Another good read

http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?ItemID=10866

 

[Woodrow]

Salaam,

An anotther

[PIE]US fumes as Iraq backs Israel boycott
By MICHAEL FREUND



The US-backed Iraqi government sent an official representative to this week's meeting of the Arab League Boycott Office in Damascus, The Jerusalem Post has learned, prompting criticism from members of Congress and the Bush administration.

Liaison officers from 14 countries met for four days this week to discuss ways of intensifying the Arab embargo against Israel. Among those taking part were delegates from several ostensible US allies, such as Iraq, Morocco, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Kuwait.

Tom Casey, a spokesman for the US State Department, told the Post that Washington was unhappy with Baghdad's action.

"We are disappointed by the decision of the Iraqi government to attend this meeting, and will be noting our concerns with Iraqi officials," he said. "We have raised this issue with Iraqi officials in the past and expect to raise it with them again."

"The US position on the Arab League boycott is well known," Casey noted, adding that "perpetuation of the Arab League boycott does greatest harm to those who participate in it by hampering their efforts to develop their economies."

Members of Congress were also critical of the Iraqi move.

Rep. Paul Ryan, a member of the House Ways and Means Committee, told the Post that "the US government has been very successful in negotiating the cancellation of Israeli boycotts from many countries throughout the Arab world. This would appear to be a big step in the wrong direction on the part of the new Iraqi government."

Ryan, a Republican, said he expected Washington to bring the matter up with Baghdad. "We should make our position clear, just like we do with every other Arab government," he said.

Contacted by phone, a spokesman for the Iraqi embassy in London declined to comment.

According to figures released this week by the Israel Export Institute, there has been a 46 percent rise in Israeli sales to Iraq (valued at $320,000), with 27 exporters active in that market dealing primarily with the US military.[/PIE]

So Isnhallah,if the Iraqis are able to boycott Israel despite its porblem,,why cant we?

astarfillah..


And the Us has already aid that any boycott of Israel is "hampering their own economy"...do making people rich mean they care less for otehr..

Can we prove them wrong?
Shall we sunite or should we sell our faith for dollars and cents..

For me Inshallah i boycott,for you your own ahnds and your minds shall be witness as mine will be in my DAY..

I just believe boycoting Israel would be helping Israel and harming those we are trying to help. All I can see from a Boycot of Israel made product is job loses for Palestinians. And increased sales of non-Israel products from which Israel will make a larger profit.

Israels primary income is from non-product industries such as various services which inclde but is not limited to investment brokerage, wholesaling and other services which are used by virtualy all of the worlds businesses. Israeli products themselve are the lowest profit sources for Israel and loss of those will only hurt Palestinians and have no effect on Israel.

 

[therebbe]

More Palestinians lose jobs in date fields, therefore cannot feed there family, therefore a Muslim possibly dies.

 

[sacred_rose]

see i told it wasnt a good idea to boycot its wrong i reakon we should start our own and put money together and open up a muslim company which sells dates and other things.who agrees

 

[Woodrow]

see i told it wasnt a good idea to boycot its wrong i reakon we should start our own and put money together and open up a muslim company which sells dates and other things.who agrees

That is what the Palestinians in Israel have been trying to do. Except their Muslim Bothers and Sisters have been boycoting them under the pretext of boycoting Israel. Somehow people do not understand that because Palestine is not a world recognised nation Paletinian goods are considered made in Israel.

 

[sacred_rose]

well we should help them in merchandising their own labels which say made in palestine and we should help because we live in more welloff countries than they do

 

[Woodrow]

well we should help them in merchandising their own labels which say made in palestine and we should help because we live in more welloff countries than they do

That is what we do need to do. Palestinian products do need to be recognised as being made or raised by Palestinians.

 

[sacred_rose]

yeah they do need to recognised as palestinian products and we should not boycott them its not fair to them put ur selves in their shoes they are already having a hard time we dont need to make it worse