Isrealis Dates for Ramadhan:Boycott

[Woodrow]

wa Alaikum Salaamu,

I can see your views and if I thought they were workable I would be in complete areement with them. The problem is they are not workable as long as Palestine has no trading partners besides Israel and the US, 94.3% of all Palistinian production is bought by Israelis and resold as "Produced in Israel" although the production may only consist of sorting and packaging.


Salaam,

Again my question is simple...

Tell me,when you buy Isrealis goods,empower the Palestinians,increase the trade between Israelis and the world.

Many products that come from Israel are Palestinian goods or produced through Palestinian Labor. It is often Palestinian good we are talking about when boycotting Israeli goods. Many if not most Israeli production plants are not located in Israel.


What does it do to the Palestinians?

It gives them at least a meager salary to maintain life until the West Bank can be made a viable market place.

As you know,inshallah,the land the Isrealis control are Palesitnians.
The workers and Paletinain,on an ILLEGAL settlement.

True, however the first goal needs to be to assure the safety and health of the Palestinians before we can work on social and legal issues.

You yourself recognize that the Palesitnain are paid nuts for the tedious jobs.

I will agree with that.

But what is stop the Isrealis from penalising or forcing the Palestinian from cutting the pay TO INCREASE PROFIT?

The Palestinians, with our help developing the West Bank into being viable competion for Israel. If Palestinians had jobs in the West Bank in Palestinian owned businesses, they would not need to rely on Israeli jobs and Israelis would need to pay premium wages to get workers.

What is to stop the Isrelais from massacaring more Palestinian tro get more land for more products?
What is to stop the Isrealis from further debilitating the Palesitnain economy,so that they cna further reduce the pay of the average palestinians?

International witnesses from individual sources. That is why it is so important for those of us who support Palestine, to join organizations like Palsolidarity. (I have posted links in several posts in this thread) Not only is Palsolidarity taking active roles in Palistines the organization is active throughout Europe and the USA and is boycotting genuine Israeli goods, not goods produced in Israel

Like i said in the question,the Isrelais economic minister ask you,,why do you want to palesitnian state?
Dont you know the good you buy and wear are made cheap using palesitnian labour and palestinian land?If they have their own state would you support them?

What are we doing to support the Palestinians in becoming self sufficient?

For an economist,it just mean that Israel has strong support..

And also much of Israel's economy is not based in Israel. Look at Israel as being the sacrificial lamb to prevent Isreals true Economic strength from being harmed. Boycott an Israeli produced product and you hurt a Palestinian, not an Israeli.

I understand you want to talk about the Palestinian whom are working now under Isrealis rule for peanuts...May i ask,,how long will you want to perpetuate it?

I want it to end yesterday if not sooner. Which is why I support Palsolidarity.

 

[Zulkiflim]

Salaam,

[PIE]Tulkarem Farmers in Boycott of Israeli goods
September 19th, 2006 | Posted in International Actions, Tulkarem Region, Boycott & sanctions

Palestinian traders and farmers will gather in the Tulkarem Refugee Camp on September 20th for a Palestinian goods market, boycotting Israeli products as a statement of resistance against Israel’s ongoing occupation, The Grassroots Palestinian Anti-Apartheid Wall Campaign said.

The Campaign said that The Tulkarem trade fair will gather over a hundred businesses and farmers, many of them from Tulkarem Camp itself, as part of a growing movement to boycott Israeli goods and promote Palestinian produce.

“Seizure and destruction of land and property has made life almost impossible for many Palestinian farmers, and restrictions on movement have devastated trade,” it said.

The Trade Fair will run from September 20-23, from 9.00 - 4.00 every day in The Hall of the Martyr Kamal Saleem, Main Street, Tulkarem Refugee Camp.

The Trade Fair is organised by the Tulkarem Refugee Camp organising committee with the support of the Grassroots Palestinian Anti-Apartheid Wall Campaign.

During the first intifada Palestinians created ‘victory gardens’, mostly famously in Beit Sahour, in an effort to feed themselves without relying on Israeli goods.

Meanwhile, in the latest international boycott action, shops and supermarkets across Ireland were picketed last Saturday by the Ireland-Palestine Solidarity Campaign (IPSC) to mark the anniversary of the Sabra and Shatila massacres. Shops were targetted by pickets which handed out leaflets as well as by trolley actions, which involved activists filling up trolleys with Israeli products and taking them to the checkout to vociferously demand that these products no longer be sold. Actions took place in Dublin, Belfast, Cork, Limerick, Galway and Sligo. Especially targetted was the Irish-owned supermarket chain Dunnes Stores as this was where workers first refused to handle goods from Apartheid South Africa in 1984.

These actions coincided with a call in a letter to the Irish times signed by 61 Irish academics for a moratorium on EU support for Israeli academic institutions until Israel abides by UN resolutions and ends the occupation of Palestinian territories.[/PIE]


Here are kafirs boycotting and taking a stand while some Muslims try to ratinalize to support Israel..

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http://www.palsolidarity.org/main/2006/09/19/tulkarem-boycott/

[PIE]The Campaign said that The Tulkarem trade fair will gather over a hundred businesses and farmers, many of them from Tulkarem Camp itself, as part of a growing movement to boycott Israeli goods and promote Palestinian produce.[/PIE]


And ofcourse,the palesitnian products will cost more,,,,but is it worth it to pay for them?
Or do you want it to come cheap AT THE EXPENSE OF PALESTINIAN,,,

[PIE]Ynet: “Toronto church to boycott Israeli goods”
June 29th, 2006 | Posted in Press clippings, Boycott & sanctions

Toronto Star reports United Church of Canada’s Toronto branch to unveil boycott of Israeli products, companies doing business with its military to end what it calls ‘illegal occupation of Palestinian lands’; plan calls on Ottawa to require that products originating in the occupied territories be labeled differently from those coming from the rest of Israel. Ynetnews

from Yedioth Ahronoth, 29th June 2006

The United Church of Canada’s Toronto branch was set to unveil Wednesday a boycott of Israeli products and companies doing business with its military to end what it calls the illegal occupation of Palestinian lands, the Toronto Star reported.

The move comes on the heels of a similar controversial move by the Ontario wing of the Canadian Union of Public Employees, which last month voted to support an international boycott campaign against Israel to protest its treatment of Palestinian refugees.

“We want to commend that position,” Frances Combs, co-chair of the Toronto Conference of the United Church of Canada’s task force on Israel was quoted by the Toronto Star as saying.

According to the report, the boycott is being undertaken only by the 300-church Toronto conference of the United Church, not the church as a whole.[/PIE]

http://www.palsolidarity.org/main/2006/06/29/ynet-toronto-church-to-boycott-israeli-goods/

 

[Zulkiflim]

Salaam,

The Palestine Solidarity Campaign boycott page..

http://www.bigcampaign.org/

[PIE]Who Are We

The Palestine Solidarity Campaign launched the Boycott Israeli Goods Campaign in the House of Commons on the 4th July 2001. There had been calls for a boycott from within Israel itself as well as in the Occupied Territories.

Our decision to launch the BIG Campaign followed decades of Israel 's refusal to abide by UN Resolutions, International Humanitarian law and the Fourth Geneva Convention.

On 9th June 2005, after the International Court of Justice's ruling against Israel's apartheid wall, a coalition of Palestinian Civil Society Organisations issued a ‘Call for Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions against apartheid Israel until it complies with International Law'.

Boycott Israeli goods intends to campaign for Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions in line with this call from Palestinian civil society.

We will organise supporters to
Boycott Israeli goods and services
Boycott Israeli cultural and sporting institutions who do not condemn Israel's ilegal occupation
Boycott Israeli academic institutions and academics who do not condemn Israel's ilegal occupation
Promote a campaign against tourism in apartheid Israel
Promote divestment from companies who invest in apartheid Israel or profit from Israel's occupation and apartheid policies
To camapign against companies who invest in apartheid Israel or profit from Israel's occupation and apartheid policies
To persuade businesses to stop trading with apartheid Israel
To campaign for an end to European Union and British government trade agreements with Israel
To campaign for UK and EU sanctions against apartheid Israel until it complies with international humanitarian law
To promote initiatives to decrease the isolation of the occupied Palestinian people and promote ethical, fairly traded Palestinian goods.[/PIE]

 

[therebbe]

If you think that Israeli companies are so naive to depend on Arab support for there products, then I think you should re-evaluate your logic.

 

[Woodrow]

I am in favor of specific Boycotts promoted by Palsolidarity. I am against wild cat boycots that have not checked into the back ground of what good or harm will be done by the boycot.

 

[Abdulwaheed]

Thats is the smart and rational way of going about it. Boycotting is a good idea if it accomplishes its intended purpose of economically hurting Israel.
If its the palestinian date farmers that are suffering, there really isnt a point in going along with the boycott is there?
Like woodrow said. As long as a background check is done and no harm comes to the palestinians, then by all means the boycott should go ahead.

 

[Mr. Baldy]

Salaam,

Somtime when you look too big you do not see the small things.
i ask you as a man as an individual,,what can you do that will affect the chage in the Ummah as a whole?

Nothing..

we are called the Ummah to be a collective...an individual action,one by one if goes in the same flow Inshallah will casue a tornado.

But what do you see here now?

Even to boycott to spend a bit more to not support Israel....it is so hard to do..

brother, i do not agree with you, but i will make duah that your campaign will reach succes... inshallah

 

[Mr. Baldy]

If you think that Israeli companies are so naive to depend on Arab support for there products, then I think you should re-evaluate your logic.

hmm, well it seems that the west is wholly dependent on muslim oil, infact a percentage of the US economy is owned by the saudis... and where does israel get its support from? oh thats right the USA.

maybe you are just arrogant to think that the israelis can actually stand on there own feet.

 

[Woodrow]

I semi disagree with this statement:

hmm, well it seems that the west is wholly dependent on muslim oil, infact a percentage of the US economy is owned by the saudis... and where does israel get its support from? oh thats right the USA.

Not wholly dependent. Just use it as the luxury of not needing to render western land useless for agriculture and ecological stability. Of course the hand writing is all the wall. For the America's it is evident that we can no longer enjoy pristine scenic beauty if we are to maintain our love of petroleum products. It is obvious that very rapidly we need to tap into the oil in Colorado and Northern Canada.

Mid-Eastern Oil has been and is a double edged sword. Both the west and the mid east are being cut by opposite sides of the same sword. The west needed it to support it's machinery while protecting it's environment. The Mid-eastern economy is dependent on selling it to westerners as it has become the primary source of income for them. The Mideast depends on the west as much as the west has depended on the mideast. Right now, it is being noticed that mid eastern oil was not as cheap as was believed. I doubt if there will be very much more western production of Mideastern Oil reserves. The cost of drilling and shipping is no longer cost effective. For the past few weeks the American oil companies have been depending on American produced petroleum and we are now seeing that gasoline has dropped nearly a dollar a gallon around the country. I suspect the American public is going to want the oil companies to maintain these lower prices and it can not be done with imported oil.