I See you all woner wat sins are unforgiven to your God? I am new to the muslim faith and i dont ever intend to follow it. I am a firm believer in Christ Jesus, and that he was the son of God and the saviour to all men.
Im sure most of you know the basis of christianity, we believe our God is the true living God as do you, and that our God is all perfect and sinless, that he cannot look upon sin, guess what man sinned! Oh no boy are we in trouble? going agaisnt an all mighty God who quite frankly, alough he is loving and merciful, has to punish. But God said to himself, i dont want to punish them because they fall, so he sent Jesus Christ, his only begotten son (John 3:16), that whoever believed in his name, should not perish but have everlasting life.
Now this makes sense to me, but this is not why i choose to follow christ, i like the story of superman but i dnt follow him, i decided to follow christ when he called me and i felt that supernatural feeling as accepting him as my lord and saviour and the son of God, Now any1 can say what they want about God or Jesus, about if they exsist, or who they really were, but no1 can ever take away the feelings and emotions Jesus has given me over my time as a christian, no1 can take away my testimony.
So anyway back to the point, if a man rapes a woman, shud the court say, ""there is no punishment for this crime if u say u will repent from it"" no! thats not acceptable, the man should be punished. So what i am asking is, does allah punish sin? if he does, we are all in big trouble and hes not a merciful God, but if he doesnt, ow can a God so good look upon unclean souls as us men? Jesus paid the punishment, My God loves me, and every1 of you, despite what u believe, forgive me for preaching. Take care! :-)
And also could u post some verses about pauls teachings being different to Jesus', Could you make an example mate?
I just came across this and if you want to see a few examples of Paul's teachings differing from that of Jesus, pbuh, you can go to this thread, post number 25, as it has been discussed already:
Now if u dont get what was ment by my statement how can u say it was meant to offend
ARE U SEEING HOW WRONG THAT SOUNDS????
I am saying, that the part about the sunday church thing was maybe seen as offending, Not by me, I didnt say it was but I was saying maybe it was something to do with that that people saw offensive, even though I dont know what it means.
So I dont think it sounds wrong what I said.
The path is long but I hope we meet,
After the grave and the Day, in paradise in bliss upon a reclined seat.
A traveler traveling - travelled from shirk to tawheed,
If I'm remembered for anything - let it be the Mercy I seek.
I See you all woner wat sins are unforgiven to your God? I am new to the muslim faith and i dont ever intend to follow it. I am a firm believer in Christ Jesus, and that he was the son of God and the saviour to all men.
Im sure most of you know the basis of christianity, we believe our God is the true living God as do you, and that our God is all perfect and sinless, that he cannot look upon sin, guess what man sinned! Oh no boy are we in trouble? going agaisnt an all mighty God who quite frankly, alough he is loving and merciful, has to punish. But God said to himself, i dont want to punish them because they fall, so he sent Jesus Christ, his only begotten son (John 3:16), that whoever believed in his name, should not perish but have everlasting life.
Now this makes sense to me, but this is not why i choose to follow christ, i like the story of superman but i dnt follow him, i decided to follow christ when he called me and i felt that supernatural feeling as accepting him as my lord and saviour and the son of God, Now any1 can say what they want about God or Jesus, about if they exsist, or who they really were, but no1 can ever take away the feelings and emotions Jesus has given me over my time as a christian, no1 can take away my testimony.
So anyway back to the point, if a man rapes a woman, shud the court say, ""there is no punishment for this crime if u say u will repent from it"" no! thats not acceptable, the man should be punished. So what i am asking is, does allah punish sin? if he does, we are all in big trouble and hes not a merciful God, but if he doesnt, ow can a God so good look upon unclean souls as us men? Jesus paid the punishment, My God loves me, and every1 of you, despite what u believe, forgive me for preaching. Take care! :-)
bismillah
greetings, 4CA
Number one. I will not delve into a debate about salvation. And to speak of Christianity as it alleviates one's spirit. That is futile, solely because a non-believer in Christianity cannot feel it. You can not preach on an emotional basis.
Number two. If one commits a crime and they are punished in this world and do not repent they will recieve in the hereafter what they have sown in this worldy life. Allaah (ta'ala) is the most merciful, He provides for the Muslims, Christians, Jews, Hindus, etc. Is your reasoning of God superior to the reasoning of others? No it is not.
No person will bear the burden of another is what it says in the Book of Ezekiel. According to the Jewish Bible, and the Qur'an is explicit on the purity and essence of God and the deeds we do. We will answer for them and those who disbelieve, if it is Allaah (swt) will be in the hellfire.
Muslims, believe that their were original messages that were given to all the prophets (pbut) of all nations. Some came with merely oral messages, others came with books. The Jewish Bible as we have today as well as the NT are not considered the pure revelations they once were. They were filtered through the minds of men. Thus if it contains the prejudices and thoughts of man, it is not perfect, it is not a Holy revelation from the Most High.
You must understand that whatever contradicts the message of the Qur'an is to be rejected in its entirety. Me personally, I study the NT and the Pentatech to understand the beliefs of my brothers. However, Muslims refer only to the Qur'an. We hear and we obey, there is no guidance better that the guidance of Allaah (ta'ala) and HIS final messenger Muhammad ibn Abdullah (saw).
However, the point is there are arguments in which we can dispute, in your own book...the Bible. The point is why do you choose to complicate the simple message of God Almighty???
"Or do ye say that Abraham, Isma'il Isaac, Jacob and the Tribes were Jews or Christians? Say: Do ye know better than allah. Ah! who is more unjust than those who conceal the testimony they have from allah. but allah is not unmindful of what ye do!"
سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #140
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