Questions directed to atheists and agnostics only

**Hemoo** · 03-19-2007

i have some questions to the atheists and agnostics and i hope you all reply honestly and clearly

I want this question to be answered only by atheists and agnostics

Are you atheists and agnostics are happy in your lives ?

Okay, what is your main purpose in life (honestly) ?

You will say my purpose is to enjoy it ,so don’t you ever get bored?

Have you ever thought of committing suicide?

that's it for now and i am waiting to see your responses

and thanks in advance for answering

**Pygoscelis** · 03-19-2007

Originally Posted by hemoo

Are you atheists and agnostics are happy in your lives ?

I can only speak for myself, but I am quite happy in my life.

Okay, what is your main purpose in life (honestly) ?

Why must life have a "purpose"?

I suppose my main purpose for living is to enjoy life and help those I care about do likewise.

You will say my purpose is to enjoy it ,so don’t you ever get bored?

Do I ever get bored? Of course I do. Especially when locked in a seminar I'm not interested in. I'd rather be doing something else. I tend to daydream in such cases, caused by my boredom with the seminar.

Do you mean do I ever get bored with life in general? No. Life is too short to get bored with it. I'm only going to exist for a century at most. Now, if I had to edure an eternal afterlife, now THAT would get boring.

Have you ever thought of committing suicide?

No. Have you?

**Skavau** · 03-19-2007

Are you atheists and agnostics are happy in your lives ?

Yes.

Okay, what is your main purpose in life (honestly) ?

To live. To do things that I enjoy and to have a positive impact on this place we call home.

You will say my purpose is to enjoy it ,so don’t you ever get bored?

Yes I do get bored sometimes.

Have you ever thought of committing suicide?

No.

Your assumption is that all Atheists/Agnostics are depressed, am I right?

**snakelegs** · 03-19-2007

i have some questions to the atheists and agnostics and i hope you all reply honestly and clearly

I want this question to be answered only by atheists and agnostics

Are you atheists and agnostics are happy in your lives ?

yes. thankful too.

Okay, what is your main purpose in life (honestly) ?

i don't believe a purpose is necessary.

You will say my purpose is to enjoy it ,so don’t you ever get bored?

you see - i did not say my purpose is to enjoy it. of course i get bored once in a while - doesn't everybody?

Have you ever thought of committing suicide?
yes, but not since i was sick the last time and in unbearable pain. normally, i am grateful to be alive.

that's it for now and i am waiting to see your responses
and thanks in advance for answering

**wilberhum** · 03-20-2007

I’m happy with my life. I think life has been good to me.
I think the main purpose in life is to enjoy what god has given you while helping others and doing good.
Of course I have been bored, life is not always exciting.
I have never considered suicide as an option.

**Hemoo** · 03-20-2007

thank you all for your responces

no i have never thought of committing suicide

(besides islam says that who commits a suicide is a disbeliever and also we are forbidden to injure our selves because our bodies is like a deposit that Allah has gave us , i mean that our bodies is owned by Allah)

**Hemoo** · 03-20-2007

i have more questions :

what stops you from harming any one else ??

what stop you from stealing or killing others ?

is it the rules of law in your countries that make you don't do bad thing ?

or what ??

what if you live on an island and there is no laws ,what will motivate you to not oppress any one else ?

EDIT : and what if you can do whatever you want to do even if it hurts others and you are sure that you can get away with it , so what will stop you from doing all that you desire even if it is wrong ?

**Pygoscelis** · 03-20-2007

Originally Posted by hemoo

what stops you from harming any one else ??
what stop you from stealing or killing others ?
is it the rules of law in your countries that make you don't do bad thing ?
or what ??

You may find it suprising, but I refrain from killing and maiming and raping random passerbys mostly for the same reasons you do: Human empathy and the desire to live in a society without such behaviour.

Imagine for a moment if you suddenly discovered that Allah doesn't exist. Imagine no God looking down on you. In such circumstance, would you suddenly start killing and stealing? I don't think you would. And if you examine why, you'll see why atheists avoid such behaviour.

It is actually religion that is often used to rationalize socially destructive behaviours (like hate, murder, bigotry, etc) that we would otherwise know are not good.

**Joe98** · 03-20-2007

Originally Posted by hemoo

Are you atheists and agnostics are happy in your lives ?

Very happy

Originally Posted by hemoo

Okay, what is your main purpose in life (honestly)

To visit every place on the planet, meet the people and to go hiking, cycling and skiing there

Originally Posted by hemoo

don’t you ever get bored?

No, there are too many places.

Originally Posted by hemoo

Have you ever thought of committing suicide?

No. Do you often have suicidal thoughts?

Originally Posted by hemoo

what stops you from harming any one else ??

I was brought up as a nice person

Originally Posted by hemoo

what if you live on an island and there is no laws ,what will motivate you to not oppress any one else

The evil atheistic philosophy of common sense.

People must work together to survive.

Originally Posted by hemoo

and what if you can do whatever you want to do even if it hurts others and you are sure that you can get away with it , so what will stop you from doing all that you desire even if it is wrong ?

The evil atheistic philosophy of selfishness.

Ultimately I am better off by being nice to people instead of being nasty.

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**snakelegs** · 03-20-2007

what stops you from harming any one else ??

self-preservation - i don't do anything to others that i wouldn't want them to do to me.

what stop you from stealing or killing others ?

same as above

is it the rules of law in your countries that make you don't do bad thing ?

no, because of above

or what ??

see above

what if you live on an island and there is no laws ,what will motivate you to not oppress any one else ?

same as above

EDIT : and what if you can do whatever you want to do even if it hurts others and you are sure that you can get away with it , so what will stop you from doing all that you desire even if it is wrong ?

same as above

hemoo, let me ask you:
if you were not afraid of allah would you:
harm some one else?
steal or kill people?
do bad things if there weren't any laws?
if there were no laws, would you oppress others?
what would keep you from doing whatever you want, even if it hurts others, if you can get away with it?

**Hemoo** · 03-20-2007

well if there where no god is a false assumption but i will say that :

i think that i would'nt kill any one .. i may have made adultry and then leave the girl with her pregnant child ,you know why because i have taken what i want and now i don't want to take the responsibilities for this action and so on...

but i am talking about lesser things .

you said i don't do anything to others that i wouldn't want them to do to me.

but this principle means that you know that there is a pay back
and i will ask you what if no one can harm you ,what if you where a president with a lot of guards ????.

then you can do whatever you want and you know that no one can get to you

there must be a supreme creator that you know that you can never be more powerfull than he is , then this is the real deterrent for you and for every kind of mentality (or psyche)

and finally thanks all for your responses

talk to you later ...

**Kittygyal** · 03-20-2007

Salamualikum
Okay am no Atheist nor an Agnostics am a muslim alhamdulilah, but ''hemoo'' may i ask are you doing some kinda poll or something or do you want to how different people say about there selfs just kinda curious

Ma'assalama

**Hemoo** · 03-20-2007

well i am basicly seeking to know how does atheist and agnostics think ??

its like saying "what where you people thinking when you choose this way of life?"

**Kittygyal** · 03-20-2007

salam
^ ah seen no worries bro gud luck

&& RESPECT to all me non-muslims
Ma'assalama

**Pygoscelis** · 03-20-2007

Originally Posted by hemoo

i think that i would'nt kill any one .. i may have made adultry and then leave the girl with her pregnant child ,you know why because i have taken what i want and now i don't want to take the responsibilities for this action and so on...

How very selfish of you. Are you sure you'd do that? I wouldn't, and haven't. Many other non-believers wouldn't and haven't. There is something called taking responsibility for your actions. It lets you mintain your self respect.

If you pledge yourself to another person and promise not to have sex with anybody else, that's a vow, a personal guarantee and to break it isn't right. Since you married your spouse you probably love them, and wouldn't want to hurt them, so why would you sleep around? And if you fathered a child and then abandoned them, could you really live with that? I doubt it. I bet empathy and guilt would kick in and you'd help the kid.

but this principle means that you know that there is a pay back
and i will ask you what if no one can harm you ,what if you where a president with a lot of guards ????.

Yes, laws and payback enforce our behaviours (note this works for both good and bad behaviour). But only a sociopath does good only because it is rewarded and bad is punished. The rest of us act on empathy and responsibility. These are not religious concepts. Religions sometimes cloud them though.

**wilberhum** · 03-20-2007

The current questions are based on the common concept that you need to follow a god image to have morals because morals come from god. In fact if you lookup morals in the dictionary, religion/god is not even mentioned. There is a basic desire in most people to live in harmony and do/be good. The main reason I try to be good is because it feels good. When I do bad things, I feel bad. When I do good things, I feel good. I don't think of god or heaven's reward when I do good. If an afterlife reward or punishment is the reason that a person is good, they are missing a lot out of live.

**Pygoscelis** · 03-20-2007

If somebody actually does good only for extrinsic reward and avoids bad only for extrinsic punishment, they are a sociopath, and should probably be removed from society, as it is only a matter of time before they do something horrible.

**IbnAbdulHakim** · 03-20-2007

Peace,

No offence to the non-muslims, but i find it very hard to believe non-muslims, its just after all that sinning you say how you wouldnt commit this sin and that sin, what value do your words have? Im sorry... i just feel that way

**Pygoscelis** · 03-20-2007

Originally Posted by IbnAbdulHakim

Peace,

No offence to the non-muslims, but i find it very hard to believe non-muslims, its just after all that sinning you say how you wouldnt commit this sin and that sin, what value do your words have? Im sorry... i just feel that way

That's ok. Your bigotry desn't bother me. But I do recognize it for what it is.

**snakelegs** · 03-20-2007

Originally Posted by hemoo

well if there where no god is a false assumption but i will say that :

i think that i would'nt kill any one .. i may have made adultry and then leave the girl with her pregnant child ,you know why because i have taken what i want and now i don't want to take the responsibilities for this action and so on...

well, if your fear of god causes you to be responsible - good that you have it. otherwise you would be an untrustworthy human beings.

but i am talking about lesser things .

you said i don't do anything to others that i wouldn't want them to do to me.

but this principle means that you know that there is a pay back
and i will ask you what if no one can harm you ,what if you where a president with a lot of guards ????.

then you can do whatever you want and you know that no one can get to you

it has nothing to do with "payback". it has to do with preserving my sense of self as a decent human being.

there must be a supreme creator that you know that you can never be more powerfull than he is , then this is the real deterrent for you and for every kind of mentality (or psyche)

i do believe in god. for the vast majority of my life, i didn't have any belief, one way or the other. i am basically the same person now that i believe in god, as i was before. i don't act any different or behave any better.
wilberhum expressed my feelings very well when he wrote

"There is a basic desire in most people to live in harmony and do/be good. The main reason I try to be good is because it feels good. When I do bad things, I feel bad. When I do good things, I feel good."

i couldn't say it better.

talk to you later ...[/QUOTE]