I know women CAN’T be leader of a country, soldiers and judges. I know the most important role is being a mother and wife.
I want to know whether CAN be something other than the OBVIOUS (medicine, teacher etc).
I am asking this because I come across another respected scholar cursing women that speak in lectures, give talks etc. He was answering a question from a fellow Muslim who asked him what he thoughts were about women that “acted” like men by giving lectures.
To be honest, I rolled my eyes at the question and the answer.
And also I have come across members in this group saying women HAVE to do jobs that are the obvious jobs otherwise she is committing a sin and leaving her home unnecessary! So those of you (sisters) that have their own business, scientists, cleaners, receptionists, mathematicians etc are committing a sin! You can’t even give a lecture either (btw you dont have to raise you voice or use soft voice to give a talk)?
Now I obviously think that it is wrong! Now why am I seeing more and more people that have this mentality? Don’t they look at the bigger picture and see the consequences? Most women that work in hospital and have business in Saudi and most Middle East countries are NON Muslims!
I am beginning to feel like a militant feminist lol
Abu Umamah Al-Bahili (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: The Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said,
"I guarantee a house in Jannah for one who gives up arguing, even if he is in the right; and I guarantee a home in the middle of Jannah for one who abandons lying even for the sake of fun; and I guarantee a house in the highest part of Jannahfor one who has good manners.''
subhanallah, you dont know his record! lol @ you support his racist attitude!
Salaam,
From my experience, most Pakistanis are racist. They wouldn't want their daughter to marry a Black or White Muslim man. However, they are fine to see their sons get married to a White Muslim lady. I don't think the Pakistanis that I know are intentionally racist, it is really bizarre.
Oh no, double standards!
I was looking at myself talking to myself and I realized this conversation...I was having with myself looking at myself was a conversation with myself that I needed to have with myself.
I was looking at myself talking to myself and I realized this conversation...I was having with myself looking at myself was a conversation with myself that I needed to have with myself.
From my experience, most Pakistanis are racist. They wouldn't want their daughter to marry a Black or White Muslim man. However, they are fine to see their sons get married to a White Muslim lady. I don't think the Pakistanis that I know are intentionally racist, it is really bizarre.
Oh no, double standards!
haha, you are guilty of being the same what you accuse others of. Yup, no one wants their daughter to go and suffer at the hands of unknown cultures, especially white cultures where promiscuity is commonly accepted, and rightly so. I aint sending my daughter into promiscuous cultures and those with similar values! And I'd ask you when you have daughters!
Help me to escape from this existence
I yearn for an answer... can you help me?
I'm drowning in a sea of abused visions and shattered dreams
In somnolent illusion... I'm paralyzed
Sweet106- Don't let your emotions take over, nor listen to wiswas of shaytaan also get rid of the feminist propaganda out of your head.
Both men and women are equal in islam, but have different roles to accomplish. When a couple is married, the husband needs to lead and his wife to follow. We men are made to lead, its in our nature. Women need to stay at home, raising up the kids, teaching them properly, while the husband takes care of the income. Women can have their jobs yes, but it can be in their homes or very nearby. Also they need to plan their schedule good how much they work, since she needs to have alot time to raise the children. Women only can go outside with Mahram and only that. Ofcourse there are exceptions. but i'm talking about the normal situation, if you understand me. Fitnah these days is over the top, and i really suggest women to pray for a good husband and stay home. A women's home is her masjid, its her place. Ofcourse she can be outside but with family or husband. Also she can teach her knowledge to other people inside home. This might be sound difficult but it isn't. your thoughts make it harder then it is.
Narrated Ibn 'Abbas: The Prophet said: "I was shown the Hell-fire and that the majority of its dwellers werewomen who were ungrateful." It was asked, "Do they disbelieve in Allah?" (or are they ungrateful to Allah?) He replied, "They are ungrateful to their husbands and are ungrateful for the favors and the good (charitable deeds) done to them. If you have always been good (benevolent) to one of them and then she sees something in you (not of her liking), she will say, 'I have never received any good from you." (Book #2, Hadith #28)
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I will not calm down until I will put one cheek of a tyrant on the ground and the other under my feet, and for the poor and weak, I will put my cheek on the ground. - Umar ibn khattab(Ra)
this thread will come back ontopic when cosmicintuition finally comes online... and makes the epic post to end all posts... that is, if the mods havent closed it by then... (don;t close it)
haha, you are guilty of being the same what you accuse others of. Yup, no one wants their daughter to go and suffer at the hands of unknown cultures, especially white cultures where promiscuity is commonly accepted, and rightly so. I aint sending my daughter into promiscuous cultures and those with similar values! And I'd ask you when you have daughters!
Salaam,
Are you saying all white people are promiscuous? What about white Muslims that have converted? If I had a daughter, she would marry a practicing Muslim man. If that Muslim man was white, that would be irrelevant. As long as he prays 5 times a day, fasts and is polite, that is fine.
I have a male relative who married a white Muslim women. They get along very well.
Sorry, you sound racist to me.
I was looking at myself talking to myself and I realized this conversation...I was having with myself looking at myself was a conversation with myself that I needed to have with myself.
Are you saying all white people are promiscuous? What about white Muslims that have converted? If I had a daughter, she would marry a practicing Muslim man. If that Muslim man was white, that would be irrelevant. As long as he prays 5 times a day, fasts and is polite, that is fine.
I have a male relative who married a white Muslim women. They get along very well.
Sorry, you sound racist to me.
I didnt say white ppl. I said white cultures. Yes, all cultures of white people are promiscuous on this earth. be it USA, Scandinavia or Australia. You find exceptions at individual levels.
almost all white females (from different cultures! from French to Italian to Irish) in my class dress with toned and tanned calves showing. Show me a white female from white culture in my class who dresses conservatively taking care of hayaa and modesty, I'd accept that I was wrong.
Last edited by CosmicPathos; 03-17-2012 at 10:26 PM.
Help me to escape from this existence
I yearn for an answer... can you help me?
I'm drowning in a sea of abused visions and shattered dreams
In somnolent illusion... I'm paralyzed
didnt answer the question on why you still in contact with someone who is not your wife.
does it bug you? What do you know of our situation? Are you jealous? because you sure do sound it... I pray Allah sends you a husband that will be of benefit to your life. How much benefit you will be to him?... well, Insha-Allah is all I can say.
As for CosmicIntuition? When she comes online - you're gonna wish you'd never started this thread... this is why I am not saying much. I am going to give you the opportunity to witness what a true partnership should be like. Something you may not have experienced in your own life. I feel sorry for you. May Allah put kindness and mercy in your heart.
Why would you label all whites as the same? I am aware now of a Pakistan Brother who is married but also has sex with Muslima in same Masjid. This sister is not white.
I didnt say white ppl. I said white cultures. Yes, all cultures of white people are promiscuous on this earth. be it USA, Scandinavia or Australia. You find exceptions at individual levels.
Salaam,
It sounds like broad generalisation. Where's your evidence?
I was looking at myself talking to myself and I realized this conversation...I was having with myself looking at myself was a conversation with myself that I needed to have with myself.
does it bug you? What do you know of our situation? Are you jealous? because you sure do sound it... I pray Allah sends you a husband that will be of benefit to your life. How much benefit you will be to him?... well, Insha-Allah is all I can say.
As for CosmicIntuition? When she comes online - you're gonna wish you'd never started this thread... this is why I am not saying much. I am going to give you the opportunity to witness what a true partnership should be like. Something you may not have experienced in your own life. I feel sorry for you. May Allah put kindness and mercy in your heart.
Scimi
I am shaking in my boots!
The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said: "Help your brother, whether he is an oppressor or he is an oppressed one.." [Bukhaari].
Given that the whole thing has veered wildly off-topic, and you as the thread starter feel the thread should be closed, I'm going to lock this thread. If you want it re-opened after a cleanup, PM myself or one of the other moderators for this section.
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