love marriages-your thoughts

Lol I have no idea what you just said. but okaaay :D


What's Hate then ?



* Philosophical mode : ON * :uhwhat
 
And how does that occur ?

and the opposite should be Extreme likeable ? so what does that mean ?

lol?
 
The Ruler said:
Due to some deed comitted maybe? Or perhaps something that was said? Some unwanted happening.
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but it doesn't have to be hatred , can love not also occur in those situations?



So... You're telling me love is extreme like? Wouldn't the opposite of hate just be no hate? Not necessarily love?
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no, no hate/no love, would be just ...neutral

WHAT the heck is love ? haha

I thought love was that someone realy likes a person.

Like Parent/child ...isnt that also love?
 
The Ruler said:
Hmmh? I believe it's the fantasy of a budding teen and the tale of a granny.
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I'm not directing this at you, but you reminded me of a quite a relevant quote from Ibn Jawzi. He said in 'dhamm ul-hawaa':
“If you haven’t loved passionately or known the meaning of desire then get up and eat hay for you are nothing but a donkey.”
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And again:
“You and the hard rock are equal.”
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:D

On a serious note, love is definitely real - and I'm talking not of the superficial kind, but the real deep one that settles in the chambers of the heart (it's called [شغف] shaghaf in Arabic, think Surah Yusuf). Allaah has mentioned love (mawaddah) in the Qur'aan as one of His Ayaat on par with the creation of the heavens and Earth. Not to mention that the Prophet (salalahu 'alayhi wa sallam) himself said he was filled with love for Khadijah (r.a.), the scholars refer to Aisha' r.a. as 'the Love of the Messenger (salalahu 'alayhi wa sallam)'. Nothing to be afraid of, nothing to be shy of, and it's not something 'uncool' or for 'weaker souls' etc. Seriously, how can it be any of that when it's not even within a person's control! It's from the perfection and completeness of a person that they love.
 
Güven said:
but it doesn't have to be hatred , can love not also occur in those situations?
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During some unwanted happening? I doubt it.

no, no hate/no love, would be just ...neutral
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Just because I don't hate everyone on this forum doesn't mean I love them, ne?

WHAT the heck is love ? haha
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What the heck, indeed.

I thought love was that someone realy likes a person.
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Is love synonymous with like?

Like Parent/child ...isnt that also love?
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Could be. Or maybe the word "love" is used just to describe the bond between a parent and a child.
 
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Abu Sayyad said:
I'm not directing this at you, but you reminded me of a quite a relevant quote from Ibn Jawzi. He said in 'dhamm ul-hawaa':
“If you haven’t loved passionately or known the meaning of desire then get up and eat hay for you are nothing but a donkey.” ​
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Well, if all were to experience love in a very short time, wouldn't love lose it's meaning? I know it wasn't directed at me, but I was just saying. =]

And again:
“You and the hard rock are equal.”
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:D
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I see. I like that.

On a serious note, love is definitely real - and I'm talking not of the superficial kind, but the real deep one that settles in the chambers of the heart (it's called [شغف] shaghaf in Arabic, think Surah Yusuf). Allaah has mentioned love (mawaddah) in the Qur'aan as one of His Ayaat on par with the creation of the heavens and Earth. Not to mention that the Prophet (salalahu 'alayhi wa sallam) himself said he was filled with love for Khadijah (r.a.).
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Hmmm~
 
Abu Sayyad said:
Can you elaborate?
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“If you haven’t loved passionately or known the meaning of desire..."

If kids too young begin to experience that (and what age is too young is completely subjective)... Then I do believe that love would lose its meaning. I think love isn't something one can experience over a small amount of time... It sets its foundation and gradually grows from there. It's like a seedling that cannot be appreciated unless it grows to its full height and bears its fruit. Now, if this seed was planted in unfertilised and realtively new soil low in nutrients, it wouldn't grow... Because the seed won't find what it requires there. Whereas plant it in a well fertilised land, and you'll see the results after a while.

Have I gone off in a tangent? Forgive me... I know what I'm trying to say but am having a difficult time explaining it, since I'm trying to see things from a point of view other than my own.
 
Güven said:
that's what I said ,you dont hate nor love so ...neutral ( or does it have another word for that :X )
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No, I'm quite certain it's neutral.

Yes :D
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Hmm? I always thought love was a more intense emotion. This is contradictory to what I said before, I know. But beliefs and knowledge are different.
 
Ameena* said:
:sl: Have you ever experienced love?
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Not that I know of. ^_^ Which is why I say it's surreal and doesn't exist. Because, to me, it doesn't exist as I've never experienced it.

Guu-chan, see? There are probably many many forms of love we're not familiar with. Masochism and sadism might also be considered forms of love. Albeit a little sickening. But I'm thinking anime/manga here. ^_^
 
LOL masochism ;D

yeh I was thinking the same , there are different forms of love.


so we go back to the original question:

What tha heck is love ?


Alots of complicated stuff...
 
The Ruler said:
Not that I know of. ^_^ Which is why I say it's surreal and doesn't exist. Because, to me, it doesn't exist as I've never experienced it
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Well that's flawed logic, just because you haven't experienced it you can't deduce that therefore it doesn't exist. Sometimes love even makes people do crazy things.
 
The Ruler said:
“If you haven’t loved passionately or known the meaning of desire..."

If kids too young begin to experience that (and what age is too young is completely subjective)... Then I do believe that love would lose its meaning. I think love isn't something one can experience over a small amount of time... It sets its foundation and gradually grows from there. It's like a seedling that cannot be appreciated unless it grows to its full height and bears its fruit. Now, if this seed was planted in unfertilised and realtively new soil low in nutrients, it wouldn't grow... Because the seed won't find what it requires there. Whereas plant it in a well fertilised land, and you'll see the results after a while.

Have I gone off in a tangent? Forgive me... I know what I'm trying to say but am having a difficult time explaining it, since I'm trying to see things from a point of view other than my own.
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I agree, which is why I made a point in saying: "On a serious note, love is definitely real - and I'm talking not of the superficial kind, but the real deep one that settles in the chambers of the heart..."

A lot of young people claim love, especially when love to them is through the lenses of dating and similar things. That's not love, that's them wanting to satisfy desires. I knew people back in the day that claimed to be in love with a new girl every other month! Obviously, that isn't love.

Yet, sometimes when it is actually true and is more than just lust, it can grow. If put into the context of marriage right from the start, it can grow well from there because it requires more than just telling the other person "I love you", it requires work and sacrifice and mercy. And that's where it goes from just lip-service to actual true selfless love for the other person. It's like a muscle, the more experience it's given, the stronger it gets.
 

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